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CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ARCADIA
and the
ARCADIA REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 1, 1984
The City Council of the, City of Arcadia and the Arcadia Redevelopment
Agency met in a regular session Tuesday, May 1, 1984 at 7:30 p.m.
in the City Hall Council Chambers.
Rev. Timothy Rawle, Holy Angels Catholic Church
Council Member Mary Young
PRESENT: Council Members Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and Hannah
ABSENT: None
On MOTION by Councilman Pellegrino, seconded by Councilman Lojeski
and carried, the Minutes of the Adjourned and Reoular Meetings of
April 3, 1984 were APPROVED on roll call vote as follows:
AYES:
NONES:
ABSTAIN :
Councilmen Lojeski, Pellegrino, Lojeski
None
Newly elected Council Members Gilb and Young
On MOTION by Councilman Pelleqrino, seconded by Councilman Lojeski
and carried, the minutes of the Adjourned and Regular Meetings of
April 17, 1984 were APPROVED as corrected and carried on unanimous
ro 11 ca 11 vote.
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It was MOVED by Councilman Pellegrino, seconded by Councilman
Gilb and CARRIED that all ordinances and resolutions be read by
,title only.
PRt.SENTATlONS
On behalf of the City Council, Councilman Lojeski presented plaques
to the Presidents of PTAs from Arcadia Schools and thanked them for
their dedication in contributing tremendous numbers of hours for the
benefit of the students, teachers and schools, i.e., Baldwin Stocker
6,585 hours; Camino Grove 5,780 hours; Highland Oaks 7,423 hours;
Holly Avenue 4,001 hours; Hugo Reid 6,500 hours; Longley Way 4,010
hours; Dana 4,100 hours; First Avenue 3,600 hours; Foothills 3,865
hours; Arcadia High 8,879 hours; and Arcadia Council 2,126 hours.
On behalf of the City Council, Mayor Hannah presented Certificates
of Achievement to the First Avenue Junior High School Band,' Tall
Flags and Drill Team Band Director, Don Jones. The band and teams
had appeared on national television on April 21, 1984'at a local
Dodoer Baseball game.
Mr. Michael Morphy of the Los Angeles Olympic Organizing Committee
vi presented to the City of Arcadia the official flag of the Committee.
He stated that the flag is being presented to all of the venue cities
and that he was deliohted to be able to be at the Council Meetino at
this time to present 'the flag on behalf of the Olympic Committee:
He also stated that there would be no cost to the Citizens of Arcadia.
Consideration of Text Amendment 84-2, to amend Section 9267.1 of the
Arcadia Municipal Code relating to the review and approval procedures
for land uses and developments in the M-2 (Heavy Manufacturing) Zone
under the conditional use permit process rather than the variance
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(ORDINANCE
TO BE
PREPARED)
2.
3.
3a.
ROLL CALL
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APPROVAL
Hannah
Excused
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TARGET
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process which the courts have found not be be appropriate. A Negative
Declaration has been prepared.
Mayor Hannah declared the hearing open and no one desiring to be heard
the hearing was CLOSED on r10TION by Councilman Gilb, seconded by
Councilman Lojeski and carried. It was further MOVED by Councilman
Gilb, seconded by Councilman Lojeski and carried on roll call vote
as follows that the Negative Declaration be APPROVED and FILED and
find that the project will not have a significant effect on the en-
vironment and that the City Attorney be directed to prepare the
appropriate ordinance for introduction.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Council Members Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young, Hannah
None
None
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Council recessed in order to act as the
ARCADIA REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
PRESENT: Agency Members Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young, Hannah
ABSENT: None
On MOTION by Member Lojeski, seconded by Member Pellegrino and carried
the Minutes of the regular meeting of April 3 were APPROVED. Abstaining
were Memoers Gilb and Young as they were not on the Agency at that time.
On MOTION by Member Lojeski, seconded by Member Pellegrino,and carried
the minutes of the regular meeting of April 17 were APPROVED on unam-
imous vote.
Due to a conflict of interest on the subject to be discussed Chairman
Hannah was excused. Member Pellegrino presided over this portion of
the meeting.
Proposal for Exclusive Right to Negotiate with Beck & Associates for
the Huntington/Third site. Prior to hearing from said company staff
commented in part that the owner of the Derby Restaurant (Mr. Sturniola)
had requested if this development proceeds the parking lot to the east
of his restaurant be traded for Agency owned land to the north of the
restaurant incorporated into the entire development. Staff will work
with Beck & Associates on arranging this. Staff also advised that
'Mr. Bong has not responded to letters submitted to him and referred
to a communication from Mr. Bong this date indicating that he is
desirous of imprOVing his property into a commercial development -
- that this is the first staff has been aware of this. Staff recom-
mended that this proposal be denied.
Staff then referred to financial analysts Katz Hollis Coren. One of
the major components of this ERN is the financial analysis by a 1
financial consultant who will look at estimates of costs and revenues
to both Beck and the Agency with report to be submitted to the Agency....
Katz Hollis Coren will also assist in the negotiations of any dispo-
sition agreement with Beck. The staff report dated May 1, 1984 states
that the developer will pay the followin~:
1. $10,000 to the Agency for a Negotiation Fee to cover staff ad-
ministrative ~rocessing costs... this fee is non-refundable unless
the Agency does not approve the ERN... the fee is not applicable
to the purchase price.
2. Up to $15,000 for the preparation of an Environmental Impact Report.
3. Up to $10,000 for a financial analysis of possible short and long- .
term costs and revenues to the City and Agency from such a development.
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This analysis will be done by Katz Hollis Coren who will be under
contract to the Agency. The Agency will pay any costs above $10,090
(the analysis is estimated to cost $8,000.)
4. All planning and building fees, as well as costs for other special
reports, analyses. or surveys as may reasonably be required.
5. As further evidence of Developer's financial commitment to this
development, Beck will provide to the Agency a copy of their Option
Agreement with Arcadia Datsun.
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6. The Developer shall during the ERN period provide a detailed
development schedule, statement of users/tenants as known, information
on properties he is acquiring in the site, including a copy of any
preliminary title reports, land surveys, preliminary soil reports on
his land and on City/Agency owned land as well. He will provide a
Letter of Intent between the Derby Restaurant and Beck providing for
reciorocal parking easements, and will make written progress reports
at the eighth and sixteenth weeks of the ERN. He will provide finan-
cial materials and development information sufficient to establish
his capacity to complete this project,
7. The Agency shall request that the Planning Commission and City
Council favorably consider the Land Use Element and Zoning Ordinance
amendments which will permit a retail commercial development on the
site. This initial recommendation shall not precommit any entity to
a particular decision or course of action,
8. The Purchase Price for the Agency-owned land shall be negotiated
during the ERN based upon several factors set forth in Section 301.
A new paragraph has been added reflecting the Agency's concern ex-
pressed April 24 at the Workstudy meeting regarding any previous
discussions or understandings as to a possible sales price.
9. The ERN is for a period of 24 weeks (approximately 5! months) -
May 1, 1984 to October 16, 1984. Before the end of this period, in
addition to the above cited documents, reports, etc. which are to be
prepared, the Developer shall provide to the Agency the signed Dispo-
sition and Development Agreement and a Good Faith Deposit, the amount
of which is to be negotiated during the ERN. He will cooperate with
the Agency and Council on the required Public Hearing.
ihe following discussion ensued:
BECKNER
~1r. Cha i rman and Members of the Agency, my name if Russ Beckner,
Vice President of Dean A. Beck and Associates of Los Angeles, Calif.
I just have a few remarks, but prior to that I would like to introduce
to you the President of Dean A. Beck and Associates. ~1r. Tony Beck.
ihank you, Russ. Members of the Council, Members of the Staff and
Mr. Mayor, pro tem: It's a privilege to be here. I'm not going to
take any time because I think you know the situation and we're here
to answer any questions you might have. I do want to pledge to you
that if we have the privilege of an opportunity to move forward and
plan this development with the staff, we'll do our utmost to take into
account the needs and desires and wishes of the community. Thank you
very much.
TONY BECK
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RUSS BECKNER Last week I had an opportunity to talk with you briefly about the
project. One thing in hindsight that I overlooked which I think.
although not directly to the issue of rarget, concerns Target and
Dayton Hudson and I think that it is information that would be of
interest to you. This came about by one of the questions that was
asked, "how was Target different?" I think I replied in a number of
areas where they were different from other stores that might be
grouped into being similar. But one thing that I think makes them
extremely distinctive which was not pointed out is a policy that has
been in effect for 37 years by the Dayton Hudson Corporation and that
policy is that each year they - the operating divisions of Dayton Hud-
son - place into the Dayton Hudson Foundation 5% of their pre-tax
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RUSS BECKNER
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LOJESKI
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profits. These monies then are distributed, after requests have been
made, to worthy oraanizations in the communities in which they operate.
I have and will enter this to the staff, the Dayton Hudson Foundations's
1982 annual report as well as the Tarqet Store~' 1982 report on their
involvement in communities and I would encourage the members of the
Agency to review this information, but in essence, the 1983 report is
not out yet, in 1983 Dayton Hudson Corporation contributed in excess
of $22,000.000 back into the communities in which they operate. Since
Target was not operating in Southern California in 1982, I just want
to read off a few of the types of organizations so you can get a flavor
as to what this means to the community. In Colorado - and these are
just a few and these are all listed by dollar amounts, etc. in this
report - but in Colorado, for example, they contributed to the 80ys'
Club of Denver; they contributed to the Children's ~useum of Denver; I',
the Colorado Council on the Arts; the Colorado Dane Festival; the Den-
ver Center for the Performing Arts. [n Indiana, the Children's Museum
Guild; the Evansville Civic Center; the Greater Lafayette Museum of
Art. [n Minnesota, the Boys' and Girls' Club of Duluth; St. Louis
County Heritage and Art Center. I could go on because there is a sub-
stantial amount of money and a substantial amount of organizations.
The point. [ think, of this is twofold: One is we wanted, and Target
requested that I make you aware of this program. But [ think the more
important issue is that it indicated - I don't know of any other de-
partment store, individually or a chain, that has this kind of a
program. To me it indicates a degree of sensitivity to the community
in which they operate. They do not take the position that they are a
store where your citizens come, spend their money. They feel that
there should be a direct involvement and when we talk about issues
such as was brought up last week about architectural - about noise,
possible, from the TPA, they asked me to express directly to you that
they are sensitive to the community's desires, not only after they are
a member of your community, but before they are a member of your com-
minity. So [ would like to give these to Mr. Kinnahan and they will
be available. If additional copies are required, I will be happy to
give them to you. If you have any questions, we will be happy ta
answer them. Otherwise, I appreciate the opportunity to appear be-
fore you toniqht.
Mr. Beckner, you gave us some hypothetical projections a week ago of
sales. Can you relate that in relationship to this 5% pre-tax profits
into the Foundation - can you roughly give me a dollar amount?
I can't because I don't know what their pre-tax profit is on that
volume; those projections were from Target and they were the projections
that their market research people had developed to determine whether or
not the site was the site that they were interested in. I can not re-
late that for you back to dollars for the City. I can say to you that
those monies are available, but I can not give you a specific answer
as to what....
We're talking $50 or $5,000 or $50,000 - we really have no idea what
we are talking about - is that right? I was just trying to get a
handle on what dollar amount we are looking at. With many foundations
there are restrictions in regards to, for example, giving that money
to educational entities. Are there any suSh restrictions?
Not that 1 am aware of. As I say, the report is very inclusive about
what they can do and 1 did notice running through there that they make -
it appeared to me that they did make some contributions to educational
involved types of organizations, but I, did not frankly see one where
it was directly to a specific school. I did notice, however, that in \
a couple of incidences, it appeared that they had funded a school activ-
ity; sometimes that appeared to be where the school had some kind of
fund raising endeavor - maybe through the PTA or some other organization.
That they had assisted in the endeavor which was creating the money.
I also noticed that they were involved in Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts,
and often times those are through the schools.
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That's my only question.
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I guess my only answer to you in regards to 'what does that mean to
Arcadia would be that $22,000,000, and that is the Dayton Hudson Corp.
is a sizeable amount of money. As I said initially, I don't know any
other organization, retail organization, that does anything like ~his.
I am sure there are sommunity involvements, but this is a ~rogram that
has been in effect for 37 years.
Since this is the second Council meeting for new members, I have a
question that bothers me and I know that in the ERN agreement it says
that we will receive a financial statement down the road. Along with
that I would prefer the financial statement earlier than that and also
I have not had any references as to your other projects.
I can appreciate that. We have no objections whatsoever and we fully
anticipate that in the fulfillment of your obligations you will want
to know the answers to both of those questions. We are a private
company, consequently we do not just arbitrarily hand out the infor-
mation. We have discussed this with Mr. Kinnahan and Mr. Watts and
we are perfectly happy to show you not only our individual and com-
pany achievements in this area. I think, in fact, we are required to
go back ten years which is a substantial length of time, and addition-
ally, we are more than happy to provide you with the references as
well as proof, whether it be in terms of financial statements or
lenders' statements, that we are financially capable of doing this.
It's a very leqitimate concern and it is in process.
Mr. Beckner, the first time I saw this project was last week and I
voiced to you at that time some of my opinions - some of my concerns.
I have to say, for me personally, that] have nothing against Target
or Dayton Hudson or whatever, but when you join this community, you
are going to be here forever, we hope. This is a decision that really
is somethinq that you just don't run into and for me to tell you my
concerns after the horse has run around the track is not, I don't
think, fair to you. So I have to tell you some of them... I'm not
overly thrilled with the layout and I told the rest of the Council.
It's going to cut off the hotel completely from ever expanding. It's
going to limit their parking completely. Whether there could be some
other confiquration or not, I don't know. Now I have to understand
and you understand that you have gone to a lot of problems with this
thing so far, but we were in an election and Council people come with
the territory - sometimes you like it and sometimes you don't but that's
the way it is. I would like to see if there is any way that a new lay-
out could be made, whereas maybe-and I'm visualizing this - that the
store could be up against the wash - I'm really concerned about the
hotel being crammed in - sure they'll use your parking lot - sure the
Sturniola's will use your parking lot and there will be some of that
concern. That has one concern for me and I understand that Datsun -
the Lowes - are very concerned with getting this project going. We're
concerned with doing something with it, too, but we're - and I might
do differently if I were sitting down there with my own dough, but
here I'm spending the taxpayer's money and it's a little different -
in fact, it's a lot different. I may take a shot, but I may be a
little more careful with someone else's future. This piece of property
is a very valuable piece of property. We all understand that. I'm not
as concerned about the quality of your store as some other people might
be because I think probably it is a first rate organization. The thing
about the Foundation sounds like the list of people who send to me
wanting money. It seems like they got you on the same mailing lists
they have me on and telling us about - all due respect - the money that
you give these communities maybe in Denver, Colorado, but you're sitting
in the middle of Sierra Madre, Monrovia, San Gabriel, Alhambra, Azusa,
Cucomonga, so this money might have to be spread among all of those
communities. That is exemplary, but as far as I am concerned and I asked
that it be put in the DDA, I think it is called, that when we get to
the end of the road, we are going to have to come to an agreement on
what the land is going to cost and I felt it was only fair to you that
you would not assume from this Council giving you approval on this
project, it was a flat twelve bucks and that we would sell you down the
river later on by saying "why didn't you tell me to begin with?" I
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don't know what the numbers are going to be and I have enough respect
for your company ;and for the people who are doing the financial
analysis to say, OIOk, let's get started and see where we goOl. I, per-
sonally, will meet you half way on any project, but I want you to know
I'm not prejudging this thing and saying I'm going to vote that, that's
what the price is going to be - I don't know what the price is going
to be. You don't either.
I'd like to respond to two or three things, Councilman Gilb. First
as it relates to layout, I believe that the ERN that has been pre-
sented for your consideration covers virtually every condition that
could be covered in the development of this project includinq the
issue of site planning. I went on record last week as saying as re-
lated to the hotel that we would certainly discuss this matter with
the staff, I think one thing - and you're being candid with me - I
need to be candid with you - I don't think it is probable or reason-
able regardless of what the price of the land is that we end up
acquiring - through the Agency or throuoh the owners - that there be
unrestricted use by a hotel without some financial consideration.
What I'm saying is that we are buying land to provide parking for
stores and if we don't have enough parking for the stores we intend
to build, that decreases the number of stores and that, in turn, would
have to be offset in some other way. I can say this to you, that we
are not presuming anything. I think I even made the statement that
if it could all be worked out to everyone's satisfaction, the concept
of having a multi-use, unrestricted type of development had some
merit. So we will work with the management of the hotel group as well
as your own City staff to see if we can come up with some plan that
makes any more sense than the one we have. As it relates to the cost
of the land, I was perfectly happy when Mr. Kinnahan called and said
you wanted the additional lanauage because we never for a moment
assumed that we were anywhere close to a point where you were prepared
to commit - nor are we - so I think I asked Pete - I said, 'that's a
great idea' - I don't know who suggested it, would you put in a little
disclaimer for us, too - we don't have all the facts yet - that nothing
that we have said is indicative of a cost or price of land. So I think
that you have to be satisfied at a point in time. Our only request is
that we believe that the ERN is the mechanism to answer the questions
as to the cost, as to the uses, as to the parking, as to the site plan-
ning, as to the architectural look to it. We would hope that six
months from now we will be able to come back to you, that Katz Hollis
will have done their work, that we and the staff will have negotiated
a development aqreement, that they're satisfied with, and that we're
satisfied with, hopefully that you will be satisfied with. We want to
keep in close touch with you, the decision makers. In fact, we did
ask, as Pete mentioned, that eight weeks down the road we would like
to have the opportunity to come back and say look this is where we are
now. We want your input, we want to know how you feel - are we on the
right track or the wrong track. We, too, don't want to get six months
down the line and walk in here and find out that something that could
have been resolved sixty days from now has somehow blotched the deal.
So, we are sympathetic with the concern about becoming involved in the
project; that, hopefully we will be around for a long time. We pledge,
as Mr. Beck said, to work with your staff in trying to come up with
something that makes financial sense to everyone concerned. And past
that, I really can't make more conclusive.....
I appreciate your candor. If when you go out into the field, you have
consideration for the hotel and maybe working out some type of - I
understand that we are not going to hold property thinking that they
may come in later and maybe want it - that's not the way the game is
played - if they want to play that qame, they can put up the money
now. I understand that, but I just wanted an understanding as far as,
I am concerned, as to how I think this thing is supposed to be played
and if I'm wrong I want to know.
I don't see anything wrong. We, hopefully, will prova tonight - we will
commence neaotiations on the site plan, on the hotel issue that you
bring up, Katz Hollis will be movino ahead on the fiscal report. I
think all of these things can work concurrently. I think you have a
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very clear perspective of what we are trying to do.
Thank you. I have no other questions.
We spent some staff time in communicating with the owneres of the
various properties in that Third Avenue area. We got responses, as
you mentioned, from Mr. Bong and Mr. Sturniola. At any'time, did we
communicate with the hotel people at all in regard to them looking
at this and maybe comino in with an additional information?
Yes. We have talked verbally with Mr. Joe Harris of Hometels re-
garding his opinion regarding this development and he has indicated
basically a neutral comment. Neither pro nor against, but he does
feel that it is an improvement to the area.
Ok, the second question: What happens with the Wildan Study report?
When will that be coming to us?
The first draft is due - it has been received by staff and will be
available very shortly to the Council. I believe the next one - and
I will ask Mr. Woolard - is about three months away.
Will this report address this situation - this development - in re-
lationship to the parking and all that sort of thing? Regarding
Mr. Gilb's concerns along with mine?
The phase one report which we received addresses what is there now.
The second phase which comes in three months addresses what can be or
should be and it will go into the proposals that have been made, i.e.,
the Beck proposal and the Hometels proposal and it will touch upon all
the issues a study is supposed to touch upon, land use, marketing,
streetscape, public improvements, etc.
Is it conceivable that this report could come in and say that this is
not the development for that area?
It's conceivable. If they analyze it in a neutral fashion, objectively,
it's possible that this would be the case. They might come in and say
that a commercial development'is not possible. I would doubt it, but
it's possible. f1r. Woolard, did you want to make any comments?
I don't think that the report coming from Wildan would be that specific.
I think it will show what the general area would support in the way of
commercial office uses, that sort of thing, but I don't think it's going
to focus in on the relationship between this particular proposed devel-
opment to the hotel or other uses of it and the parkina situation. I
think that mioht be somethina that minht be more specifically addressed
in an environmental document.
I've got one little housekeeping question and that is - where the re-
port states that the developer will pay the following: up to $15,000
for the cost of an EIR. What is the normal cost of an EIR?
$3,000 to $12,000 - for this particular project, you could probably
get one for let's say $6,000.
If it happens to go over $15,000, then we pay.....
I'm pretty confident that ;you could get a qualified consultant....
Mr. Falzone's is around $10,000.
That wasn't a number that we negotiated - it was a number that Pete
felt comfortable with - would cover the cost. There was no question
about it.
My concern is also for leeway in the layout of this site plan - the
design - for circulation problems - traffic problems - parking problems.
That's where my chief concerns lie.
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I said I wasn't going to say anything - I am very sensitive to Council-
man Gilb'~ and Councilman Lojeski's questions about the layout of the
project. I've been involved in many, many projects, that I felt com-
fortable with. I can guarantee that we will work very, very closely
with your people to bring to you the best project for that area and
incorporatino the needs and desires of the hotel - the best that can
be accomplished. There is something that has synergism of this pro-
ject between the hotel and ourselves and what we are trying to do.
If we don't,lay out this project so that it not only is the best
esthetically, but is the best as far as bringing people - customers -
to the project, the City of Arcadia. as well as ourselves, won't
prosper as we hope to do, So you can rest assured that we will pay the
utmost attention to everything and if there is any way that we can in-
corporate a different plan, a better plan, it certainly will be con-
sidered.
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I have concerns like Councilman's Gilb's, but we have not discussed the
closing of that street and that bothers me. I can appreciate that it's
more land, but the flow of tr~ffic and all - closinn that street - 1
find of oreat concern.
In our discussions to date with the staff, Mrs. Young, we recognize
that that is an issue and I would recommend that we discuss going very
quickly to a traffic study to determine what the impact is. We rec-
ognize Santa Clara is not a major street, but it is certainly a street
that carries traffic and we have designed the site to maximize the
retail potential which translates to tax dollars, but on the other
hand, I would wholeheartedly agree that we need to get a traffic study
very quickly to determine the impact on the surrounding area. So you've
got no objection from us on finding out - we don't know. Based on the
information we have, it seems like a viable thing to do, but we are
perfectly willing as a part of the EIR to go to a traffic study on
this.
Maybe it just needs to be relocated.
That's Possible.
Any other questions?
Mr. Mayor, I'd like to meet somebody from Katz Hollis - are they here?
I just like to know who we are talking to. May I have your name,
please?
Larry Arceneaux. I am a principal with Katz Hollis Coren and Associ-
ates.
Are you the gentleman who will be working on this project?
I will be the principal in charge.
See I don't know how you work - if you work like attorneys - we meet
the chief and then we get all the Indians down the road - I want to
know who is going to be on top of this job.
I'll be on top of it, but there's a lot of Indian work.
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And what is your name, please?
Larry Arceneaux.
Larry, could you tell us what your duties are, what your job is in
the project for a matter of record?
Our firm is financial consultant to a large number of development
agencies in California and the other western states. Our primary
work is concerned with determining the feasibility of public sector
involvement in developments like the one being proposed by Beck &
Associates. In doing that we analyze the types of revenues that are
generated by a particular development, the types of mechanism available
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to a public agency for participation in the development. the timin~
of the incurring of costs and the realization of revenue and try to
come up with networks that tie all those things together. That's
what we will be doing generally.
Following the discussion it was MOVED by Member Gilb. seconded by
Member Lojeski and carried on roll call vote as follows that the
Agency reject the proposal of Mr. Bong. set forth in his letter of
March 29 and April 23, 1984; that the Agency approve the Exclusive
Right to Negotiate (ERN) with Beck & Associates and that the Agency
approve the Aoreement for financial services with Katz Hollis Coren
and authorize the Executive Director to execute and implement same.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Members Gilb, Lojeski, Younq, Pellegrino
None
Member Hannah (excused from this discussion)
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5.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
Jlmes Plotkin, 1312 S. Baldwin, property and store owner of this
address, representative of the West Arcadia Business and Professional
Association spoke to a parking problem on the East side of Baldwin
Avenue in the business section. The parking spaces they do have are
interspaced with four or five feet of red, separating the parking
spaces. This results, at times, in drivers parking a few inches
in the red and when the customer leaves the store he, of course.
receives a parking citation. This means, in all probability, that
the customer will not return to his store. He said that the Associa-
tion is doing all it can, through advertising, to bring people into
West Arcadia to shop, but finding parking spaces is becoming in-
creasingly difficult. He asked Council for some assistance in this
regard. Mayor Hannah said, in part, that the Council is sympathetic
to the problem and asked the staff to look into this and report back
to Council at the next meeting -- May 15, 1984.
Herb Fletcher. 175 W. Lemon suggested that now that there is a new
Council, each of them draw a number from one to five which would
represent different districts of the City. That Council Person
then would not represent that district, but would be semi-responsible
for that particular district. In other words, he or she would
become an expert on the needs and the problems in that area. He
felt that this would make a Council Person more aware and that the
residents would feel that their particular area would have more
representation in the community even though the Council Person
would not be actually representing that district alone.
Johanna Hofer, 875 Monte Verde Drive. In response to Mrs. Hofer's
inquiry about information about a new civic center, she was advised
that study sessions have been held and study sessions will be held
in the future on whether or not to have the new center or just build
a new facility for the Police Department. Mrs. Hofer was advised
that any information on this subject could he obtained from staff
and that it was reported in the paper..... that with the exception
of the recent study session, no meeting had been held on this since
last June. Mrs. Hofer felt that this information could have been
helpful to the candidates in the recent Councilmanic election.
,Mrs. Hofer said that the residents are still paying the utility
bill taxes; the library services have been reduced; the schools
are without a policeman on campus since passag~ of the Proposition
Thirteen and because of these conditions, the plans for a' new
civic center should, she felt, be brought to the voters for a
chance to vote on them. She suggested presentation to the electorate
at the school board election of 1985.
In connection with her reference to funding for a multi-purpose
senior citizens' center from the Department of Health and Human
Services, the City Manager advised, in part, that he had researched
that possibility and found that there were no monies a'vailab1e
through that program for a senior citizens' center.
~oge~ Nemraba, 1648 Highland Oaks Drive, was advised that the
eso ution No. 5171 which comes before Council this date relates
to a 24-10t hillside subdivision located North of the Whispering
Pines Development and only accepts th~ Environmental Impact Report
which does not, in any way, approve the project. Following the
adoption of this resolution, there will be a public hearing
before the Planning Commission and the City Council. Mr.
Nemraba was also advised to make certain that he receives notices
of these hearings and that he should leave his name with the
Planning Department for this purpose.
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6a.-6b. 1.
HEARINGS
SCHEDULED
(May IS, 1984)
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6c.
PARCEL MAP
84-4
(TENTATIVE)
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6d.
PARCEL MAP
O' 84-5
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6e.
UTILITY
? EASEMENT
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CONTRACT
AWARD (TCE/
PCE REMOVAL
PLANT) 1
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ADMISSION TAX
WAIVER If
(ARCADIA \ \
MUSIC CLUB)
16h.
'LEAVE \.J
WILLIAM '\ \'\
HOBBS 'V
(APPROVED )
6i.
WEED ABATE-
MENT AGREE-
MENT L.A.Co.
(RENEWAL)
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CONSENT ITEMS
Consideration of Tentative Map 42668 for a proposed 10-
unit residential condominium project at 1039 - 1049
West Fairview Avenue.
2. Consideration of Tentative Map 43268 for a proposed 20-
unit residential condominium project at 309 - 315 East
California Street.
APPROVED the Tentative Parcel Map 84-4 subject to the following:
Find that the proposed project together with the provision
for its design and improvement is consistent with the General
Plan and that the discharge of sewage from the subdivision
into the public sewer system will not violate requirements
prescribed by the State Regional Water Quality Control Board;
that the Negative Declaration be approved and filed and the
project will not have a significant effect on the environment;
that the prOject be approved subject to the conditions of
approval set forth in the staff report; and that the Director
of Public Works be authorized to execute the subdivision agreement.
APPROVED the Tentative Parcel Map 84-5 for a 3-unit condonimium
at 1006 N. First Avenue, subject to all conditions and that the
Director of Public Works be AUTHORIZED to execute the subdivision
aqreemnt.
AUTHORIZED the Mayor and City Clerk to siqn the necessary documents
in connection with the request of the Southern California Edison
Company for an easement from the American Red Cross for purposes
of installino and maintaining underground power cables for the
new building. This is necessary inasmuch as the land is owned by
the City.
AWARDED the contract for the TCEIPCE removal plant for Longden
Wells Nos. 1 and 2 to the low bidder. Vido Samarzich, in the amount
of $174.000, that all informalities or irregularities in the bids
or bidding process be waived and that the Mayor and City Clerk be
AUTHORIZED to execute the contract in form approved by the City
Attorney; that $192,500 be appropriated from the Water Fund to
cover the cost of inspection, contingencies, the contract amount
as well as some repiping work to be done by City forces and that
the Negative Declaration be approved and filed. , . finding that
the project will not have a significant effect on the environment.
APPROVED the request of the Arcadia Music Club for waiver of
Admission Tax for the Santa Anita National Horse Show to be held
from June 21 through July 8. 1984.
APPROVED the request of William Hobbs, Dispatcher with the Fire
Department for a 90-day leave of absence without pay from April 11
through July 11, 1984.
APPROVED the renewal of the Weed Abate~ent Agreement with Los
Angeles County for a period of five years beginning July 1, 1984
tDrough June 30, 1989. It was noted that the existing agreement
is scheduled to expire June 30, 1984 and that the County Agricultural
Commissioner for Weed Abatement works within the City as directed
by the Fire Department.
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7a.
AGREEMENT
I FOR LABOR
RELATIONS
CONSULTANT
(APPROVED)
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INFLUENCE
8.
8a.
RESOLUTION
NO. 5171
(ADOPTED)
(TRACT 42936)
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EQUIPMENT
LOAN
AGREEMENT
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THE ABOVE CONSENT ITEMS WERE APPROVED ON MOTION BY COUNCILMAN
LOJESKI AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN PELLEGRINO AND CARRIED ON ROLL
CALL VOTE AS FOLLOWS:
AYES: Counci1 Members Gi1b, Lojeski, Pel1egr'ino, Young, and
Hannah
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
C!TY MANAGER
Staff advised that the current agreement with Liebert, Cassidy
and Frierson, Labor Relations Consultant, expired at the end of
March and recommended that a new agreement be approved for twelve
months of services beginning Apri1 1. 1984. The consultant fee
would remain the same for this period and their fee for represent-
ing the City at administrative hearings and court proceedings will
also remain the same. There are no other changes in the proposed
agreement. Some discussion held on the increases in fees'in the
past seven years and staff noted that the consultant was not used
very often on the per year basis unless there was a disciplinary
hearing or must go to court on ,a matter.
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IT WAS MOVED BY COUNCILMAN GILB, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN PELLEGRINO
AND CARRIED ON ROLL CALL VOTE AS FOLLOWS THAT THE AGREEMENT BE
APPROVED.
AYES: Counci1 Members Gi1b, Lojeski, Pel1egrino, Young and
Hannah
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Council received staff report indicating that the LAFCO will soon
conduct public hearings to consider spheres of influence for the
City of Arcadia and the City of Monrovia involving an unincorporated
territory roughly South of Live Oak Avenue between Santa Anita Wash
and Mayflower Avenue. Based on the reports from the Director of
Public Works, the Water Department and the Fire Department, it was
MOVED by Councilman Pellegrino, SECONDED by Councilwoman Young that
staff advise the LAFCO that the City of Arcadia is not interested
in having this area within its sphere of influence. It was CARRIED
on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Council Members Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and
Hannah
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
CITY ATTORNEY
Resolution No. 5171, adopting as the Lead Agency the Final
Environmental Impact Report for the 24-10t hillside subdivision
(R.M. 83-1 and Tentative Map 42936) located north of the Whispering
Pines development and certifying its preparation in compliance with
the California Environmental Quality Act, State Guidelines and City
of Arcadia rules implementing the same.
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It was MOVED to APPROVE by Councilman Lojeski and SECONDED by
Councilman Pellegrino and CARRIED on'ro11 call vote as follows:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Council Members Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and Hannah
None
None
The City Attorney explained that this Defense Department Equipment
Loan Agreement refers to Olympic activities in Arcadia. It basically
makes the City responsible for the equipment while in the City's
possession and control. It wil1 be used primari1y by the Police
Department. This is a standard agreement that all the venue cities
will be asked to sign in order to receive said equipment.
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(L. & ANN
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DENIED
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It was MOVED to APPROVE by Councilman Lojeski and SECONDED by
Councilwoman Young and CARRIED on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Council Members Gilb. Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and
Hannah
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
On recommendation of the City Attorney the claim of Lawrencp Murphy
and Ann Murphy was DENIED on MOTION by Councilman Gilb, SECONDED
by Councilman Pellegrino and CARRIED on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Council Members Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and
Hannah
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
On recommendation of the City Attorney the claim of Genaro,
Sandra and Ann Marie Montanino was DENIED on MOTION by Councilman
Lojeski, SECONDED by Councilwoman Young and CARRIED on roll call
vote as follows:
AYES: Council Members Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and
Hannah
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Considered together because involved same incident.
On recommendation of the City Attorney the claim of D. Tibi
and the claim of G. Fontaine were DENIED on MOTION by Council-
man Pellegrino, SECONDED by Councilman Lojeski and CARRIED on
roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Council Members Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and
Hannah
NOES: None
ABSENT: None '
On recommendation of the City Attorney the claim of Richard Poff
was DENIED on MOTION by Councilman Gilb, SECONDED by Councilman
Lojeski and CARRIED on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Council Members Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and
Hannah
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MATTERS FROM STAFF
MATTERS FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS
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BUSINESS ()e)/In response to Councilman Lojeski's inquiry concerning the reduction
LICENSE / \\ or waiving of the business license fees for filming at the County
FEES lr . Arboretum, staff will prepare a report for Counc il 's cons i derat ion
(FILMING at the next regular meeting.
AT COUNTY
ARBORETUM)
MEMOR rut,
(EDWARD
PASSMORE)
Councilman Gilb MOVED to adjourn the meeting in memory of
Edward Passmore who passed away April. 18. He was 45 years old.
He suffered a massive coronary while on the Colorado River. He
was a resident of Arcadia for 16 years and was a statistical planner
for Transamerica Insurance Company. He was a member of the First
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MEMORIUM
(EDWARD
PASSMORE)
(cont'd)
ADJOURNMENT
May 15, 1984
ATTEST:
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Church of the Nazarene in Pasadena. a Board Member of Parent Alert.
Community Hot Line, former President of Santa Anita Rancho
Homeowners' Association and was active in Little League and
Foothill Boosters organizations. Mr. Passmore was born in
San Francisco. He attended school in Beirut, Lebanon, where
his father was with Aramco. He graduated from use with a degree
in public administration. He was a navigator in the Air Force
in the Vietnam War. He is survived by his wife, Sharon, his
children. Ronald Edward, Gregg Stanley and Darin Roger all of
Arcadia. and his parents William Edward and Marian P. Passmore
of Sun Lakes, AZ.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p. m. to 7:30 p. m. May 15. 1984.
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Mayor
City Clerk
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