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MINUTES
ARCADIA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
Tuesday, November 12, 1991
The Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia met in regular session on Tuesday, November 12, 1991, at 7:30
p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Arcadia City Hall, 240 West Huntington Drive, with Chairman Tom
Clark presiding.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: Commissioners Amato, Hedlund, Szany, Clark
ABSENT: Commissioner Daggett
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to excuse Commissioner
Daggett from tonight's meeting. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Amato, seconded by Commissioner Szany to read all resolutions by
title only and waive reading the full body of the resolution. The motion passed by voice vote with
none dissenting.
MINUTES
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Amato, seconded by Commissioner Szany to approve the Minutes of
October 15, 1991 as published. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
OTHERS ATTENDING:
Councilman George Fasching
City Attorney Michael Miller
Planning Director William Woolard
Assistant Planning Director Donna Butler
Senior Planner Corkran Nicholson
Assistant Planner James Kasama
Secretary Silva Vergel
The City Attorney announced that the City Charter requires that for any action to be adopted or approved a
majority of the entire membership must vote in favor of the particular motion. If the required three votes are
not obtained the motion would fail. If the required three votes are not obtained (1) an applicant may request
continuance and it is up to the Commission to decide whether or not they want to grant it; (2) the matter could
be heard and then deferred for final decision pending participation of the absent members as long as they
review the records of these proceedings which would be made available to them or (3) the matter could
simply go forward to the City Council.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING MP 91 -006
2050 Vista Ave.
Robert & Jacqueline Cooley,
property owners
Norma Iovine & Gina Chodos,
appellants, property owners of
2058 Vista Ave.
Consideration of an appeal of the Highland Home Owners
Association's Architectural Review Board's approval of a
1,689 sq. ft., second floor addition.
The staff report was presented.
In response to questions from the Commission, staff said that the existing house is 4,200 sq. ft. of living area
with a 500 sq. ft. 2-car garage. The proposed addition would increase the size of the house to approximately
6,000 sq. ft.
The public hearing was opened.
The appellants were not present at the hearing but had submitted a letter to the Planning Dept. in support of
their appeal.
Robert and Jacqueline Cooley, 2050 Vista Avenue, felt that the proposed addition is far better than the
original plan.
No one else spoke in favor of or in opposition to this item.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public hearing.
The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Szany said that he went to the area and noticed that out of 26 homes on the street, eight homes
were either 2 -story and /or split level. He thought that the proposed design was far better than the original
plan. He remarked that with the old proposal it looked like the house would tip over, since most of the
weight was towards the back of the house, but with the new proposal it is more evenly distributed.
Although the addition is larger than the original plan it is more in proportion.
Commissioner Hedlund stated that he also went to this area and felt that the design of the proposed
addition would be compatible with other homes in the neighborhood. He remarked that it would be an
appropriate improvement.
Commissioner Amato agreed and was pleased to see that the applicants had lowered the height of the
dwelling.
Chairman Clark noted that this was a good design and was compatible with the area.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Hedlund, seconded by Commissioner Szany to deny the appeal and
uphold the Highland HOA ARB approval.
ROLL CALL:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Amato, Hedlund, Szany, Clark
None
Commissioner Daggett
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Chairman Clark noted that there is a five working day appeal period after the adoption of the resolution.
PUBLIC HEARING MP 91-007
736 -738 Arcadia Ave.
Mario and Olga Duron
Consideration of modifications for a proposed 6 -unit
apartment building.
The staff report was presented and the public hearing was opened.
Mario Duron, 1222 Encinas Ave., La Habra Heights, said that they are in agreement with all of the
conditions in the staff report.
Ziyad Duron, 326 W. Point Dr., Claremont, remarked that the a/c units will be on the roof and since they will
be located in a recessed area it will not be visible from the street. In response to a question from Commissioner
Szany, Mr. Duron stated that the water heaters will be placed in the garage.
Commissioner Szany was concerned, since one of the requested modifications is to reduce the size of the garage
and with locating the water heater in the garage, that will make the garage even smaller.
Staff clarified that the length of the garage will be 25' and there will be ample room to put the water heater
in the corner of the garage.
Roy Link, 750 Arcadia Ave., thought that they should comply with Code and modifications should not be
granted, especially for the window seats which will encroach into the setback area.
In rebuttal Mr. Duron stated that the modification with regard to the architectural feature would permit a
minor encroachment into the front yard setback for the purpose of adding bay windows and a chimney to
enhance the appearance of the building. He noted that they do not intend to sell the units at this time and it
will be an apartment building .
Staff noted that if the bay windows were deleted, then the building would have a flat facade and would not
be aesthetically pleasing.
No one else spoke in favor or in opposition to this item.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Hedlund, by Commissioner Szany to close the public hearing. The
motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Amato was not in favor of granting of a modification to reduce the size of the garage.
Commissioner Hedlund stated that this is a unique situation.
Commissioner Szany was concerned with the density of the project.
Staff said that Code will permit 7 -units on the site and the applicants have proposed 6- units. There will be
a minor transition from the driveway to garage and it will have a typical driveway slope. Staff felt that
the request for the reduction of the width of each garage area and guest parking space by 1' is justified in
order to provide an interior stairwell entry from the driveway and parking area to the first floor of each
unit. Staff did not feel that the project is intrusive or offensive and remarked that both the single- family
and commercial zones require a 25' back out area and remarked that the back out area for this project meets
code requirements.
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MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Hedlund to approve MP 91 -007
subject to the conditions in the staff report.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato, Daggett, Hedlund, Szany, Clark
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Daggett
Chairman Clark noted that there is a five working day appeal period.
Chairman Clark abstained from this item, since he is employed by the parent company of the proposed
project.
It was noted that one public hearing will be held for items 4 and 5, since they are related.
PUBLIC HEARING CUP 91 -016
10 W. Live Oak Ave.
PacTel Cellular
Consideration of a conditional use permit and modifications
for an unmanned cellular telephone facility consisting of
electronic equipment housed within an existing commercial
manufacturing building and erection of a 50 foot high
monopole antennae structure.
PUBLIC HEARING V -91 -001 Consideration of a variance for a height of sixty -two (62)
10 W. Live Oak Ave. feet in lieu of fifty (50) feet for a monopole antennae
PacTel Cellular structure in a C -M (Commercial- Manufacturing) zone.
The staff report was presented and the public hearing was opened.
Larry Levine, PacTel Cellular, 3 Park Plaza, Irvine, said that with the expanded use of cellular phones more
and more sites are going to be required to serve their needs. In a heavily used area such as Beverly Hills, one
such site is needed per mile to accommodate the user, however, in this area there isn't that type of volume.
To illustrate the distance between each different site, Mr. Levine stated that PacTel's closest site to the
proposed location is at Live Oak and the 605 Freeway.
No one else spoke in favor of or in opposition to this item.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public hearing.
The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Amato felt that this is an ideal location.
Commissioner Szany thought this is the best location for this type of a use.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to approve CUP 91 -016
and V -91 -001 subject to the conditions in the staff report.
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ROLL CALL:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Amato, Szany, Hedlund
None
Commissioner Clark
Commissioner Daggett
Chairman Pro Tem Hedlund noted that there is a five working day appeal period after the adoption of the
resolution.
PUBLIC HEARING MP 91 -008
284 Arbolada Dr.
Mark J. Novell Construction, Inc. for
Dr. and Mrs. Dale
Consideration of modifications and an appeal of the
Santa Anita Oaks Homeowners Association's ARB's denial
of 6'-6" high fences, and, lamps on top of 5' -0" high pillars
also, a determination that construction of the pergola is
consistent with the approved design.
The staff report was presented.
In response to comments from the Commission, Mike Miller said that the Commission's findings and comments
were communicated to the applicant and if the applicant was dissatisfied with them, he had the
opportunity to appeal the conditions to the City Council.
Staff stated that the Modification Committee's decision was appealed to the Commission and the fence was
approved at a height of 4.6'. On September 24th, an inspection was made and determined that the front yard
side property line walls /fences exceed the height approved by MC 91 -005; that there were electrical stubs
installed at the tops of the pillars at the driveway rather than on the front and back sides; and, that the
architectural details of the pergola are significantly different from the plans approved. The contractor was
notified of these problems and of the process required to rectify the situation and plans were submitted to the
association which were subsequently denied. The construction is on the front property line and the only item
that may encroach would be the housing for gate opener and mailbox. Staff circulated pictures of the
construction.
Mr. Woolard said that the plans for the pergola in the packet are the copies of the original approved plans
and the plans should be compared to the pictures submitted by staff.
The public hearing was opened.
Mark Novell, 55 Auburn, Sierra Madre, the contractor of the project, remarked that the project has a very
nice yard and conforms with the area. The yard had a great deal of slope and in order to keep the fence
symmetrical, they followed the slope of the lot.
Chairman Clark said that the modification was for a 4.6' high wall and asked why the wall was higher.
Denise Smith, 39 E. Union St., #210, Pasadena, the designer of the project said that the problem that they
were faced with is that the property slopes from the north side to south, on the west there is 5.5% slope and
on the east side the property slopes 2.5 %. The property also slopes from west to east and is a problem. The
contractor was trying to deal with it in terms of making the fence match the existing site. According the Jim
Kasama of the Planning Dept., the fence looked fine and he could not see a problem with it. The west
property wall abuts against an existing 7.6' wall. Mr. Kasama was aware that they were trying to address
the slope issue and thought that it was acceptable.
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In response to a comment from Chairman Clark and Mr. Miller, Ms. Smith said that the wall was designed to
match the existing wall and Mr. Novell said that the area closest to street is 4.6'. The only area in question
would be against the existing fence which is closest to the house. He remarked that the wrought iron fence at
the east property line is higher and sits closer to the street than the one at Dr. Dale's house.
Ms. Smith said that the wall was designed to match the existing wall. If one stood at the street and looked
at the two walls, they would need to be the same height or it would look strange. Ms. Smith stated that
since the proposed light fixture was unavailable, the owner was able to find a different light which is a top
mount that subsequently changed the height. She submitted several pictures of similar lights on top of walls
which exceed their request. They are requesting to change the location of the light from the side to the top
and there are many examples within the association.
Mr. Novell said that since they knew they were going to line with the existing wall, he did not bother to
measure and built the wall to match the existing.
In regard to the pergola, Ms. Smith said that the reason it is different from what was submitted, is because it
matches columns that are installed on the porch and they were not able to get the columns in the dimensions
they needed. Porch columns are larger, since they are supporting something that is much taller and the
pergola is a much smaller dimension, otherwise it would be out of proportion and they were able to find a
manufacturer that could do both, make the larger size ones for the porch and also reduce down an exact
replica for the pergola entrance. The scroll work on the end of the pergola was modified to match the column,
since it needs to echo the curb of the column, and that is the only thing that is different on the pergola. The
decorative routing was omitted and the decorative scroll work at the end of each beam to match and reflect
the column it went in. She remarked that it is architecturally harmonious and matches the house. She
thought that it is a very aesthetically pleasing pergolla and is compatible with the house and is not
offensive. She stated that these are very fine tuned design details.
Commissioner Szany said that although the notches in the pergola are very minor, they began this project
with a compromise.
R. McMullen, 285 Arbolada, directly across the street from the proposed project. He said that the project is on
illuvial fan; that is the property behind him is higher than his property, his property slopes down to the
street and the Dale's property slopes down. When the construction was started by the contractor, a new
driveway was on the side where the 4.6' fence exists and considerable fill dirt was utilized in the front yard.
Large concrete block walls were placed at the house level to hide the dumpster. He remarked that in his
opinion, the contractor had control of the grade. The front wall exceeds 5' by approximately 2" to 3 ",
depending on how it is measured. He thought that the pergola exceeds 9'. He was in agreement with a letter
submitted by Mr. and Mrs. Lewis and objected to the request. He felt that there were some efforts to
circumvent the normal procedures. He stated that the construction is different from the plans that he has
seen and he was both concerned and troubled.
Geri Linnis Woodruff, 301 Arbolada, spoke against the request and stated that it is the contractor's,
designer's and owner's opinion that everything is in scale and improves the property and she did not share
that opinion. She thought that it is far too large of a scale for that property and said that they are
exceeding what is permitted. She said that three property owners on this block have remodeled their
garden within the past few years, all of which are in good taste and beautiful and none asked for a
modification. Another house in the area which is architecturaly similar to the Dale's home, has not needed
any modification to redo the yard. She thought that they should comply and that no modification should be
granted.
William Lewis, 300 Arbolada, said that the driveway pillars as they exist measure 5.4' from grade and if a
2' -10" fixture on top of it that will increase the height to 8.2'. He did not think that aesthetically the
pergola as it has been constructed was the way that it was represented in the original plans, it neither
complements the house nor the neighborhood. He was against the modification with raising the wall
height and said that they should comply with the 4.6' height which is more than adequate.
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Jack Lynch, 224 Hacienda Dr., member of the ARB which reviewed the plans, said that as members of the
ARB, it is frustrating when approvals are granted and the ultimate project is different than what was
approved. The ARB is sensitive to the owner's and neighbor's feelings and the aesthetics of the
neighborhood.
Warren Dale, 284 Arbolada, said that they tried to improve the appearance of their home which he
believed increases property values in the area. He thought the changes that are being discussed are minor
and asked for approval. He said that if their wall was restricted to 4.6' then his wall would be 1' over his
neighbor's driveway. He said that there has not been any grading and no fill dirt at the property. He said
that the wall will have wrought iron fence and they do not intend to block visibility.
Mr. McMullen said that he and his neighbor's were disgusted that they keep changing their plans and
wondered why they did not ask for what they needed from the beginning instead of going through all these
hearings. He was upset that they deviate from their plans.
No one else spoke in favor of or in opposition to this item.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public hearing.
The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Amato felt that they should comply with the original conditions and the contractor should
know that if the construction deviates from the plan then it is his responsibility to notify the City.
Commissioner Szany thought the builder should have been aware of the change and should have brought it
up to the City. With regard to the pergola, he said that the notches should be put in and the beams should
be set in to give a lower profile. He wondered if the wrought iron fence could be removed and to leave the
wall which would bring the wall into meeting almost all of the standards.
Commissioner Hedlund stated that he appreciated Commissioner Szany's attempts to a compromise but noted
that this was a very sensitive project and he was disappointed that it was built the way they felt it should
be constructed with no regard to the conditions set by the City or the neighbors and then blaming it on the
slope of the lot.
Chairman Clark agreed and said that there was a lot of opposition to this and a lot of compromises were
made and he did not consider these changes as minor. He felt that 3' on top of pillars would be significant
and resented the way the applicant handled the project. He was in agreement with Mr. Lynch and said that
both the ARB and the City should be made aware of any changes.
In response to Commissioner Szany's questions, Mr. Miller said that if the Commission denied the appeal
then they will have to comply with the original conditions and if they don't, they will face legal action.
Staff said that the denial of tonight's request would not rescind a prior approval. The only issue that may
arise could be the actual design of the resulting wall. Commissioner Szany suggested removing the wrought
iron wall to comply with Code, however, that would not be what the Modification Committee approved.
Mr. Miller remarked that the Commission should keep in mind that there is already an approved decision
that has been deviated from, thus the reason for tonight's meeting. If they were not pleased with the
conditions that were set, they could have appealed the decision but since no appeal was filed, then they
should comply. An alternative would need both the ARB's and City's approval.
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MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Hedlund, seconded by Commissioner Amato to deny MP 91-008 with
Findings D.1, D.2, D.3.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato, Hedlund, Szany, Clark
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Daggett
Chairman Clark noted that there is a five working day appeal period after the adoption of the resolution.
PUBLIC HEARING Z -91 -010
All properties identified in the attached
Exhibit "A"
Consideration of a zone change from R -1 7,500 (single -
family residential, with a minimum lot size of 7,500 sq.
ft.) to R -1 10,000. This proposal changes the required
minimum lot size for any new lot from 7,500 sq. ft. to
10,000 sq. ft.
This zone change affects new lots only. If this zone change
is approved, any new lot proposed in these areas must
comply with the minimum lot area of 10,000 sq. ft.
The staff report was presented and the public hearing was opened.
No one spoke in favor or in opposition to this item.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Amato, seconded by Commissioner Szany to close the public hearing.
The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to recommend approval of
Z -91 -010 to the City Council.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato, Hedlund, Szany, Clark
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Daggett
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
John Mclnereney, 2800 Warren Way, said that after attending tonight's meeting, he has come to the
conclusion that the City is doing a fine job in preserving the neighborhoods and was pleased to see the zone
change.
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RESOLUTION 1473
Mr. Woolard read the title of the resolutions.
A resolution granting CUP 91 -015 to operate a Karaoke
studio with on -site consumption of beer at 612 -614 E. Live
Oak Avenue.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to adopt Resolution 1473
and to formally affirm the decision of October 15, 1991 and the votes thereon.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato, Hedlund, Szany, Clark
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Daggett
Chairman Clark noted there is a five working day appeal period.
MATTERS FROM COUNCIL None
MA'1 "1'ERS FROM COMMISSION
Commissioner Amato felt that the Commission handled tonight's meeting very well.
MA'T'ERS FROM STAFF
Mr. Woolard informed the Commission of the Council's action of the proposed ordinance regarding tree
preservation. It was noted that the matter has been continued for further review and that only oak trees will
be addressed in the new ordinance.
ADJOURNMENT
9:20 p.m.
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Secretary, Arcadia Planning Commission
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