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INVOCATION:
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
MINUTE
APPROVAL
PROCEDURAL
ORDINANCE
WAIVED
TOWA CORP.
Santa Ani ta
Plaza
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GROUP W
CABLE TV
HEARING
'CLOSED
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M I NUT E S
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ARCADIA
and the
ARCADIA REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
REGULAR MEETI NG
FEBRUARY 15, 1983
The City Council of the City of Arcadia and the Arcadia Redevelopment
Agency met in a regular session Tuesday, February 15, 1983, 7:30 p.m.
in the City Hall Council Chambers.
Reverend Alfred Carter, Christian Center of Arcadia
City Attorney, Michael H. Miller
PRESENT: Councilmen/Members Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
ABSENT: None
The minutes of the adjourned and regular meetings of Febr~~!y 1, 1983
were APPROVED as corrected, on MOTION by Councilman lOJeski, seconded
by Councilman Dring and carried 'unanimously.
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In order to take the fo110Win9 item, it was MOVED by Councilman Lojeski,
seconded by Councilman Haltom and carried on roll call vote as follows
that the provisions of the Procedural Ordinance be waived.
AYES : Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
Rod Gunn, Financial Consultant retained for the proposed Santa Anita
,Plaza to be located at 130 W. Huntington Dr., Arcadia (formerly
Ramada Inn) presented the current status of this matter; stated in
part that the City under Charter powers would issue the bonds. Proceeds
would be deposited with the Wells Fargo Bank; the bank would, in turn,
use the funds to make a loan to the Towa Corporation for the develop-
ment of the proposed hotel. The bonds would carry a dO,uble "A" rating.
He noted conditions which would have to be corrected before the bank
would approve it as a real estate package. Towa Corporation has
retained 0'Me1veny & Myers to work with the property owner on restruc-
turing the ground lease. Mr. Gunn stated further in part that the new
financial statement is more comprehensive. This statement will be
furnished the Council; also information on Robert Blumin, who has
recently entered the picture; and a projected schedule for the develop-
ment which was originally being proposed for the Olympics in 1984.
This is a continued public hearing on the Cable Television Franchise
with Group W. Staff recommended that the hearing be closed at this
meeting and reopened at such time as Council desires to proceed with
the granting or denial of the franchise. Staff requested that they
be authorized to pursue negotiations with the company in an effort
to resolve any differences in the draft cable ordinance. Due to the"
length of the consideration, A TRANSCRIPT HAS BEEN PREPARED AND IS
INCORPORATED HEREIN BY REFERENCE.
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Appeal
Modification
2321 S. Sixth
APPROVED
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Other than the Council Members and staff, speaking to the matter
were:
Rusty Faust, General Manager, Group W Cable, Inc.
John Merritt, District Manager for Group W Cable, Inc.
Laudel1 Ludwig, 1085 Singing Wood Drive, Arcadia
Perry Cope, 1231 San Carlos Road, Arcadia
The hearing was CLOSED on MOTION by Councilman Dring, seconded by
Councilman Haltom and carried unanimously.
It was then MOVED by Councilman Dring, seconded by Councilman Haltom
that the Draft Cable TV Franchise be presented to Group W for its I
review and comments; that Council also review it, and that Council
move under the general guidelines so that an acceptable agreement may
be reached as soon as possible in order for Group W to proceed in
building South Arcadia in an expedient manner, per the City's require-
ments.
Councilman Hannah stated in part that he would like to see Group W
comply with the terms of its contract and then he would talk about
changing it. ... he would not do that until such time as they do
what they said they were going to do ... that until such time, staff
should not have to waste their time drawing up new agreements.
Councilman Lojeski stated in part that when things are sent back for
review, it seems to take months.... He could not understand why, if
the pole rights have been negotiated, Group W cannot proceed. He did
not want to consider changing the time.... He wants a better contract
for the City and for cable television.... He felt it is about time
for the City to put its foot down and tell Group W how they are going
to operate.
Roll call vote was then taken on the MOTION:
AYES
NOES
ABSENT:
Counc il men
Councilman
None
Dring, Haltom, Pellegrino
Hannah, Lojeski
(Please refer to transcript)
Appeal from the decision of the Planning Commission in its denial of a
modification application relating to 2321 South Sixth Avenue. The
Commission had determined the masonry wall may be retained at 6 ft.
along the north and south sides of the property but the fence must be
at a maximum of 5' 9" on the east (front) side of the property.
Mayor Pellegrino declared the hearing open and the applicant, Ramiro
Rodrigues, asked Council to permit him to keep the fence across the
front of his property at a maximum of 6' 0" in order for the wrought,
iron to be higher than the pillars - thus keeping the arch effect all
around the property. No one else desiring to be heard, the hearing was I
CLOSED on MOTION by Councilman Dring, seconded by Councilman Lojeski,
and ca rri ed.
During the ensuing discussion Councilman Haltom said in part he could
not support the request ... the applicant had been advised on what he
could and could not do and he went ahead with the construction .., that
he was in violation of the Code ... knowingly. Councilman Haltom then
MOVED for denial of the request. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Councilman Lojeski submitted that, based on what the applicant stated
in his letter of appeal, he MOVED that the request be granted for the
6 ft. maximum fence on the east (front) side of the house with the
pillars at 5 ft. 9" ... the fencing would then be 6 ft. all around.
MOTION seconded by Councilman Dring. Councilman Hannah said in part
that he agreed with Councilman Haltom that violators of the Code should
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CARS PA~KED
ILLEGALLY
Sixth Avenue
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TEXT AMENDMENT
83-1
APPROVED
(Ordinance
Forthcoming)
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PROCEDURAL
ORDINANCE
WAIVED
,
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OCCUPANCY
435 E. Li ve Oa k
18 months
APPROVED ON
FEB. 1, 1983
(Per Conditions)
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CDBG
PROGRAM
(Report to
be prepared)
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be made aware of that fact; however, he would vote in favor of the
appeal inasmuch as in this case, it is only a matter of 3 inches
difference. Roll call vote was then taken on the MOTION:
AYES
NOES
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
Councilman Haltom
None
Just prior to the above item being considered, Councilman Haltom had
advised staff that as he traverses Sixth Avenue on a dai1y basis he
notices many vehicles parked illegally... on lawns and the like.
Staff will check into this. '
'Planning Commission Resolution No. 1218 recommending approval of Text
Amendment 83-1 which would amend the Arcadia Municipal Code by adding
Section 9600 setting forth provisions for City Council appeals to
decisions and determinations of the Planning Commission.
Mayor Pellegrino declared the hearing open and no one desiring to be
heard, the hearing was CLOSED on MOTION by Councilman Dring, seconded
by Councilman Lojeski and carried. It was further MOVED by Councilman
Dring, seconded by Councilman Lojeski and carried on roll call vote as
follows, that the Negative Declaration be approved and filed and find
that the project will not have a significant effect on the environment
and that the City Attorney be directed to prepare the appropriate
ordinance to effect this amendment.
AYES
NOES
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
None
None
In order to take the following item out of agenda sequence, it was
MOVED by Councilman Dring, seconded by Councilman Lojeski and carried
on roll call vote as follows that the provisions of the Procedural
Ordinance be WAIVED.
AYES
NOES
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
None
None
Discussion held on the request of J'?rry Furrey, 655 Berkshire Av',.,
La Canada, for permission to use a portion of his apartment complex
at 435 E. Live Oak Ave. as an occup1ncy unit for a period of 18 months.
It was noted that on February 1 thi5 request was approved and carried
on d vote of 3 to 2 to permit such occupancy, providing Mr. Furrey
complied completely with all conditions imposed lY the various City
Departments.... This was for an 18-month period only, and its use
would not be for relatives. Staff was to take steps to ensure this
use. Mr. Furrey presented himself to Council and said he would comply
with all conditions. It was noted that the parking had been resolved.
Councilman Lojeski said in part he was still opposed to this and would
adhere to his "no" vote. He felt it was in total violation of th'?
Code. Counci1man Hannah had made a MOTION to reconsider this matter
but withdrew the MOTION. I
NO ACTION TAKEN ON THIS MATTER IN VIEW OF THE MOTION OF FEBRUARY 1.
This hearing was scheduled to obtain views of citizens on the community
development and housing needs. The City had received information from
the Los Angeles County Department of Community Development which
indicated that the City's estimated allocation 'for 1983-84 would be
$258,066. By May 1983 Council will be required to determine the
specific program for submission to the County with detailed descriptions
and dollar amounts.
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HEARING
WEED ABATEMENT
(To proceed)
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ROLL CALL
MINUTE
APPROVAL
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ADJOURNED TO
FEB. 16
6:30 p.m.
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HEARINGS
SCHEDULED
MARCH 1
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Mayor Pellegrino declared the hearing open and no one desiring to'be
heard, the hearing was CLOSED on MOTION by Councilman Lojeski, seconded
by Councilman Dring and carried. Council reviewed staff's report
including a recap of the City's participation in the program ,and a
statement of community development objectives. Staff received Council's
list and will prepare a subsequent report for Council.
This was the time and place for hearing objections from any and all
property-owners to the proposed removal of weeds, refuse and other
flammable material. The County Agricultural Commissioner mailed the
appropriate notice of this hearing to all property-owners as required.
Mayor Pellegrino declared the hearing open and no one desiring to be'
heard, the hearing was CLOSED on MOTION by Councilman Lojeski, seconded
by Councilman Dring and carried. It was further MOVED by Councilman I
Lojeski, seconded by Councilman Dring and carried on roll call vote as
follows that the Los Angeles County Agricultural Commissioner be directed
to abate the nuisance by having weeds, rubbish and refuse removed from
the parcels listed in Resolution No. 5085.
AYES
NOES
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
None
None
Council recessed in order to act as the
ARCADIA REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
PRESENT: Members Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
ABSENT: None
On MOTION by Member Hannah, seconded by Member Haltom and carried, the
minutes of the joint meeting of the City Council and Arcadia Redevelopment
Agency of February 1, 1983 were APPROVED.
The meeting ADJOURNED to 6:30 p.m. Wednesday, February 16, 1983 in the
Conference Room.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
Arthur Moulton, 1223 Golden West Avenue, was advised to contact Police
Captain Neal Johnson on the morrow concerning the impoundment of his
automobil e.
Gerrald Garrigan, 1384 Brixton Road, Pasadena, said in part that he was
late in paying his business license fee but that he was penalized to
the extent of $200 - that his license fee annually is only $25; that
he felt the penalty fee excessive ... although he recognized that some
penalty was in order. He was advised that this matter is to be con-
sidered by Council later at this meeting. '
Pat Gayer, 905 South First Avenue, also referred to the $200 penalty fee
for those who paid their business license fee late... the penalty fee
is almost unheard of.
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CONSENT ITEMS
SCHEDULED public hearings for March 1 on the proposed Tentative Map of
Tract No. 38964 for a 9-unit residential condominium and on Planning
Commission Resolution No. 1219 concerning zone change for 1231 Golden
West Avenue.
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SUBSTANDARD APPROVED substandard lot width of 74.56 feet in lieu of 75.00 feet
lOT WIDT~ required for 315 East Camino Real. This is in connection with the
PARCEL MAP realignment of lot lines at 1521 South Fourth Avenue and 315 East
83-2 Camino Real.
ANIMAL
CONTROL
AGREEMENT
REVISED
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TELEPHONE
SYSTEM
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DIAL-A-RIDE
CONSULTANT
AGREEMENT
APPROVED
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WAIVER OF
'FORMAL
REQUIREMENT
(Bleacher cover)
CONTRACT
RATIFIED
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APPROVED and AUTHORIZED the Mayor and City Clerk to execute a revised
Animal Control Service Agreement with los Angeles County in ,form
approved by the City Attorney. The Agreement has been revised to
include provisions which require the City to reimburse the County for
services provided which exceed the amount of animal license revenue
generated to the City. Reimbursements would be effective for the cur-
rent fiscal year and the new Agreement has been extended to expire
June 30, 1987.
DIRECTED staff to prepare for Council's approval, requests for proposals
from telecommunication consultants for assistance in procuring a tele~
phone system for all City facilities. Staff will discuss this with the
School District.
ALL OF THE ABOVE CONSENT ITEMS WERE APPROVED ON MOTION BY COUNCILMAN
DRING, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HALTOM AND CARRIED ON ROLL CALL VOTE AS
FOLLOWS:
AYES
NOES :
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
None
None
Council recei~ed and reviewed a Proposal and Services Agreement from
Daniel Benson, of Daniel Benson and Associates, for providing services
for the 1983 calendar year. It is similar to the prior Agreement except
that it reflects the completion of increased Los Angeles County
Transportation Commission reporting requirements.... It also does not
include, provisions for the special projects (Proposition "A" implementa-
tion plan and a cost allocating plan) which were included in the prior
Agreement.
Discussion ensued and staff said in part that it has been satisfied with
Mr. Benson's previous work. Mr. Benson will be addressing Proposition "A"
expenditures for the upcoming years in a report ~o be submitted to Council
shortly.
It was MOVED by Councilman Haltom, seconded by Councilman Hannah and car-
ried on roll call vote as follows that the Agreement with Daniel Benson
and Associates be approved and that the Mayor and City Clerk be authorized
to execute the Agreement in form approved by the City Attorney.
AYES
NOES :
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
None
None
The City Council at its meeting of January 18', 1983, approved a contract
for the purchase and installation of alu,ninum seat and ,floor covers for
bleachers at various schools. However, it has subsequently come to light
that part of the formal procedure was inadvertently omitted from the bid-
ding process, and based on legal advice, it was MOVED by Councilman Dring,
seconded by Councilman Haltom and carried on roll call vote as follows,
that pursuant to Arcadia Municipal Code Section 2844.3. the Council waive
noncompliance with the procedures set forth in staff report dated
February 8, 1983, and that the award of contract to General Seating
Company in the amount of $15,465.76, be RATIFIED. (SEE JANUARY 18, 1983
MINUTES FOR APPROPRIATIONS.)
AYES
NOES :
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
None
None
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ACAPULCO
RESTAURANT
PARKING
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PART-TIME'
POS I TI ONS
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APPROVED
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Request of the Acapulco Restaurant for a reduction in its rent for
additional parking space from the City at 219 North First Avenue.
They ask that the current annual rent of $11,700 (paid quarterly) be
reduced to $5,850 annually (paid quarterly), and for the granting of
a 5-year lease agreement. It was submitted that a 5-year annual return
on the property combined with the continued operation of the restaurant
facility for at least a 5-year period, would be in the best interests
of the City; however, it was submitted that an escalating clause be in
the Agreement... 6% was felt to be reasonable... and that an oppor-
tunity be afforded Acapulco to purchase the property at the current
market price.
It was MOVED by Councilman Dring, seconded by Councilman Hannah and
carried on roll call vote as follows, that the requested reduction to
$5,850 annually on a 5-year basis be APPROVED with a 6% rider attached,
and that an opportunity to purchase the property at the current market
value be presented to Acapulco. The City Attorney is to prepare a new
lease to commence Apri 1 1, 1983. Staff .to report back to Counc i 1, and
if they do not agree - and since they are in default already - that
Council give consideration to some kind of action.
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AYES
NOES :
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
None
None
Council received and discussed the salary recommendations for part-time
positions for 1983-84 commencing June 17, 1983. It was noted in the
report dated February 9 that the Personnel Department had obtained input
from the Parks and Recreation and Police Departments and the Library
management; they had evaluated the internal relationships between various
positions and had completed a labor market salary survey to determine pay
recommendations for part-time classifications. '
It was MOVED by Councilman Hannah, seconded by Councilman Lojeski and
carried on roll call vote as follows that the staff recommendation be
implemented and that a resolution be prepared to make the salary increases
effective June 17, 1983.
AYES
NOES
Cou~cilmen Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
Councilmen Dring, Haltom (Councilman Dring felt the money could
better be spent on full-time employees who are more important
to the City on a long-term basis, and,noted the employee
terminations which Council authorized in July of 1982)
None
ABSENT:
Staff advised that it had received an inquiry from Pasadena as to whether
or not the City would be interested in joining with five cities (Duarte,
Monrovia, Pasadena, Sierra Madre, and South Pasadena) in a CETA consor-
tium beginning October 1, 1983. It was noted that the Federal Government I
has proposed that the CETA program continue to be funded on a reduced
funding level with more emphasis on private sector job training. There
are two options: (1) Allow the County to provide CETA services to the
Arcadia residents which would permit the County to use the monies, that
might be allocated to Arcadia residents, anywhere in the First Super-
visorial District; (2) Arcadia could join with the other cities and
deal directly with the State for funds that would be allocated for the
residents of its area.
In response to an inquiry from Councilman lojeski as to whether or not
the City of Pasadena would act as administrator of the program, staff
stated in part that with Pasadena the City would be in a good position
bargaining-wise because Pasadena needs Arcadia's population as well as
Monrovia's population to have sufficient numbers for the overall group
to qualify.... If Arcadia does not go along, Monrovia could not as the
cities must be contiguous to Pasadena.
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SENIOR
CITIZEN
HOUS I NG
RELOCATION
ASSISTANCE
APPROVED
r:tL/o9
ORDINANCE
NO. 1763
ADOP,
ORDINANCE
NO. 1764
ADOPTED
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It was MOVED by Councibnan Dring, seconded by Councilman Haltom and
carried on roll call vote as follows, that the Mayor be authorized to
send a letter of intent to Pasadena regarding the City's intent to join
with the other contiguous cities to form a CETA Service Delivery Area
Consortium.
AYES
NOES
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Lojeski, Pellegrino
Councilman Hannah
None
The Senior Citizen housing project at 645-663 West Naomi Avenue is being
funded with HUD Section 202 funds; therefore, the City must provide
relocation benefits to existing tenants pursuant to the Federal Uniform
Relocation Assistance and Real Property Acquisition Act of 1970. It was
noted that the property owner has waived his rights to relocation assis-
tance but the City must provide assistance to the tenants. The necessary
steps were outlined in the staff report dated February 15. It was recom-
mended that the services of a relocation consultant be obtained. The
Community Development Block Grant funds have been reserved for relocation
benefits as well as consultant fees.
It was MOVED by Councilman Haltom, seconded by Councilman lojeski and
carried on roll call vote as follows, that staff be AUTHORIZED to ~roteed
with the preparation of a request for proposal for consultant services
at a fee not to exceed $5,000. (Responses and staff recommendations will
be subsequently presented to Council for selection of a consultant.)
AYES Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
The City Attorney presented for the secund time, explained the content
and read the title of Ordinance No. 1763, entitled: "AN ORDINANCE OF
-fHECITYOFARCADIA AMENDING THE ARCADIA MUNICIPAL CODE BY -AD[)ING-
VARIOUS SECTIONS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, ARTICLE IX THEREOF AND ADDING
TITLE 6 TO DIVISION 5, PART 7, CHAPTER 2 OF ARTICLE IX, DEFINING AND
REGULATING GAME MACHINE ARCADES."
It was MOVED by Councilman Dring, seconded by Councilman Haltom and
carried on roll call vote as follows, that further reading of the full
text of Ordinance No. 1763 be waived.
AYES
NOES :
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
None
None
It was further MOVED by Councilman Lojeski, seconded by Councilman Hannah
and carried on roll call vote as follows that Ordinance No. 1763 be
ADOPTED.
AYES
NOES
ABSEN1:
Councilmen Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
Councilmen Dring, Haltom
None
The City Attorney presented for the second time, explailled the content
and read the title of Ordinance No. 1764, entitled: "AN ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF ARCADIA AMENDING THE ARCADIA MUNICIPAL CODE BY REPEALING A
SECTION OF AND AMENDING VARIOUS SECTIONS OF AND ADDING VARIOUS SECTIONS
TO CHAPTER 2 OF ARTICLE.VI THEREOF PERTAINING TO ENTERTAINMENT PERMITS
FOR AND REGULATION OF GAME'MACHINES AND GAME MACHINE ARCADES."
It was MOVED by Councilman Dring, seconded by Councilman Haltom and
carried on roll call vote as follows, that further reading of the full
text of Ordinance No. 1764 be waived.
AYES
NOES
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
None
None
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ORDINANCE
NO. 1765
INTRODUCED
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ORDINANCE
NO. '1767
INTRODUCED
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RESOLUTION
NO. 5086
ADOPTED
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It was further MOVED by Councilman Lojeski, seconded by Councilman
Hannah and carried on roll call vote as follows that Ordinance No.
1764 be ADOPTED.
AYES : Councilmen Hannah, lojeski, Pellegrino
NOES : Councilmen Dring, Haltom
ABSENT: None
The City Attorney presented, explained the content and read the title
of Ordinance No. 1765 entitled: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ARCADIA
AMENDING THE ARCADIA MUNICIPAL CODE BY DELETING THE REQUIREMENT THAT
THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ACTION ON TEXT AMENDMENTS AND ZONE CHANGES
BE ADOPTED BY FORMAL RESOLUTION." '
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It was MOVED by Councilman Dring, seconded by Councilman Halto~_and:'
carried on roll call vote as follows, that further reading-of the full
text of Ordinance No. 1765 be waived and that same be INTRODUCED.
AYES : Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
Considerable discussion held on proposed Ordinance No. 1767 concerning
charges for late payment of business licenses and renewals. Staff
submitted a report recommending amending the current ordinance to pro-
vide a new penalty for late renewals and commencing businesses. This
has been brought about through numerous complaints about the current
penalty of $200 or 50% of the license fee, whichever is greater.
Following the deliberations, Councilman Dring presented, read the title
of Ordinance No. 1767, entitled: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ARCADIA
AMENDING THE ARCADIA MUNICIPAL CODE BY AMENDING SECTIONS 6214.3 AND
6214.3.1 AMENDING THE PENALTY FOR LATE PAYMENT OF LICENSE FEES AND COM-
MENCING BUSINESS WITHOUT A LICENSE AND FINDING SAID FEE AND PENALTIES
DO NOT EXCEED COSTS OF SERVICE AND REGULATORY ENFORCEMENT," and MOVED
that the further reading of the full text be WAIVED and that said
ordinance be INTRODUCED with the following amendments: Under Section 1.
6214.3 PENALTY - the schedule of penalty fees be 20% of the license
fee per month, 50% of the license fee the second month, and 40% of the
license fee the third month, and that under Section 2. 6214.3.1 the "$50
maximum" be deleted. MOTION seconded by Councilman Hannah and carried
on roll call vote as follows:
AYES : Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
NOES : None
ABSENT: None
It was further MOVED by Councilman Dring, seconded by Councilman Hannah
and carried on roll call vote as follows, that staff be directed not to
apply the current penalty fees pending adoption of this ordinance.
AYES : Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
NOES, : None
ABSENT: None
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The City Attorney presented, explained the content and read the title
of Resolution No. 5086, entitled: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA,AUTHORIZING AND INSTRUCTING THE
COUNTY OF lOS ANGELES AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONER TO IMPLEMENT THE PRO-
VISIONS OF ASSEMBLY BILL 2854 OF JUNE 30, 1982, PROVIDING FOR RECOVERY
OF WEED AND BRUSH ABATEMENT ENFORCEMENT COSTS IN THE FORM OF A $13.00
ASSESSMENT ON ALL PARCELS CLEARED IN THE CITY OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA,
BY THE AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONER."
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TRAFFIC
DIVERTER
Orange Grove
& San Carlos
(REPORT BACK)
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It was MOVED by Councilman Dring, seconded by, Councilman Haltom and
carried on roll call vote as follows, that further reading of the full
text of Resolution No. 5086 be waived and that same be ADOPTED.
AYES
NOES
ABSENT:
Councilmen Dring, Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
None
None
Council deliberated on what should be done with the traffic diverter at
Orange Grove and San Carlos Road. Reference was made to a communication
from the Santa Anita Oaks Homeowners' Association indicating a preference
to retain the barrier. The City Attorney had advised that it would be
possible that the barrier could remain provided it was brought into con-
formity. He will discuss this with the Court and will report back to
Council... it may take a formal resolution. Staff will provide esH-
mates for beautification of the barriers.
() I 0- ,~. COUNC Il ENTERED A CLOSED SESS ION, RECONVENED AND TOOK ACTION AS FOLLOWS:
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COMPENSATION
ECONOMIC
REDEVELOPMENT
ADJOURNED TO
FEBRUARY 16
6:30 p.m.
(
ATTEST:
City Clerk
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It was MOVED by Councilman Lojeski, seconded 'by Councilman Haltom and
carried on roll call vote as follows that the salary range for Assistant
City Manager/Economic Redevelopment be increased to $2,995 - $3,640 per
month.
AYES
NOES :
ABSENT:
Councilmen Haltom, Hannah, Lojeski, Pellegrino
Councilman Dring
None
The meeting ADJOURNED at 12 midnight to 6 :30 p.m. Wednesday, February 16
in the Conference Room to conduct the business of the Council and Agency
and any Closed Session, if any, necessary to discuss personnel, litigation
matters, and evaluation of properties.
~r.
Mayor
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MAYOR
I PELLEGRINO
STEVEN
BOCIAN
PELLEGRINO
COUNCILMAN
DRING
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T RAN S C RIP T
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF FEB. 15, 1983
PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING
CABLE TELEVISION FRANCHISE
(Insofar as decipherable)
Item 1 on our agenda is a public hearing, a continued public hearing
regarding cable television franchise which will be handled by Steve
Bocian.
Mr. Mayor and Members of the Council: you have my staff report on
this subject. In the staff report it is recommended that this scheduled
public hearing be continued until such time as the Council desires to
proceed with the granting or denial of the cable TV franchise. We'd like
to amend that request so that this scheduled hearing be closed after this
evening, and we would reopen the hearing at such time that the Council
wishes to discuss the granting or denial of the cable TV franchise. We
continue to request that staff be authorized to pursue negotiations with
Group W Cable in an effort to resolve any differences in the draft cable
TV ordinance.
I'd also like to inform the Council that members of Group
the audience in case you have any questions you'd like to
That concludes my report.
Thank you, Mr. Bocian. Mr. Dring -
Mr. Bocian, I approve of your recommendation to close the public hearing
because it's never been brought to us to approve the franchise. We have
a currently existing one. Secondly, I'm a little bit ,concerned about
your negotiating with them, items,.in the draft, when the draft itself has
never - you know - formally been reviewed by the Council in a session
where we thought about the particulars of it and made any suggestions, so
- I appreciate the fact that you are trying to cut down a time lapse, but
I don't see a time gun here since their franchise runs to '88. Number
one, and number two, Council has not gone through a formal process. In
W Cable are in
direct to them.
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DRING
(cont'd)
BOCIAN
GEORGE WATTS
CITY MANAGER
COUNCILMAN
HANNAH
BOCIAN
HANNAH
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 2
Reg CC Mtg
fact, I'm not in favor of reviewing the franchise currently. You know,
that's my particular, position. So why would it be appropriate to
allocate staff time for this particular item at this point?
Well, because we would be able to get a handle as to some major short-
comings of the franchise that Group W may find that we could pass on to
the Council. We have prepared the draft based on staff recommendations
and the recommendations of our consultants, and we feel comfortable -
we would like to get some sort of idea from Group W at this time, whether
there are some things that are in the draft that they simply cannot pro-
vide or that they are not able to meet up with meet and then we can 1
inform Council of this. We do not intend to formalize any sort of an
arrangement with them; we just trying to get some fe~dback from them to
find out their feelings of the needed draft.
Councilman Dring, I think the word "negotiation" was the wrong term to use
there. Basically, what it really amounts to is meeting with Group W to
see where their concerns are with the draft, and to report those back to
the Council. We had not intended to truly negotiate apart from any dis-
cussions with the Council; merely get their reaction to our draft, and
then in turn pass that on to the City Council for further direction.
I have'two questions, if I may. One, if I recall properly, we did send
a letter to Group W of our intention to cancel unless they brought the
- unless they complied with the terms of the present agreement. I'd like
to know where we stand on that letter - what has happened there.
That letter was sent to the local office here. Staff requested that
Group W comply with 5 requests. They have been able to respond favorably
to all of those and they have provided us with the information that we
have requested.
I was under the impression that we were going to send them a letter that
stated that inasmuch as they had not complied with the terms of their
contract, we were going to take necessary steps to terminate the agree-
ment. If I recall in reading the previous agreement, it required Group W
or Teleprompter, as the case may be, to provide cable TV to all the people
in Arcadia within a given period of time. They haven't done that. They
obviously,'theri, are in noncompliance with their present agreement.
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HANNAH
(cont'd)
I BOCIAN
HANNAH
BOC IAN
HANNAH
BOCIAN
HANNAH
BOCIAN
HANNAH
BOCIAN
HANNAH
BOCIAN
HANNAH
BOCIAN
HANNAH
BOCIAN
HANNAH
I
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 3
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Secondly, in your memo you state that staff understands that the consensus
of the Council is to postpone any decision until Group W has demonstrated
its ability to conform. That was not my thinking. My thinking was, and
I gathered from our previous conversation with the other Council members,
that not only did we want them to demonstrate their ability, but to also
comply with the terms of their contract, and that - the terms of that
contract required them to provide all the citizens of Arcadia with cable
television. Now, in our letter to them did we not - did we just say, "all
you have to do is rectify the problems north of Foothill and solve alL,
their problems and forget about everybody else," or what did we say in our -
No, we actually said that, first of all, unless they met our 5 requests,
that the Council would begin revocation proceedings, and we also said that
we expected an improvement in the service. A-
May I interrupt you, Mr. Bocian, did we put, as one of our 5 requirements,
that they provide service to all of the residents of Arcadia?
No.
Why wouldn't we do that?
Because there is, as I recall, we don't have a time frame in our franchise
for that.
It was in the original contract.
Right. Yes, but there's no time
It was in our original contract
That's right.
They've assumed the obligations of the original contract.
That's right.
And they have not complied with that.
That's right.
Why would we not go ahead with the termination if they haven't complied
with the contract?
Well, because, as I understand it, they still have a number of years left
on their contract for which they could comply to that section.
They're in violation of their contract because - I don't know the exact
time frame, but I think that they were to provide service to all of
Arcadia within a given period of time - something less than two years.
frame outside of -
- I keep going back
to that.
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HANNAH
(cont'd)
WATTS
HANNAH
WATTS
HANNAH
PELLEGRINO
COUNCILMAN
LOJESKI
BOCIAN
PELLEGRINO
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 4
Reg CC Mtg.
I don't have the contract with me, otherwise I'd look it up.
Councilman, the current franchise that we're operating under - franchise
ordinance - does not have a time period for building the remainder 'of the
City.
I can't argue the point. I don't have a copy. Unfortunately, I didn't
know we were going to get into this. I would have brought the
I'm sorry, I don't have mY copy with me either, but we can get it before
this meeting is over.
Then I'd like to defer this until we can find out whether they're in I
compliance with their agreement or not. And I would again like to stress
the fact that my thinking was not necessarily to extend the contract
based upon their demonstra~ing their ability - it was on the basis of
their complying with the terms of the contract.
Mr. Hannah, I have a copy here. Mr. Miller's copy. Maybe you'd like to
thumb through it while we continue.
In defense only, and this doesn't happen very often where I'm going to
come to Group W's defense, but perhaps there may have been a 2-year time
frame. Let's assume there was. Well, is it not really true that
Teleprompter was the one, if there was a problem. You can't expect, let's
say, the new buyer of the thing to come in and all of a sudden go back and
comply. You know, I'm only bringing this out in defense. I personally
would like to hear, and I think there are some individuals in the audience,
Mr. Mayor, on this particular item, and then I do have some information
on this entire fiasco that I'd like to add after public input.
I would like to inform Council that the draft you received this evening,
staff has amended the term of the franchise so that there is in effect
no extension. We have made it that this franchise would run the life of
the existing franchise, but we added a provision saying that the Council,
at their pleasure, could extend that term.
Thank you, Mr. Bocian.' That is staff's report. At this time the pUblic
hearing is open. All those in favor of this item on the agenda, would
you come up to the podium and state your name and address for a matter
of record.
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RUSTY FAUST
I
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2-15-83 Tl Pg. 5
Reg. CC Mtg.
Your honor, Mayor Pe 11 egri no, Ci ty Council members: My name is Rus ty
Faust. I'm the General Manager of Group W Cable. Address is 641 West
Duarte Road, in Arcadia. On December 4th I stood before you and I said
that the system to rebuild in northern Arcadia will be completed by
December 31st. That, in fact, was completed by December 31st, except
for the power supplies being mounted which I had also stated if the
City could get them up, the Edison power company, there would not be a
holdup. Due to the storms, there was a 3-week delay in getting the
power supplies up. They hung the power supplies on January 17th.
On January 5th there was a meeting. I was out' of town, was not available.
Mr. Tom Plaven and Mr. Steve Larson,represented the company. We received
a letter from you outlining specific requests for information. With the
submission of the as-built drawings on January the 1st it is our belief
that we have fully complied with this request.
On January the 13th my office submitted to the City a plan for activating
and verifying service on the new cable system along with the plan for con-
verting 1,200 customers to this new system. As I indicated in that
letter, it was a massive effort to which Group W had committed considerable
resources with the objective being improved and expanded service for the
customers. We believe that we have made considerabl~ progress in that
effort, as the following points demonstrate: the new system has been
activated and verified and will be ready for an independent engineering
assessment February the 21st, 1983. Approximately 850, or 70% of the
customers have been converted from the old system to the new system.
Two mailers to each customer plus half-page advertisements in the Arcadia
Tribune have been utilized to keep the customers informed of our activities.
Two additional customer service representatives were added and a separate
customer service phone bank was installed for Arcadia customers. This was
to enable them to have a number where they could call and was readily
accessable to answer any questions or problems. Also, for those that were
missed and we were not able to contact.
A free month of basic service will be credited to each individual customer
for any inconvenience experienced during the changeover. I know there
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RUSTY
FAUST
(cont'd)
2-15-83 T1 Pg. 6
,Reg CC Mtg.
have been many of them, and th is is a sma 11 way of sayi ng, "thank you
for putting up with this during that period of time." The billing
system will be changed effective April 1, from a 2-month cycle to a
l-month cycle. I think that was of concern to some people at one of
the previous meetings. A follow-up survey of customers converted to
the new system is now being conducted to ascertain customer satisfaction
and explain new services available. All of this has been undertaken in
the last month, and we intend on continuing this kind of effort. In an
effort of this magnitude, ,problems will arise. Some of the problems have I
been the estate nature arid~he multiple outlets and underground con-
I
struction that was required in many of the homes in the northern Arcadia
area. A solution for' that was that instead of a normal l-man installa- ,
tion crew, 2 men were assigned to each house with an average of 25 to 30
installation cont~actors working each day. Also, because of the diffi-
culty in some of the installations, a concurrent program of field
inspection was conducted, resulting in one subcontractor being released
after two days on the job. Scheduling customers to be converted from
the old system to the new system, problems encountered were contacting
some customers. We added 2 customer' representatives, as I said, on
separate phone banks. They have worked extended hours, trying to reach
everyone. Arranging for a property owner to be present during installa-
tion. Since we did not schedule specific times due to the nature of the
installations and the time involved, it was almost impossible to give a
certain time when someone would be there; therefore, we have missed
people because people have tired of waiting throughout the day. The
weather has created a problem. We've had six days of rain which has also
held us up - that's one full work-week for us. Simultaneously switching
some customers from the old service to the new system to ensure continued
service. While those customers were not yet converted to the new system,
and were receiving - and we cut off the old system, it turned off every-
one, so they were left without any type of service. And the only possible
solution for that was that we did install converters and hooked them up
to the new system without complete rewiring at the time. We did not
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realize - I didn-t - was not aware at the time that several of the homes
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FAUST
(cont'd)
I
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2-15-83 T1 Pg. 7
Reg CC Mtg.
were going to be without that service, and we immediately, that same
evening, did contact the people and get service to them.
Problems with picture quality on the new system. The vast majority
of the installations that have complained of picture quality have been
because of lack of understanding of our fine tuner and the remote device
which operates it. Eight out of ten of the people that have had problems
we have been able to walk-through on the telephone, explaining them to
them exactly how to use the fine tuner.
Another problem was the disruption of the
new system was being swept and balanced.
some people were without service, and it
pictures.
service during the day when the
This interrupted the service;
did cause interruptions on the
Requests from customers for expanded services. People who were already
on the new system have called and wanted expanded services. One of the
things that I insisted upon to begin with was that the people, unless
they did insist to the point where we couldn't say no, was to let them
have the service for at least 2 weeks prior to giving them expanded
services so that we were sure and could follow up that they did have a
good picture quality.
Just recently it has come to our attention a problem of contractors not
identifying themselves with Group W I.D. cards or City business,licenses.
Assessing private property without permission of property owner. In an
effort to solve these problems, effective tomorrow our installation
installers will again be instructed to identify themselves with either
a copy of the City business license or a Group W I.D. card, both of which
they presently have. They are not to assess private property without the
permission of the property owner. Failure of the contractor to meet these
requirements will result in their dismissal.
These were the major problems encountered in our efforts this past month.
We have done everything possible to minimize them, and we are now seeing
gradual reduction in the amount of complaints. We have received several
letters from satisfied customers tell ing us what good recepti'on they have.
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FAUST
(cont'd)
PELLEGRINO
LOJESKI
WATTS
LOJESKI
WATTS
LOJESKI
WATTS
LOJESKI
FAUST
lOJESKI
FAUST
lOJESKI
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 8
Reg CC Mtg.
We are doing a fOllow-up of installations. We have an installations
customer service specialist and she is doing calls to find out exactly
what problems people are experiencing, and we are sending out - she is
setting up service calls if there is definitely a problem and working
with the people to make certain that they do have a quality picture that
the should have.
In the upcoming weeks we will continue to convert the remaining customers
from the old to the new system. We hope to get this done as quickly as
possible. I personally pledge to work with the City Council until we
both have a cable system that we can be proud of.
Thank you, Rusty. Any questions to Rusty? Mr. Lojeski -
A couple of things, Miss Faust. Some of this you've heard before, some
of this perhaps not. First of all, on January 5th you received a letter
outlining specific requests. It is your belief that you have fully com-
plied with this request. Is it true, Mr. Watts, that has been taken care
of?
,
[lInrlpr;phprehlp]
We sent a request on January 5th to Group W requesting specific informa-
tion. Has that been totally carried out to our satisfaction?
Are you referring to the request for information regarding the employees?
No, I'm getting - that's coming.
Okay, it's my understanding that the information that we had previously
asked for has been provided to the City.
Has the entire area north of Foothill been run - not from the poles to
the house, but has every pole been strung with new cable?
Yes, to my knowledge, yes.
It has?
Yes.
I strongly suggest you find out, first of all, where Whispering Pines
Estates are. As of today, as of 5 o'clock tonight, that area still has
no cable. There also is a gentleman by the name of Mr. Tom Bower, whose
next door neighbor has no cable because the - it was pointed out to him
by one of the installers that the cable ends at his telephone pole and
there happens to be another telephone pOle next to him which services his
,
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LOJESKI
(cont'd)
FAUST
LOJESKI
I
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2-15-83 Tl Pg. 9
Reg CC Mtg.
next door neighbor. I don't think that's totally correct and totally
true, and I would suggest you perhaps look into that. Are you still
on schedule? Now I'm referring to the letter of February 10th which you
sent to us indicating all of the new system has been activated and
verified and will be ready for an independent engineering assessment
on the 21st of this month. Are you still on schedule with that?
Yes sir.
Okay. In the same letter you made a couple of statements. Page 4 -
requests from customers for expanded services. And it states, I
quote: "In order to control who ligitimately ordered these services
and should have them, they are handled either by in-house installers
or a',specia1 contractor." I personally asked the special installer -
in-house installer, we'll call him a special subcontractor, how about
giving me the news service - the expanded service? And he was told
that he was, first of all, unfamiliar with it, and secondarily was not
able to do this sort of thing. So, I don't think that statement's
entirely correct.
Also, the following statement sentence it reads, "Before installation
a sales representative must contact the customer and explain the new
services." I was never explained the news serv'ices until today. I was
given a sheet of paper with my new magical control box and that's about
as far as the information went. I have no idea what the fees were until
I actually asked you and Mr. Flaven today. I was the one who did ask
George - Mr. Watts - to ask Becky Pike what the licensing requirements
- and I'm addressing this comment, I think, to my fellow Councilmen -
there are a number right now, of subcontractors. I counted at least 4
different cable television trucks in my particular neighborhood last
Friday. And I'm a little concerned about that. I'm concerned from the
standpoint: ',(1) with that much activity in the community, who's to know
as a homeowner, who is truly representing a cable television company or
a ripoff firm, and I would strongly request that not only identification
cards but also information could be disseminated to the homeowner as to
who these people are. They're driving in trucks which do not even have
local addresses on them. They're Huntington Beach, El Cajon, you know,
this sort of thing. Also, we do have a couple of subcontractors who I
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lOJESKI
(cont'd)
FAUST
LOJESKI
WATTS
FAUST
LOJESKI
CITY ATTORNEY
MI CHAEL MILLER
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 10
Reg CC Mtg.
do not believe have licenses currently in the City of Arcadia to do
business; one being Superior Cable, but I did get a memo or the
information from George through Becky that they have taken out 'a license
permit. The other one is Cable TV Auditing - CATV Construction, with a
714 area code. And I believe that's one that should be checked on and they
should have the appropriate business license.
They are working for a company called Westcom Contractors. They're being
paid by them and I think that you'll find that Westcom Contractors does
have a City 1 icense.
Is that correct, Mr. Watts? 00 they not need a license if they're
for someone else?
woe ki"
have a
If they are the employees; if they are a subcontractor they should
business license also.
Then I'll see that they have one, but they are working for
Westcom as Westcom employees.
I then draw your attention to the request which I made at the previous
Council meeting in regard to some simple background information as to
the principles involved with Group W Cable in this particular area. I'm
not asking for financial statements, I'm simply wanting to know whether
we're dealing with people who are involved or have been involved in com-
munication services in the past. Are we dealing witn plumbers? Are we
dealing with dentists? Who are we dealing with? This is a contract
,
that the City of Arcadia is into.with a cable company, and I cannot believe
the letter that was sent to us. Now my question goes to the City Attorney
as far as - is the: interpretation of this Jetter correct? Is it actually
Federal and State privacy laws - are they strictly governing the avail-
ability and dissemination of this simple information without the permission
of the employee?
I have preliminarily reviewed that question and have placed a call to the
Human Resources person for the Group W Company to get clarification. They
have not yet responded to my request. However, I.would at least rule at
this time preliminarily, that certain generalized background information
perhaps with the deletion of the employee's name, would be permissible.
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MILLER
(CQnt'd)
FAUST
I
lOJ ESKI
,
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 11
Reg CC Mtg.
I think when you get into certain specific personnel, confidential or
personal information that may very well be subject to some of these
laws, but if I understand your reques~; Councilman. ~eneral ized back-
ground information would be appropriate, and I will be talking to their
Human Resources person about the means to obtain this general information
that you seek.
Councilman Lojeski, I did not receive a request of any type, to my
knowledge. Mr. Flaven may have regarding personnel. I do not see at
this point, where the people who are involved, if they have extensive
backgrounds in communications, you have peop1e'who are going to come to
work'who are going to be trained in all areas of employment, and I do not
see that the background of an individual working should be in communica-
tions. I don't know if you're talking about management; I don't know
if you're cta 1 k i hg about just ,our regul a r employees, but, I do not see tha t
that is something that we should give out. It's up to our Human Resource
person, but I didn't receive the request - okay?
You were on a business trip, I believe, to Florida at that particular
meeting. Let me draw a little story together for my fellow Councilmen
and perhaps for the people in the audience; a personal experience. And
I think you'll see why this particular type of information is a little
bit important. A meeting was scheduled at my own home for 8:30 on Friday
morning to finally install my new cable from the telephone pole to my home,
to my television set. It wasn't until 9:20 that the individuals finally
arrived. I should have left. This has been typical of Group W in the
past. But finally someone did arrive. Two individuals from the El Cajon
subcontracting group, who proceeded, after a 15-minute huddle together,
decided that my job was not in their realm of availability to perform. It
wasn't until later that afternoon that Mr. Larson came to my home, now
with another individual who proceeded to tell me that they were going to
progress the following day in a certain fashion. I was told exactly how
it was going to be done and what could be expected. And I was told that
those individuals would arrive some time approximately before 10 o'clock
in the morning. I told them someone would be at home. I told them if
there was a change in attack, in plan, I would appreciate knowing about
this. They went ahead and did arrive at 10. I was not at home. My
wife was in the home, was aware of their presence. They never came to
the door. They proceeded to have 6 individuals. When I arrived at
approximately 11 :15. These 6 individuals had 6 shovels, dug a trench
approximately 20 to 25 feet long, extending a very tortuous pattern,
approximately 5 feet deep. The amount of damage that was done to my
yard is in the neighborhood of $225, of which I have a certified bid
from my landscaping gardener, and this has been presented to Group W
tonight. I was told by one of them, "Don't worry, I'm really a gardener,"
that's what one of ' the gentlemen said, yet he was passing himself off asl
someone knowledgeable of cable. Again, the homeowner, in this instance,
was led to believe that something was going to be done in a certain fashi
was not told that there was a change in the plan and a change in attack, .
that personal property was going to be damaged. So I think you can see and
you can understand why I would like to have simply a little bit of simple
background. Again, are we dealing with plumbers, are we dealing with
doctors, are we dealing with dentists, are we dealing with people, that
know something about cable television? I personally feel it's very very
important.
Councilman Lojeski, are you on the new service at the present time?
I'm presently on the new service - that is correct. That's correct.
Tha t 's a 11 I ha ve.
Were you happy with the installation that we finally did?
Well, you know, Mrs. Faust, it's easy for me to say "yes," because it's
after the fact. I agree with Mr. Hannah: this is something that 4
in the franchise agreement which was written four years ago, and you
took over, has been violated from day one. So I'm simply getting today
what I really should have had four years ago - that's the way I'm looking
at it.
But I wasn't here four years ago.
But that's something we have no control over. You inherited a lemon and
I say you - Group W - you've got two strikes on you, and a third one's
coming down the pipe, and unfortunately you have to show some credibility;
you must go in and correct'the problems that have existed in the com-
m," i ty, ood th, "m,l, i"" thot h,,, bee" thee' - YO' ."'" - th, t ',"",y ,
TRANSCRIPT
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 12
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LOJESKI
(cont'd)
FAUST
LOJESKI
FAUST
LOJESKI
FAUST
LOJESKI
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TRANSCRIPT
lOJESKI
(cont'd)
FAUST
f LOJESKI
PELLEGRINO
HANNAH
,
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 13
Reg CC Mtg.
very important - customer relations is important; expertise with the
cable is important; picture quality is important; they're all
important. And so to ask me if I'm happy now, I finally got television
reception. But how many public hearings has it taken? How many re9uests
has it been? Why did it take 13 people and 4 subcontractors and a cable
Group W television crew on my property on my lunch hour on Monday to get
that type of action. That's what I have trouble with.
We wanted you to be happy.
Gosh thanks.
Any other questions, Mr. Hannah -
Mrs. Faust, I share Councilman Lojeski 's opinion up to a point, and I do
have to complement you on the fact that you are making a diligent effort
to correct the situation north of Foothill Boulevard. And, you know, it's
amazing when you get television reception how your attitude changes. I
jokingly said to my associate after I got mine, "Why don't you come over
at 11 o'clock and watch the news with me," but you know, we're not the
only ones that have to be satisfied. I've gotten a number of calls from
people south of Colorado Boulevard. The contract says the grantee shall
extend cable television service to any resident ,if the resident requests
the service extension and the service connection requires no more than a
standard 150 foot dropline, and on the next page it says that you'll do
it if the dropline is more than 150 feet provided they pay for it. I'm
told by our City Attorney that sometime in the past there was a resolution
that defined that particular provision and limited it to less than the
entire city. r"m not aware 0f that, I'm just looking at this contract.
My-concern now is I really think you've done a diligent effort to correct
the situation north of Foothill, and my complements to you on that. I
guess I'm never happy, I want it for everybody in Arcadia, and I want to
know when the people south of Arcadia and the people who live on San Simion;
on Old Ranch Road, on Sixth Avenue, wherever it may be, when they're going
to get the service. They're not concerned about the fact that I got my
service, they want their service too. And I think it's only fair that we
let them know, to give them some time frame as to when they can expect
cable TV. Now I don't particularly care about movies and I don't buy all
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PELLEGRINO
DRING
HANNAH
DRING
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your extra services, but there are an awful lot of people in City of
Arcadia who'd like to, and they don't have access to it, and I get
telephone ca 11 s and they say, "When am I goi ng to get it?" I go out to
breakfast and they say, "Hey, what are you doing about it?" and the only
thing I can do is to come back to you and point out their concern -
they're not getting it, and I would like to have an answer as to when
they're going to get it. And until they get it, I think that the
administration here is spinning their wheels, because I don't think that
the attitude of the Council, from what I can judge, is such that they
want to do anything about the existing contract until we have complied
with the wishes of our constituents. That's all of the people.
Excuse me, Rusty, Mr. Dring -
May I address something before Rusty responds to that, David?
Sure.
You've heard me vocalize my"opinions about Group W and the way they've
handled things in the past, but I would like to say congratulations to
Tom. I think there's been a' significant improvement of effort being
made over the near term, and it's recognizable. The objective, at least
in my opinion, of where I came from with regard to this new cable tele-
vision franchise ordinance was: (1) not an extension of time, but
rather to specifically address the question which you just raised, okay?
Without extending' the franchise, what build-out time are we talking
about with regard to the rest of the City? Now I believe that ptaff here
has made an attempt to address that area. Now they don't have specific
schedules in here yet, but the problem being that if we take today's
franchise - which is very nebulous and doesn't pin it down - if we can
create schedules for buildout and penalties for lack of meeting those
schedules - alright - then I think we all understand we've got a problem,
number one, and number two, how are we going to address it under what
time frames wHh what resources. It's that that's what really the cable
television franchise ordinance that's been handed to us is supposed to
do is address how we're going to finish and when are we going to finish
building out the rest of Arcadia. Now, I'm not at all in favor of grant-
ing an extension of terms - of length of terms. On the other hand, if
they were to turn the operation around, provide good service on a
,
,
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HANNAH
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HANNAH
PELLEGR INO
FAUST
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PELLEGRINO
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continuing basis, commit to buildout under certain schedules and meet
those commitments, then I would have no objection to extending the
franchise length of term because they're providing the service that
we're asking for. So that's what the purpose of this doctrine is in
the first place. Does that make any sense?
My only comment is until the people south of Foothill are provided ser-
vices I'm not willing to talk about revising and extending the contract,
and that's al1 I'm saying. I complement them on what they're doing, I
think they're making a diligent effort to satisfy the people up north;
I realize it hasn't been easy for them; they got a can of worms, so to
speak; that's their own fault, they bought the contract; they should
have looked at it before they bought it. But by the same token, that's
not the concern of the people south of Foothill. The concern is, when
do I get my cable.
Do you want to make any effort to try to define that?
I want her to answer when she anticipates the people south of Foothill
are going to get cable.
Excuse me, Gentlemen - Rusty -
Yes, I think it goes back to exactly what Mr. Dring said - that without
some guidelines and the resolution that we agreed upon, it's not a good
practice for us to start building.
Well, hold it now - may I?
Mr Dring -
Rusty, I outlined at least my intent of 'the original document; let us
not be confused. The contract and the commitment to the City under
which we have given you virtually a monopoly to the City, and an
authorized it under a franchise agreement to proceed -
Right.
Are you standing here telling us that unless we redraw this franchise -
No - no sir -
And extend the terms you're not going to [undecipherable]
No sir, I did not mean that - I did not mean it like that at all. I
mean that if - and I'm not the one that should be answering this, but
I would like to say that under the existing resolution, if that's the
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PEllEGRINO
DRING
FAUST
JOHN MERR ITT
PELLEGRINO
MERRITT
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 16
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way we're going to operate, that's something else.
operate under the existing resolution; are we going
resolution before we start building?
Gentl emen -
I have a question: who is the one to answer that question?
Mr. Flaven or Mr. Merrit could answer it.
Are,we going to
to draw up a
new
My name is John Merritt,I'm the Foothill District Manager for Group W
Cable based in Upland.
Excuse me, Gentlemen. Will you repeat that? -
John Merritt - M~e-r-r-i-t-t. I'm the District Manager for Group W ,
Cable based in Upland, for the Foothill District. At the December 4th
meeting at which I last was at, it was my understanding, as well as our
Regional Vice President, Frank Nellis, that we, Group W, were essentially
given an ultimatim that the City and Group W would not discuss building
the area south of Foothill until we proved to you that we were capable of
providing effective service in the area we currently serve. I think, from
what I'm hearing tonight, without it actually being said, we have met
that commitment. We have fulfilled the five points in the letter dis-
cussed, and we feel we've made a great deal of progress. Seventy percent
of the customers north of Foothill have been converted and connected to
th~i~ystem, and we are ready to begin building; however, our understand-
ing is that the Council would not consider releasing us to build the rest
of the city until we have fulfilled that commitment. And on that December
4th meeting, I believe we addressed the issue, as Councilman Dring sug-
gested, that if we did prove to you our ability to effectively run a cable
system, that the Council would then discuss extending the franchise.
Clearly, we have inherited an ordinance that only has six, perhaps a few
months less than six years to run now. As a matter of prudent business
judgment, we must ask ourselves, is it going to be a wise decision to
build? At the same time, we have to recognize our commitment to you, in
buying the agreement from the Teleprompter company. I think that we're
asking for clarification from the Council as to whether they want to dis-
cuss a new resolution or ordinance or whether they're asking today that
we proceed under the present ordinance.
,
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COUNCILMAN
HALTOM
I
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MERRITT
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 17
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Mr. Haltom -
First, I would like to commend Miss Faust; I think she has done a
tremendous, put forth a tremendous effort and made tremendous progress,
because you started way way back, and you really have done a good job.
I know it's a lot of problems, a lot of combinations of problems, and
I really feel that you've made a very sincere effort, I really do.
For myself, I would be not in favor of extending the franchise, and I
can't see - you're talking about a financial commitment, you know, not
a prudent business to make a financial commitment for new equipment
and everything else. That, to me, is not very valid for one reason:
once you have the permits to string the lines on the poles and every-
thing, and once you have the lines in place - assuming it won't take
six years - you have, in effect, a captive audience. From then on you,
in effect, hold the franchise to the City, whether in legality or not.
The only question is the terms under which you hold the franchise. You're
just like Southern California Edison, the Gas Company, and anybody else.
When you've got your equipment in place there is, in effect, nobody that's
going to come in and compete with you. The only question is the terms
under which you have it in place. You know - the cost and the service you
provide - to me. I can't see why Group W should be hesitant and use that
as an excuse for not doing southern Arcadia because I would think that the
more they expanded their service the more of a captive audience they
would have. And you know how long it takes to get permits to hang those
on poles, and I can't imagine once you 'have your permits and have your
equipment in place, I can't imagine anybody even competing with you.
let me clarify, perhaps, Councilman Haltom, In no way do we suggest that
the only consideration to building south Arcadia is the financial commit-
ment - certainly not. We do have approval of 95% of the utility pole
applications completed. They are ready and we are able to go today. What
I'm asking again, to perhaps articulate a little more clearly is our
understanding on December 4th was that you were telling us that you will
reconsider extending the ordinance if we prove ourselves in north Arcadia.
And that's the assumption we've been going on since December 4th. That's
the reason we have not proceeded.
Mr. Hannah -
If you're asking today that we proceed under the existing ordinance,
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(cont'd)
PELLEGRINO
HANNAH
MERRITT
HANNAH
MERR ITT
PELLEGRINO
HAL TOM
MERR ITT
2-15-83 Tl Pg. 18
Reg CC Mtg.
clearly it's another matter, and we'll have to consider that. Certainly
we do want to reiterate our commitment to move ahead. But we'd just
like to know under what set of circumstances that would be -
Mr. Hannah -
I don't have the minutes of the December 4th meeting in front of me,
but I think that you're putting words in our mouth. We - I don't recall
having said, nor do I recall having heard my associates say that assuming
you got our television cables which were screwed up, fixed up in northern
Arcadia, that we would extend your contract. I don't think that was ever
said, and I'll be happy to have the City Clerk go through our minutes
verbatim to find out if that was said. I'm sure that the gentlemen here I
are all honorable, and if that's what we said we would do, I'm sure that'
what we'd do, but I would like to check that out. I don't recall that we
ever said that you get the cable program working north of Foothill and we
would rewrite this contract. I think what we said was, "comply with the
terms of the contract and then we'll talk about extnding them."
Yes sir, that is my understanding, and I believe you have articulated it
better than I.
The terms of the contract require you to service the entire City of Arcadia.
Yes, and the question of extending the ordinance was only one of the items
that was discussed. You are correct.
Mr. Haltom -
It's really covered - you both agree and I was just going to confirm what
Mr. Hannah said is true; and that is what we agreed on, you know. Is
there any reason why we would have to - or - do we, and this I ask of the
Council, too - do we want to renegotiate the franchise - not the term of
time - but is it to both of our ,advantages - is there some reason why we
should both want to renegotiate the terms, rather than the time. The
time factor I don't want to renegotiate, as far as I'm concerned. If they
can't do it in six years, they'll never do it. But is there some reason
why we should both get together and renegotiate o~ define the terms under
which we have a contract, existing franchise?
1'm not really prepared to address that, I would only suggest that we
would like to proceed with Mr. Bocian's recommendation that we continue
to meet with the administration and plan how to proceed. We want to
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(cont'd)
PELLEGRINO
DRING
I
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build that area for you; we are ready to go now; 95% of the pole
applications are in and we agree with the administration that the
most effective step would be to sit down with them and proceed now.
We'd like your approval to do that.
Mr. Dring -
To the Members of the Council, I suggest the following: my recollection
of my position in that December meeting was one of either anger to
Frank Nellis when he suggested, you know, he wouldn't build without an
extension, and I was angry at that aspect. There are some pragmatic
problems facing us: one,is that Group W has a franchise which
effectively gives them a monopoly; two, they have the pole permits
which effectively and very specifically provide them a monopoly for the
franchise in Arcadia. The third thing is that while we do have an
existing agreement, it's not very specific, and so yes, we're all in
agreement. let's get northern Arcadia cleaned up because it was ,a
disaster, and in my opinion, being handled very unprofessionally by
Group W. And I think they've made significant strides in that direction
now. I'd suggest to Council that it is in our best interest, and Group W's
best interest to look at the franchise agreement, utilize the consultants
that we hired to provide us specifications to performance so that we don't
get into this bad service again without some kind of'penalties. Provide
specifications and de1iniation. When you say, David, you know" build up
the rest of Arcadia, I agree with you, but they've got six years to do it
and if at the end of six years they're not doing it, so what? The new
franchise agreement, if you will, the consideration here is that they
provide for time frames, penalties and the rest. I think that's important
for all of us that we see this job get done in an expedient manner, and
it's in our best interest to contract those terms now. I'm not for
extending the terms of the franchise. On the other hand, I wouldn't be
against a provision that says, "If you meet these schedules, and you put
this service in and it's satisfactory and it works and you come up on
time in a reasonable time frame, and you provide this service to us, we
would extend it." I mean, we could ma~~ethat kind of contractural commit-
ment. So I'm saying yes, we'll extend/ terms based on their performance.
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MERRITT
HANNAH
PELLEGRINO
MERRITT
HANNAH
PELLEGRINO
MERRITT
PELLEGRINO
2-15-83 Dict 2 Pg. 19
Reg CC Mtg.
If they do what they say they're going to do and provide that service
then I have no objection to extending the terms, but an extension of
time notwithstanding, I think what's important is for the Council to
direct our attention to how and when and wherefor ,they're going to
build the rest of the City. If we leave it to them, then you have no
complaints whatsoever if it takes them six years to build even one
block more than what they've got now. If you just turn it over to
them, then that's your responsibility.
We would welcome that opportunity, Councilman Dring, to establish that
schedule with you. I
I still haven't got an answer to my question. There's been so much
verbiage, but nobody has told me when, they are going to'commence adding
cable to south Arcadia. '
Is there anyone from the firm that can give us a commitment date on
the work from - on south Arcadia, when that will start?
Again, I think - I don't want to make it sound like we keep throwing the
ball back to you gentlemen, but we are ready to move now, and we're only
asking whether you're telling us to go ahead at this point or whether
you are asking us to negotiate some points as Councilman Dring discussed.
I feel that in fairness to you and the residents of Arcadia, we do need
to clarify it before we proceed. Councilman Hannah, I hope that answered
your question. We are ready to go, we simply ask for, that clarification
from you.
You have a contract that calls for you to provide service to all of the
City of Arcadia! understand that still has six years to go. The people
are saying "When are we going to get the service?" and that's the answer
I'm looking for tonight. For when they ask me that question. Tell m~ thnt
you're going to start next month and that they can anticipate service
within six months, or nine months, or a year, a year and a half. Give me
some answers. You have a contract. I don't know why we have to even
discuss it at this time.
John, are you anticipating that we are taking your contract away from you?
No sir, no, we're not.
Then you have six years to perform the duties that you would hope to
perform. As I hear it, and as I see, the last four years of cable TV
we had nothing. The last four months we've had not only a promise but
they've carried out their promises to the north side of our City. We
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MERRITT
PELLEGRINO
HALTOM
I
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HALTOM
WATTS
PELL EGR I NO
MERRITT
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2-15-83 Dict 2 Pg. 20
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are Councilmen that represent the whole city. In effect, you have six
years to complete your job and I'm sure the more people you put on your .
cable or your trunk line or whatever you have, the more dues are paid
to your company, and you are just as interested in getting to the south
end and the north end and east and west as we wouid hope you would be.
Yes, we are.
Any other questions, Gentlemen? Mr. Haltom -
To answer your question, I think it's "yes" on both.
isn't that true? I think yes, we want you to proceed with southern 'Arcadia,
and yes, we want to negotiate. I agree with Councilman Dring that
based on performance, you know, I wouldn't mind extending it based on
performance. So I think it's "yes" on both, so far as I'm concerned.
I concur with the comments Councilman Dring just made. I think he really
underscored staff's whole intended procedure. And I would highly recom-
mend that the City Council do not ask Group W to proceed wi€~li~~n~est of
the City until we can revise the franchise ordinance irrespective of the
term of that ordinance. I concur with Councilman Dring. I don't think
we ought to extend the term now; however, if we ask Group W to proceed
now with building the rest of the City, we do not have good enough
penalty provisions; we have no time schedules; we do not even have
adequate output specifications in the current franchise ordinance that
will give us much in the way of leverage to get the kind of system,
quality of reception that the City Council and staff wants and expects
for the citizens of Arcadia.
I know what you're saying, George, but from the legal standpoint, we
can't stop them.
I think that Group W throughout, since they took over from Teleprompter,
their position has been they would prefer that before th~proceed to
build the rest of the City, that we have a new franchise ordinance in
place. I think that was again stated this evening - if not explicitly,
at least impl icitly.
Is that you opinion, John?
That is correct. That is exactly our position.
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PELLEGRINO
MERRITT
DRING
PELLEGRINO
2-15-83 Dict 2 Pg. 21
Reg. CC Mtg.
I wou 1 d recommend tha t Group W get with staff and come back wi th a
report of the recommendation that you're intending to give us.
We would be pleased to do this.
~s~r$eStjlthigntggr~~~~~t gf~~~n~he-hearing is closed?
[Undecipherable]. Thank you, gentlemen. Anyone else in the audience
in favor of this item on the agenda? Please state your name and
address.
'I'm Laudel Ludwig. I live at 1085 Singing Wood Drive. I'm a I
director and a member of the San Gabriel Valley Amateur Radio Club;
it's local here in Arcadia. We have met with you before to bring to
you the fact that many cable installations throughout the country have
been improperly installed resulting in considerable cable leakage, both
affecting TV reception and to the amateurs as well as City and other
public types of radio communication. So this has resulted in fines
substantial for cable companies and have made Councilmen and City
Managers' lives very miserable. In the earlier days they did not take
this factor into consideration when they were making the contracts with
the cable companies. So our group has met with'you before here in
Council sessions, and it was recommended that we have a private or a
small meeting between some of the City employees, Group W employees,
and our group, which we've done. We worked out some wording wh~ch has
been i nc 1 uded' in the proposed contract that you probab ly ha ve today.
I picked up my copy about 4 o'clock today, and except for one sentence
that was inadvertently left out, and I brought it to Mr. Bocian's
attention and he said there is no problem at all with inserting it, and
I wanted you folks to know that the radio amateurs feel that as far as
we're concerned, you have the necessary precautions to keep such inter-
ference from happening, or if it does happen, to take care of it. So
we're happy with the agreement. Also, should, hopefully, it will never
occur, should such interference occur, San Gabriel Valley Group is
available for the City's or cable company's services to help work out
any of these problems should they arise. Thank you.
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PERRY COPE
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Thank you, Mr. Ludwig. Anyone else in the audience in favor of this
item? Anyone in the audience opposed to this item on the agenda?
My name is Perry Cope. I live at 1231 San Carlos Road, two blocks north
of Foothill, in the area which I understand is supposed to be completely
taken care of by now. I'd just like to read a little bit of the history
of my own personal dealings with Group W. December 22nd I ordered the
full program of services from Group W. I was promised service by
December 29th. On that date a service man did come to check out my
system. He removed the box that I had from Teleprompter which pro-
vided me some show time from Sierra Madre affiliate. He did nothing
else to my set. He promised me that he would have a box with the full
Group W services by December 30th ,- the next day. He also informed me
at the time that the cable reception for my area was defective and
it would be impossible to pick up good reception without replacing
the cable. No one showed up on the 30th, 31st or thereafter.
I finally called them again on January 8th, scheduled service.
Services scheduled. No one showed up. They were called again on
January 10th. Service was promised for January 12th. A tech rep
showed up without a box. I called again on the 13th. Box was promised
again. They said they didn't have it, and that was the end of that
conversation, so I finally called Mrs. Faust here, the General Manager,
told her I had been several weeks without service and I was getting a
run-around, would like to know what was going on. She was very'
empathetic to my problem, and promised that I would receive service
January 18th. On January 18th a man came with 3 converter sets for the
3 TV's that I have to hook up, again informed me that the cable was not
operating, it was deficient, and the service really could not be per-
formed. The day after that the Sales Manager called me - I don't recall
his name - he also promised that they were going to take care of these
things for me. January 24th two new people showed up in vans which
were not designated as being Group W; I don't know where they were from.
They had 3 more converters. They didn't fix the cable and they didn't
hook up the converter boxes. January 27th service came again, climbed
the poles in my back yard, said they were going to check out the cables
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2-15-83 T2 Pg. 23
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and run in new cable lines, and again recommended that the cable lines
be replaced. Now, this was about the third or fourth time I'd heard
that and I'm still waiting, for them to do the job that they've already
identified as a problem. They brought 3 more converter boxes with them,
which they couldn't hook up. About January 28th a quality control man
shows up to check out how my system is operating. I wish I had been
home to tell him how it was operating. He thought the job was complete.
He wanted to check the boxes again, which obviously were not working,
and recommended that we have cable wiring done. I think this was the I
fourth time this was recommended now. He's telling me the problem.
Since that date we have had silence from Group W Cable. We called them
on February 2nd - no response. We called them on February' 11th - no
response. We called them February 16th - today - and we're still waiting
for somebody to come out and take,care of. this problem. Now this is the
way they've taken care of north Arcadia. Now, before they move south, I
think they ought to live up to their obligations for north. Today we
called again and some lady who answered the phone recommended we talk to
the Sales Department, and get the proper service, and I am sure in favor
of that, because we haven't got_it yet. In summary, I guess my comments,
first of all they haven't fulfilled the commitment n9rth of Foothill
Boulevard. I heard these words tonight but I haven't seen any action.
They obviously do not communicate with each other. There is no follow-up
on problems. They do not keep records on what they are telling each
of the customers. We have been constantly referred to the Sales Department
which is empathetic but can't help us. After two months I don't even have
the basic service that I started with in December when I asked them to
change the service to the full service. I can't even get Show Time, which
I used to get from Teleprompter. in Sierra Madre. We have no response, no
information, no follow-through, and in general, outside of Mrs. Faust,
empathetic attitude - a don't care attitude. I don't know where you go
with this. My personal opinion, and maybe I'm an isolated case, they're
unable to service the area. They're sure unable to service me. And I
hope that I receive the service that Mr. Lojeski has gotten. I'd love to
have good service but I haven't received it yet, and before they move
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(cont'd)
PELLEGRINO
HANNAH
DRING:
PELLEGRINO
DRING
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HANNAH
DRING
HANNAH
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south I think they ought to take care of the problems north. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Cope. Anyone else in the audience who'd like to address
this item on the agenda? Gentlemen-
I MOVE the public hearing be CLOSED.
Second.
The public hearing is CLOSED. Any comments, Gentlemen?
May I? Gentlemen, I would suggest it's in our best interest to proceed
to negotiate the contract with them. The terms and conditions can be
specified as to whether or not you want to extend. You know, hardly any
of us are in favor of that - that's not the point. We need, in my
opinion, to request to require a build-out schedule with penalties there-
to, and if indeed they can perform under some time frame, then I don't
have a problem with extending the franchise downstream. It's not only
practical to them in terms of justifying their cost expenditures, but
the truth is, as Dick points out, you don't have a choice. They've got
the City locked. Now, to tell them to go ahead and build, "you have the
current contract," why tha t 's true, you know, that provi des no benefits,
it requires no time frame and no performance. We have an opportunity and
they're willing to comply - it's a two-way street. We want to exact some
performance, and clearly it's about time. On the other hand, they're
saying, fine, if we do we extend our franchise terms. I find that a
mutually beneficial package provided everyone holds up their enp. So
I recommend we tell staff to provide the franchise agreement to Group W
for review and bring back their comments, and we should indeed move
with great haste, well some expediency, anyway, into putting that into
some effect.
I'm still back at the same stand: I want to see them comply with the
terms of their contract now and then when they do I'll talk about
changing it. I don't want to change it in any way until such time as
they comply with the terms of their contract, and do what they said
they were going to do. The fact that they took over Teleprompter's
contract is of no consequence to me -
Agreed.
They have 1 arge
were doing, and
legal
until
staffs; I'm sure they knew exactly what they
they comply with this agreement I don't think
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we have to waste our staff's time drawing new agreements.
A couple questions. One is, any time we send things back for review
they seem to take months - weeks - years - whatever. I'd be curious
to know what time frame we are looking at. And I also don't understand
why, if 96% - I believe that's the number that was given to us - the
pole rights have been negotiated, why they cannot continue to go. If
they feel that they've been doing such a super job and they're showing
the City exactly what great people they are and what great service
they've been giving those people now north of Foothill Boulevard, why
they cannot continue at least in a diligent fashion now extending that
service to other areas of the City while we're negotiating this par-
ticular entity. I also, and I don't think I've ever stated this, I'm
against, obviously, changing the extension of times and that sort of
thing. I don't even want to talk about that. But something that's
going to be a better contract for the City and a better contract for
cable television, yes. Why can't they be done in conjunction? I'm
getting the feeling that all of a sudden we're kind of backed into a
corner here with Group W saying it's either-or type of thing. I don't
like Group W telling me what to do any more. I think it's about time
that the City explains and puts their foot down and says, "Hey, Group W,
you know, this is a two-way street, we're going to tell you how it's
goi ng to operate."
Well, Mr. Lojeski. If we, and I don't know anything about electronics,
so I'm going to make up some terms. If we tell them we want a 60 widgit
system and they're starting to install a 50 widgit system, they're
installing something that is unacceptable to us. Shouldn't we reach
that agreement before they start installing it. I mean, if we decide
it's got to be a 60, based on our technical expert's advice, then we
want them to agree it should bea 60 and for them to install a 60. Why
would you just turn them loose and say, "Start building something -
whatever it is, no matter how good it is, and we'll discuss the terms
and conditions and technical requirements on an on~going basis"?
Are you telling me that what they've installed north of Arcadia is
potentially wrong?
Yes, you could - certainly.
addresses very specifically technical requirements, and I
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George, have theY"reviewed it? No. They haven't seen it, is that
correct? They haven't seen it. It may well be that indeed their
system doesn't meet the tactical standards that our consultants say
they ought to put in and don't accept anything less. It's about time
I think we showed it to them and got an agreement. I think we're
being self-defeating.
I'd like to add a comment and not whip a dead horse to death like we're
doing, Gentlemen. I'd like to say that there's nobody more up-to-date
on what's out there to offe,r the other cities than Group W. There's
other cities throughout the Country that Dennis and'I have gone to
seminars where that same system has 60 channels, 150 channels"I forget
what the number of channels; the ,high sChoo,l, the, library, the Council
meetings, also a security alarm that's hooked, to the same system that's
put through the house on that system. I don't think we have to tell them
their job. I think they should tailor their program to the City of
Arcadia as well as any other city has been tailored to offer their
things, and I would hope, by reading this, we received this tonight,
Tom,and Rusty, and I really didn't have - we don't have time to consume
all of this anyhow. But I would hope that you have put the necessary
carrot in front of the horse in front of the Council to give the City
as much as you possibly give us through cable TV. If there is any
better cable TV we would hope that you offer that to the City of Arcadia
as well as you're doing in other cities. And I don't think we should
make a decision. I agree wich you, Jeff. ,They have six years. They
could perform three years, and with the credibility they've achieved
in four months, which is almost impossible, I don't see any reason why
we would withhold any extension to some organization or any corporation
that,'would have the total telephone wires hook--up already com-,
menced. I just think they have a heck of a job to do. They've done a
job in four months and they've got six years to prove to us they they're
going to give us a number one c3ble TV and I'm sure they're going to do
it. Mr. Dring -
Mr. Mayor, I ~'OVE that we direct staff to present the draft of the cable
TV franchis~ ordinance, which none of us have seen - we all should note
that too - but, pr~,ent that draft to Group W for their comments and let
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us review it and I think we should move with the general guideline that
we would like to reach an acceptable agreement as expediently as possible.
Is that a MOTION?
Yes, that's a MOTION.
Any discussion, Gentlemen? There's a MOTION on the floor. Is it the
consensus of the Council?
Roll call.
a second.
Yes, Mr. Haltom, second.
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AYES Dring, Haltom
NOES Hannah, lojeski
And Pelllegrino?
Would you repeat your motion, Jeff?
Yes, essentially, the heart of what I'm trying to say is that we should:
one, present this draft to the franchise to Group W for their comments
but more particularly - two - we want to reach agreement with them based
on the technical advice from our consu'ltants so that we can - so that they
can proceed to build south Arcadia as quickly and as rapidly as possible,
and meet our requirements.
Yes.
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