HomeMy WebLinkAboutNOVEMBER 2,1970
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ARCADIA CITY COUNCIL and ARCADIA BOARD OF EDUCATION
NOVEMBER 2, 1970
The City Council and the Board of Education of the Arcadia Unified
School District met in joint session on November 2, 1970, at 8 p.m.,
in the Council Chambers of the Arcadia City Hall.
School Board President, Dr. Gary L. Mills
School Board Member, Dr. Antone W. Nisson
PRESENT: COUNCIL - Councilmen Arth, Considine, Hage, Helms, Butterworth
SCHOOL BOARD - Frempter, Goebel, Harvey, Mills, Nisson
ABSENT: NONE
On behalf of the City Council, Mayor Butterworth welcomed the opportunity
to meet with the School Board to discuss common goals and objectives in
an endeavor to preserve the separate identity and separate integrity of
the two political institutions.
On behalf of the School Board,President Mills agreed that the meeting
offers a rare opportunity to discuss matters of mutual concern - apart
from the usual business before the Board at its regular meetings.
REFERENCE MADE TO ORDINANCE NO" 1417 which, in the event five vacancies
should occur on the Council, provides for the continuity of the Council
by the appointment of the School Board to serve until newly elected
Councilmen are installed following a Special Election. The Board had
previously expressed its willingness to accept this responsibility.
PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES. Mayor Butterworth referred to some
instances of joint cooperation, 1) Bonita Park where the land is
owned by the City and leased to the District with' the improvements
those of the District, 2) Baldwin Stocker Park where the land is
owned by the District and the improvements constructed by the City
and 3) Hugo Reid Park, where City land is used by the District.
The City Manager explored the current situation at the Camino Grove
site where the City has purchased four lots (one from the District) with
the thought that they could be developed into a playground-park facility
and used jointly. He submitted that a plan has been discussed whereby
the City's open area could be developed now and as school funds become
available, perhaps the District could rehabilitate some of its tennis
courts. For instance, at Foothill, Dana Jr High Schools and Holly Avenue
School. He explained the plans call for improvement of fallow land into
a softball diamond planted in grass, parking lot and recreational items.
These, along with the resurfaced tennis courts, would be available, to
all persons after school hours. Both the City Manager and the School
Superintendent will obtain approximate costs for these improvements.
In anSWer to a query by Dr. Mills, the City Manager stated in part that
the City endeavors to maintain its vacant city owned property free of
weeds but with as little expenditure as possible.
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In light of the fact that the City uses District facilities for its
recreational programs, Dr. Nisson submitted the possibility of the
City assuming the maintenance of city parks which are adjacent to
schools. This maintenance is now performed hy the District. Dr.
Mills supported this possibility and commented in part that although
funds are derived from the same taxpayers, it is essential that
responsibility be properly placed, and in his opinion it would appear
that the City has more capital for this type of function that the
District.
Dr, Ryan then summarized the current agreements between the two 1
bodies; Bonita Park and Hugo Reid Park - City owned and developed,
District maintained; Baldwin Stocker Park - District owned and
maintained, City developed; High School swimming pool - constructed
with the City paying 1/3 and the District 2/3, maintained and operated
by the District during the school year and by the City during the
summer; that in those instances where the City recreation program
uses the facility during the school year the City pays $5 per hour
to the District. Concerning the tennis courts the City pays for the
lighting and receives the revenue from the coin operated controls
for night playing. He continued in part that all school grounds are
used by the City Recreation Department during the school year and the
summer months - at no cost to the City; the District also provides
some bussing during the summer for the Department. In conclusion, he
referred to a recent agreement wherein the District leased land from
the City for its Continuation School Program.
The City Manager expanded the subject to some extent - that the City
provides 16 bleachers at the Junior High Schools, a trainer for the
football team; that it has relined the tennis courts, replaced tennis
nets, some benches at the High School courts and provides personnel
for the City recreation programs. He also commented that the two
jurisdictions work together in a most cooperative spirit for its
common goals.
Mr. Harvey submitted that a definitive study should be made to
ascertain the exact use of the various facilities and by which agency,
thus being placed in a better position to adjust the tax base if the
study so indicates.
Dr. Nisson referred to the City owned land which has been leased to
the District for its Continuation School Program and observed in part
that the District will be clearing the area for construction and asked
that the City consider amending the subject agreement to call for $1 per
year instead of the $120 per month. He expressed appreciation to the
City for its assistance but reminded Council that the District does not
have the various avenues of revenue which are available to the City.
In brief reference to the proposed improvements at the Camino Grove 1
site Mr. Goebel stated in part that funds just may not be available
for resurfacing the tennis courts; that perhaps the plan could be
made contingent on that aspect, otherwise he is favorable.
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Both administrators agreed that cost estimates could be readily prepared.
It was the consensus of the two jurisdictions that each staff conduct
a study of the use of the various facilities to determine which agency
has the greater use with a view if indicated toward possible readjustment
of the cost responsibility.
POSSIBILITY OF JOINT GROUNDS MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. It was noted that both agencies
maintain its grounds on a contract ural basis and thought has been given
administratively to the possibility of going out to bid together with
a view toward obtaining a more attractive price, however, the contractor
would be responsible to the District and the City independently. It was
agreed that this matter should also be reviewed and a study made.
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POSSIBILITY OF RELOCATING THE DISTRICT'S MAINTENANCE YARD. Councilman Considine led
the discussion on this matter by stating in part that he favors combining
the Santa Clara facilities with the City Yard located near the railroad
between Third and Fifth Avenues. Under this arrangement the City and
District facilities would be consolidated as well as the two staffs
assigned there. The former parcel is owned by the District and is used
for bus maintenance and storage at the present time. He felt the City
Yard could be expanded if need be and that the equipment would then be
available and capable of handling maintenance which the District now
assumes; that if such a merger came about a very valuable property
would be available for sale to industry thereby placing it back on the
tax rolls. He concluded with the observation that if there is not
sufficient space at the City Yard perhaps more land could be obtained in
the same area.
Mr. Ha~vey expressed concern as to whether or not city facilities were
equipped for maintenance of the heavy school busses and Dr. Ryan spoke
to the question of priority, i. e., when a bus breaks down it must be
repaired immediately. He commented that some of the School's rolling
stock is in need of mechanical attention due in part to the vintage of
some vehicles. He also spoke of the storage problem and noted that the
District has been investigating the possibility of relocating the storage
yard with a view toward selling the present property on Rolyn Place which
step might prove economically sound for the District and would provide
funds for the relocation. Dr. Ryan also observed that it would be to
the District's advantage to have both the transportation storage and
maintenance under one roof and expressed concern once more on the subject
of priority for maintenance if City facilities were used. It was sub-
mitted that perhaps more manpower would be needed and Mr. Harvey commented
that the first step would be to make a study of economic factors versus
negatives; that in his opinion the suggestion has merit.
In answer to an inquiry, Dr. Ryan stated in part that there is no 'target
date' for relocation but there would almost have to be a bond issue to
implement the purchase of excess freeway property land which is being
considered by the District and is currently available through the State.
Some discussion ensued on whether or not the move could be made without
a bond issue and it was submitted that perhaps a buyer could be found
who would execute a contract of sale and the "incoming money could be
so scheduled and the move could be made accordingly. It was also
suggested that other locations could be investigated; that there is
city-owned land which could be considered. The City Manager will
furnish the District with a list of the latter.
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MUTUAL CONCERNS REGARDING PUBLIC AND SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION. Dr. Frempter stated in part
that he is well aware of the public demand on school transportation and
expressed interest in hearing what demands have been made on the City for
public transportation and whether or not the City has considered any type
of public transportation for the benefit of local residents. If so, might
not those who ride the public vehicles to school pay their own way which
could virtually get the District out of the transportation business and
go a long way to reducing this budget item. The City Manager advised
that the city staff is currently making a study of a mini-bus possibility
serving a very simple route through the city, perhaps Santa Anita Avenue
and parallel streets; that to date a City has not been located operating
a bus system without a subsidy.
Mr. Harvey spoke to a dual purpose transportation arrangement for both
the elderly and the school children. Mayor Butterworth commented there
is indeed a special problem with the elderly but that transportation has
never been considered by Council and he questioned the advisability of
establishing such a service in a City the size of Arcadia. Dr. Mills
concurred with Dr. Frempter and suggested that the City remain sensitive
to the suggestion as it is much closer to areas,of transportation systems
than the District. Mr. Goebel referred to a study made in the City of
San Marino and suggested that contact be made with the specific Company.
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Mayor Butterworth observed that Council will indeed be sensitive to the
suggestion but the wea of public transportation operated by the City
is one to which he would not look forward, this being a very mobile
community. Dr. Nisson referred to the few persons using the Transit
System which currently runs through the City and in answer to an inquiry
Dr. Ryan stated in part that legally the District cannot lease its
busses; that there is very little time when they are not in use with
the exception of perhaps two or three hours during the middle of the day.
POSSIBILIlY OF DISTRICT UTILIZING CITY'S NATURAL GAS FUELING FACILITIES" The City 1
Manager explained in summary the procedure used by the City in converting
some of its vehicles to dual fuel capacity utilizing natural gas; that
the first six dual kits were provided without charge and the subject
company might do the same for the District. He estimated the savings
at about $200 per vehicle per year; that in addition to helping the
smog problem the economical aspect is important to also consider and
invited the District to consider the conversipn of some of its vehicles.
FUNCTIONS OF
GENERAL
PLAN
BASEBALL
DIAMONDS
Dr. Ryan referred to the District's equipment consisting of 13 gasoline
vehicles and 5 diesel vehicles and expressed interest in the substantial
savings which could be realized by thus converting and at the same time
contributing to the improvement of the smog hazard. Copies of city
reports in this regard will be furnished the School Superintendent.
CITY YOUTH COMMISSION. Councilman Hage, liaison to the said commission,
reported on the progress made by this fairly new commission; that
elections for this year have been completed, new by-laws have been
formulated; that it is working on a budget for the first time and is
endeavoring to create a list of community activities. He noted that
at the last meeting the purpose of the External Affairs Committee was
explored and it was emphasized that it originates from the Youth
Commission not the School. It was noted in particular that it is a
City Commission operating the same as all other City Boards and
Commissions, its elected members are ratified by the Council and all
of its actions must also be approved by the Council. Dr. Nisson
submitted that the Commission should aim its direction to City problems
and not speak for the School. It was also noted that there is no direct
relationship between the Youth Commission and Path, Inc., which is a
non-profit corporation.
Irvin I. Livingston, 1927 Highland Oaks Drive, Chairman of the City
Planning Commission, referred to the General Plan which is being
prepared by Simon Eisner, Inc., Consultants. He urged the School
Board to study the report when available and submit its thinking
before or during the forthcoming public hearings.
James Smith, 1919 Highland Oaks Drive, President of the Arcadia Boys I
Baseball, consisting of boys between 13 and 16 who play on the Pinto,
Pony and Colt Leagues. He spoke to the dire need of land to accommodate
eight more diamonds. He urged the two jurisdictions to consider this
in the studies which are to be made as a result of this meeting. Mr.
Smith was advised to also appear before the Recreation Commission at
its next meeting to be held November 18.
Mrs. Arthur W. Reiter, 210 W. Orange Grove Avenue, suggested combining
the City Youth Commission and Path, Inc., that from her observation
it appears that the former needs good leadership and the latter ,needs
funds. She also submitted that perhaps Some land in the Chicago Park
area could be utilized for the baseball activities to which Mr. Smith
referred.
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JET
AIRCRAFT
PATH, INC.
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Dale Spickler, 123 W. La Sierra Drive, read a draft of a proposed
resolution to eliminate the noise created by jet aircraft over the
Foothill Cities. He asked Council to seriously consider the adoption
thereof,
Jerry Bernstein, 245 W. Colorado Boulevard, advised that the Youth
Commission just today agreed to assist Path in the formation of a
Youth Board for its Teen-Center. He stated in part that there are
reasons why the two should not' be combined, 1) the Youth Commission
coordinates activities for the youth of the City and makes recommenda-
tions therefor, whereas 2) Path is a non-profit organization which
has expenses which would have to be assumed by the City. For instance,
the monthly rent, its Hot Line Program (telephone) and other necessities.
He continued that the main problem is the lack of adult assistance -
volunteers - in the area of chaperones for the activities of Path. He
noted that an endeavor is now being made to interest local service
clubs, churches, etc. He stated that Robert Bonsack will soon present
a detailed report to the City Council.
Mrs. John R. Stahr, 214 E. Pamela Road, referred to the need of
programming for Path, and submitted the possibility of inviting
persons on a professional level to arrange programs and the like.
At Councilman Helms' suggestion the Path problem will be placed on the
agenda for the next Recreation Commission meeting. Mayor Butterworth
observed that surely the adult population of this City can meet this
need.
Dr. Frempter stated in part that in his op~n~on joint meetings of this
nature will be of interest to all taxpayers with the hope that
possibly something can be done to reduce rising taxes by endeavoring
to solve mutual problems. Mr. Goebel thanked Council for the
opportunity of meeting in this manner. Dr. Mills concurred and
submitted further the hope that the resolution presented by Mr.
Spickler would receive Council's favorable consideration.
Mayor Butterworth thanked the Board and interested persons in the
audience for their attendance and stated in part that Council does
reQognize the fact that property tax is the sole source of revenue
fo~ the District whereas the City has other avenues of revenue and
that Council will be mindful of all observations presented by the
Board.
At 9:50 p.m., Mayor Butterworth and President Mills adjourned the
me~ting sine die.
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Mayor
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Ch~istine Van Maanen
City Clerk
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