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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFEBRUARY 5,1985_2 25:1147 CITY COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS ARE TAPE RECORDED AND ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK I INVOCATION PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL MINUTE APPROVAL Jan. 22,1985 (APPROVED) ORD. & RES. READ BY TITLE ONLY I l. PUBLIC HEARING Text Amend- ment 84-7 Reta il Sales in Se If-Serv. Gas Stations p..1l' MINUTES CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ARCADIA and the l\P.CADL~ REDEVEI.OPMENT AGENCY REGULAR MEETI NG FEBRUARY 5, 1985 The City Council of the City of Arcadia and the Arcadia Redevelopment Agency met in a regular session Tuesday, February 5, 1985 at 7:30 p.m. in the Arcadia City Hall Council Chamber. Rev. Gladys Johnson, Victory Chapel, Church of The Foursqure Gospel Mayor Pro Tempore Pellegrino PRESENT: Councilmembers Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and Hannah ABSENT: None It was MOVED by Councilmember Lojeski, seconded by Councilmember Gilb and CARRIED on roll call vote as follows that the Minutes of the Adjourned and Regular meetings of January 22, 1985 be APPROVED. AYES: NOES: ABSTAIN: ABSENT: Councilmembers Gilb, Lojeski, Young and Hannah None Councilmember Pellegrino - was not present at 1/22/85 Meeting None It was MOVED by Councilmember Young, seconded by Councilmember Pellegrino and so ordered that all ordinances and resolutions be read by title only. Consideration of Text Amendment 84-7 requesting amendment of the . Arcadia Municipal Code to provide regulations to allow 210 square feet of retail sales area in a service or self-service gasoline station (continued from 1/22/85). Staff report presented in which it was recommended that alcoholic beverages be prohibited. Councilmember Gilb referred to a communica- tion from the Los Angeles County Alcohol Commisssion asking that this type of request be rejected. Mayor Hannah declared the hearing open. Don Wilson, Real Estate Representative for Atlantic Richfield Company, 300 W. Glenoaks Blvd., Glendale, CA., stated, in part, that at the last meeting they were asked to come back with some guidelines which they are doing. They are asking for conversion of the dealer's office (210 sq. ft.) to sales of snack items (soft drinks, candy, nuts, gum, chips, etc.) ... these are permitted now if sold through vending machines. They are asking that the provision that all such items be sold through vending machines be removed. They do not intend to sell alcoholic beverages, magazines, periodicals or other such items. As to the concern expressed that another dealer might apply for an alcoholic permit, it was stated that a text amendment is before Council at this time and it would carry the restriction which would apply to all gas stations in the City. 2/5/85 -1- 25: 1148 The method of keeping the shelves stocked was explored. ~ During this consideration, Makram Gharib) Arco Station at Baldwin and Las Tunas, explained that they have an extra person to handle this -- not the gasoline attendant ... however, stocking only has to be done once every day which can be done in the morning or late in the evening. He,-b Fletcher, 175 VI. Lemon Avenue reminded Council that he had . .c' spoken to this particular item previously and brought to their attention the fact that the sales tax on gasoline provides a source of considerable revenue to the City. He reiterated that the City I should encourage gas stations to continue operating in the City. He felt that the provision of non-sale of alcoholic beverages was .. discriminatory. Grocery stores sell alcoholic beverages of all kinds and probably 99% of the customers drive to the market and will drive away. There are all kinds of liquor stores in the City -- one is even a drive-in liquor store. Does not see the necessary correlation between drinking and driving and the sale of beer at gas stations. Ed Schreimer, 5 VI. Foothill Blvd.) Arco Station, stated, in part, That the sale of convenience items c'reates no problems of attendants not paying attention to the gas pumps because the station is computer- ized -- in the event of an emergency of any kind, the pumps are automatically closed down. The cashier can also control this from inside the station. The stockin~ of the merchandise is done in the late evening or early morning so attendants are not diverted from attending to the service islands. He does not and does not wish to sell alcoholic beverages -- only convenience items. All stations that have computerized equipment have emergency switches. Mr. Wilson stated that, with regard to safety, he,has a letter from the National Fire Protection Association affirming the effectiveness of this equip- ment in providing fire safety. Councilmember Gilb raised the question of the age of attendants in service stations with regard to sale of alcoholic beverages. Staff report pointed out that there is an effort to raise the age to 18, but the bill has not yet passed the State Legislature. Councilmember Pellegrino stated that persons under age can sell alcoholic beverages in restaurants if 75% of their job is to sell food. It was MOVED by Councilmember Gilb, seconded by Councilmember Lojeski and CARRIED on roll call vote as follows that the public hearing be closed. AYES: NOES; ABSENT: Councilmembers Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and Hannah None None Further discussion ensued regarding the safety factors in the event of an emergency situation and the value of an automatic shut-off SWitCh.I' \ It was MOVED by Councilmember Gilb, seconded by Councilmember Pellegrino and CARRIED on roll call vote as follows to approve and file the Negative Declaration and find that the project will not have a significant effect on the environment and direct the City Attorney to prepare the appropriate ordinance for introduction with restriction of sale of alcoholic beverages and magazines and periodicals and a gasoline pump shut-off switch inside the building. AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Councilmembers Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and Hannah None None 2/5/85 -2- 25:1149 I 2. PUBLIC Consideration of Tentative Map of Tract No. 43882 for a proposed HEARING eight-lot single family subdivision at 1019-1031 S. Eighth Avenue. Tract No. The site is presently developed with seven dwellings and it is zoned 43882 R-1. All of the existing buildings would be removed. The Planning (Tentative Commission recommended approval subject to conditions spelled out in Map) the staff report dated February 5, 1985. One of the conditions con- APPROVED, cerned tr.ee replacement. ~r,........ Mayor Hannah declared the hearing open and Jack Schmitt, 1153 Altura A' ~ ~.1 . Terrace,representing Mur-So1, Inc., the developing company said, in .\ ( yo',)'" part, that they intend to keep as many trees as possible, There are \ \\ about 50 trees and if they had to rep1ace so many, they would have ~':'(C\ such small areas for 1awns. Council member Young said she had visited ~~~ the site and agreed that if all the trees remained or were replaced, 1'\ there wou1d be a forest there. Dan Grohs) 43 E. Huntington Drive, \; one of the developers, said he wOUTd-rTke to be able to use his own judgement about replacing the trees ... he had no problem with the other stipu1ation that a block wall be constructed a10ng the north, south and west boundary of the subdivision. The hearing was CLOSED on MOTION by Counci1member Lojeski, seconded , by Counci1member Pellegrino and CARRIED on roll ca11 vote as fo110ws: , , AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Counc il members None None Gi1b, Lojeski, Pe11egrino, Young and Hannah , " Discussion ensued centering mainly on the matter of the trees and/or the replacement of the trees removed for construction. It was MOVED, . by Counci1member Lojeski, seconded by Counci1member Young and CARRIED on r011 ca11 vote as follows that the evaluations of the environmental impacts as set forth in the initial study are appropriate; that the project will not have a significant effect on the environment; that the Negative Declaration be approved and filed; that the subdivision, together with the provisions for its design and improvement, is consist- ent with the Arcadia General Plan; that the discharge of sewage into the public sewer system will not violate requirements prescribed by the California Regional Water Quality Control Board for this region; that the Director of Public Works be authorized to approve and execute the subdivision agreement and that the proposed project be APPROVED subject to the construction of a block wall along the north, south and west boundary of the tract and that the tree replacement be to the satisfaction of the Planning Directo~. ',f. .::-~ " AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Counci1members Gi1b, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and Hannah ' None None " BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS The decision on the use of the remaining Olympic funds was continued to this date from January 22. Gordon Penhar10w responded to questions and Counci1member Gi1b said, ,in part, that he is still of the opinion that there are'. a great many,.peop1e 'who. had', worked diligently, but were not to be named. He felt they may feel hurt and/or slighted. He referred to a 1 etter from Ray Rogers ,who was on the Commi ss i on, sugges t-:, i ng some changes in the wordi ng of the p1 aque. Mr. Gi 1 b had brought ' '", .., a small equestrian statue as a sample which tou1d be purchased at 1ess than what the Commission is'proposing. He suggested that the plaque be placed somewhere inside as Los Angeles had many of its plaques pried off and stolen. ,"/ \ 2/5/85 " -3~ ~\, ~.", ;. 4. 5. 5a. ROLL CALL 5b. MINUTE APPROVAL Ja n. 22 ,1985 (APPROVED) 5c. DESIGN REVIEW (GREENSCAPES) 126 E. St. Joseph St. (APPROVED) '}-o... .:V ~'\ ~ \~ 25:1150 Mr. Penharlow said, in part,that they had endeavored to add names of those who had devoted time and effort, but were not compensated i n a ny way. Councilmember Lojeski submitted, in part, that he felt the Commission had done a commendable jOb and had reached conclusion of a very difficult problem. He felt the 5K - 10K runners should be named, the sponsors should be named as proposed by the Commission, the I Essay Competition winners should be named and where it says "Santa Anita Park and the hundreds of volunteers from Arcadia", it should be changed to read, "Santa Anita Park and the Hundreds of Volunteers from the Arcadia Community" ... and that portion be in bolder letters so it may stand out. Councilmember Young agreed with Councilmember Lojeski and also felt that some of the remaining funds should be used to replace the Americll!1 Flags donated by the ~nerican Legion which had been stolen. It was MOVED by Councilmember Lojeski, seconded by Councilmember Young and CARRIED on roll call vote as follows that the recommenda- tions of the Olympic Commission be accepted; that a portion of the funds be used to replace the flags which were stolen which had been donated by the Arcadia American Legion Post No. 247; and that the remaining funds be placed in the Recreation Facilities Fund toward some Olympic-type endeavor. AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Councilmembers Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and Hannah Councilmember Gilb None Council recessed in order to act as the ARCADIA REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY PRESENT: Members Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino, Young and Hannah ABSENT: None On MOTION by Member Pellegrino, seconded by Member Young and so ordered, the Minutes of the Regular Meeting of January 22, 1985 were APPROVED. Member Pellegrino abstained since he was not present at the January 22, 1985 meeting. Consideration of the Design Review for a proposed office/warehouse I building for Greenscapes at 126 E. St. Joseph Street. Staff report reyiewed in which it was recommended for approval subject to specific conditions. .' Steven Schober, President of Greenscapes, a landscaping firm, has appl ied for a building permit. The City Council on October 14, 1984 approved a modification for 8,000 sq. ft."in lieu of the required 15,000 sq. ft. Inasmuch as the property is located in the Central Redevelopment Project area, the Agency must approve or disapprove the Design Review before a building permit may be issued. In response to Mr. Schober's question as to what would happen to h~s property in the event it was taken for redevelopment, staff advlsed, in part, that there would be two appraisals and the Agency could pay no less than the lowest appraisal. Mr. Schober would also be eligibl~ for relocation expenses to a suitable site -- somewhere in the community at large -- not necessarily in Arcadia. It was also pointed out by staff that the property would be subject to eminent domain. 2/5/85 -4- I S2 i l L f'j ~. _: I r' i.. \,)'\: l' '::) ~ ~ '!' \ . : 25 :1151 During this consideration, Ron Rossiter, 962 Paloma Drive, owner of 150 ,Santa Clara Street, stated~ 'in'part, 'that he has endeavored .to acquire the property which adjoins'his on Santa Clara to no avail, ,Mr. Rossiter was granted a modification for 8,000 sq. ft., in lieu of the 15,000 sq. ft. on January 8, 1985. He referred to an Owners Participation Agreement which he would be required to sign and'expressed concern that a cloud might be placed on his Title if he did so ... that it might make it very difficult for him to ever sell his property. The Agreement clearly stated that the Agency has the right to. acquire his property by purchase or otherw'ise pursuant to the Sta te Redeve 1 opinent Law. The Agreement would be recorded in order to ensure that'the owner and/or his ,'successors 'in ownership would be' aware of thi's. .Mr. Rossiter said .he is 'planning to spend a great deal of money on development and .. is. opposed to restricting his 'r'ight to his property. Staff advised there are no clear p'lcins for' deve;opment of the subject area at this time '" they would be glad to confer with Mr. Ro~~jter should the adjacent property become available to him ... also:~nat there ,might be plans in the future for a large,development.~nd,~~ without ~he Owners Participation Agreement,. there would be"th~:~\' possibi'lity that one small'lot in the middle of the developmenT: might stop .the entire project. 'Mr. Rossiter also felt there 'would ", be, more 'opportunities to develop the area if the zoning were more appropriate. Maurice Stewart, 75 N. Santa Anita, spoke to property on St. Joseph St: '" he 'was also granted a modification for 8,000 sq. ft. in lieu of 15;000 'sq. ft. for 14'1 'E. St. Joseph St. He is interested ,. 'in acquiring some adja'cent property that -is 'not 'available at the present time n he is prepared to just wait ,until they do become avail- able. ' Chairman Hannah said, in part, that~e Council had been very cooperative 'in granting approval .'for the nori~con'forming use of ..the'property' at 1-26 E. St. Joseph Street"'.... that it cannot give more than it al ready, has ... and cannot make an .exception for one :,', lot..' ", '. "f9n''10:"! L:i~':::~; ";-, . :.:'j: .1~J ,1.::"- \... ';. I :':)' , '. , \,,' J"." ,; {'r:,'. '01,1 , C " ,'1r ,i-to ,.' ::. [1 - ~ l . :~ I' 1:- ~ ~ f ~ ,\ '. ~ (, ~ .' ,}" " .' , .~ . ( .u '.; en ',':. t'., T~, ;;n~. "; f'l;: r ,;:.~ l.~.. <.." " '-/ ' , , .J ,~, ~'. ' - :~1 :~l' [) ~:- .c; t, "~I, 'C. t.n:, 'd mo']; ,,':' " - ,~' : .. , , 1!:' It was MOVED by Member Gilb, second~p by Member Pellegrino and CARRIED 'on:;ron 'can vote as 'follows' 'that 'the Agency APPROVE the ,.. Design 'Review for 126 E:St'. Joseph Str'e'e,t as set forth in the 'bu}'lding 'pl'ans received by the 'Agency 'on 'January 22 and the land- 's'capi'n'g plan's' received January 29, 1985' subject to the following conditions: ." ,.. "", , 1.' ,Appl icen.t. shall satisfy all State and 'zoning, bu}lding and safety, etc.): , . . ".' ~ , . . :. ' ' City codes (e. g., . e, 2. Applicant shall provide. all off-site improvements pertinent , to thi s' jJroject. .' '. . J 3. Building exterior, lahdscaping~ signage 'and parking lot shall be maintained to the satisfaction of , the Planning . and Ecanomi c 'Development Depa rtment's. ' , 4. Applicant shall provide a 6'-0" high by 8'-0" wide, solid wood or metal door for the trash enclosure proposed to be at the rear of the building. 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'l'labid ~~ ~li:n ;lJjd~ r.'~li 5elj(!it).1}Jh'11~rlC9'~O'l<'1f(~i15tfii:!: d betl'!ho ve r~/th " ': .: ~ . o,sJ.gn sa,] , e.p ,ace. c ose~. tan, '. ee ",,,r.om. e nor east corner ~,., ~~' ~ u; ~ r'; rFr:rf \: l'{1~.QP.(""~~-q',\.. t'1~;.r l"~I".j :'l::n'('11,dr.J"), i';'~';;f'Y' WS' 0" 1 t-'rdr~ll'A \. Ita "h1,'1,-~d' ""H"" r J '. ~'Il t I ~ U ::,O~ .' ~v ') .tC:f'''flJ :t f j"t.b:fJ t.'1~.tJ,~~!~t~{~9.t~~fLW-1~(t~}.n.Ej2.o.8b./tYNn.i)t\I~~nu..~)'.?iMn ,,~xla4.n~1~n~~9niOlorg~~'e ~ ~r -, ", t I'i;' "'I'" C'"'3l'1Q1i'''w1.tf'''''1 ,i-:":;f.l)l ,tJ1";.'iY .",~ : ' .'0' ',. V"'iJ'11:J)-lCt;ifir.ti[l'li\,l1<'d" '-<11t>1h'IIC xceoJ i,"ln tifor one .,.... ", ..:',......,,:.( "ere 'slgns are remove an no rep ace '. ".,ere s"a e no "'visible evidence that the signs were removed., l)"p ,)" (.,p" r :' 5'4" ",)y,il~1;\dfl,'Wo':[;;,"jj:'('o'l"',:Ir,).)~lr ,'(it)] iY:P(A~[;'~tJ.Hjt~~FdbYrHt'l~"l1\1';"i' tPe 10'2jr:ri no ilfd , . ,. " ".. ,.\."c"a.n sC~p',lng, a ong~,Ser:on\,l v,enueJ,q.n a unti1J.]gton,( "r nV.e,~ran" tat :J[i,: :l\~t;>:~j'~t', \'.')n.:.~t1-I'{\f~JU-'b\.l~",1 ~j.'lf}IL"hLI t '.-:O..JI_r:,~~..;:o ,Il, ".'1'-1. -' ',-,t~ 'lod"'t'Ii\.'- ''-1cf ' n~! '\t1't~. h'tl(; .,[' j ~:' "JH'nt "Des hf,..,e'''''~'h~I~:\P;,l:dntt,e,..2t~ ![Il'dS.SPZI'r&<6~et9It,.~~lijl(,"flf...JE;,f(-0; 7ti~~lt},n i "eht~,e d ,', ". ;' ";,-"-"1, suc lS e ennJneto,presen ,a'.tra 1C, V,lS,l 1 1ty, azar. ubr-i(, , :r"; .or"o \.;.., G.'~1.:)S'h!l1h1' 'd"'"'1.tL~l ;'I-"l-<'~:I'\('l"~.tl'J;:-,,-\r,t"'..JbflLJ'=lf~d" \..'bil v,)1i1h':)P'rYbl'.:' ow"U kt.hcD lan~- '.: :''" ,-' s' p uc r eterm1nat10ns, ar.e. to, e, ma e.< y t ec'u 1C, O);t sl epar.t- r "'fl''"" i'~ ""1"' ." C'd ',1"/ '"11 an 1-:. '.l..,-L'r-,I'!.::..u tldf'U:a).~, L'~'," t:h)J ;::.1lJ..'JC '-' \..0 ....rlC UI V\f',lllg ':~' ,'I... '. -. '- 'ment. ." '.. . , Cf'j'j(J II,. Jurl("): . ,I :" ),.' , '~ ' . . q.. T>.~~ 'p~~per~~ ,q~~,):?imJ' .,1,~nd,se,gp,iT),g,~. ~,ignage,Utn.d (I?o,,:~~i.n,g , ot 'E~~~"!11C~r"mD,~w,tl?)[!t,9;ilt.oD'fu~~;e."s,at,i"~f~ct1on .of the Plann1ng and conom1C eve opment epartments. lO-l': 'f'n't;ld~~,vcl~'t ~ihtlr s~u1t~gra.tpiJ;p~j':f[gv~&:jfncrfiJ~ nf~Jm l ,.) "". , ',~ I ; " " \'. . . . " . tile Arcad1a'Mun1c1pal Code for the Velvet Turtle slgn as , . " speci.fi,ed ei.n",the) s,taf,~. r;.ep 0 r::t ", . 0 f'!) ',., ,,' '''r.. '"lla ..',' no . nt . )'-:-1'_ '-"\..L'IE\.'., ",,:r.. ','I.-' ',' '..l,l ,....'-. -' ""J, ~ l' IJ.", '.. " "'"'" ~ "1 I'" ~, Sf\":l'.~I. ~,}\l'" 'J:r ~..~f,rll,"c-' l,r;., ':..;\;:'>~'ltc.::',":,('"?1f eJJP ?'"IJnn;no ANYES ~nd J~~m~,~::~, ~,lil,IU,7~,9.~,~,s,~')l!J~~~,l-),,~,g,1!:l:~0;, Young and Hannah DES: None ' ABSENT: None I : ,1:; r: ' ~ " ~l '1 ,",.; .. ,I" . . 2/5/85, .. ...6- .'" . . "I' ~ , , t,?! i: 2S 25 :1153 (DUE TO CONFLICT OF INTEREST, CHAIRMAN HANNAH AND MEMBER PELLEGRINO DID NOT PARTICIPATE OR VOTE IN THE FOLLOWING TWO ITEMS.) MEMBER LOJESKI PRESIDED. I 5e. ,I,En~R OF" ,. R~ql!~st by, ..Sa[ll ~alzone fqr: a. furth~r. e~teo~sio,n, oL , . (CREDH .' ':,:::,':,:h~,~,1E~Sl;u~ly~;~:g~! to, Ne~0~1!!.t~}for;ljjS..~~r9~0?e~idevelopmeDt,~f ld' RETURNEDb C. ,. ~"the")northw~st"c'or,ner 'of'Flrst ana~Huntlngton:" .The Agency, "ecelVed (FALzONE . a and' reviewed 'the staff report aated:.FebruaryA,'1985. :i,[ot',was,MOVED PR.oJ~CT)~'i;lCl 'by Member.Young, ,seconded ,by Member:.,Gilb and CARRIED on roll call ,,'..', p, vote as follows that the $50,000 Letter:'of Credit 'be returned to Mr. ,\iClJr'.,,~,:. f~fz?o.e and that the,reqLe~t ~pr ~x~~~S1o.~, b,~~DENjED: .1. ...:n r .': ',: ,'. AYES:, MembersGilb"Yqung~nd,Loje;ki.' '- ,".... "-', , " NOES: None .....;:.~, .. 'ABSTAIN: Members Hannah ah'd pel'le, 9d rio,' , ,', ,...' ~. ABSENT:' NOlie 'o' ,.'.".' ,- ,-,J_I ,,'.;:,,-r.t'l . '- -~/L- 1';-:; -: -\~I,", "9. J,)1'1., \(;:1,':\ 2~ : li 52 \ """ . .1......_ , I ;L: ~ '\~ ' ,'". 0: :- :..: Sf. , ',; ,;'. ~~;-' ~,l: RELOCATION At the regular meeti~g o(Jah'~ary 22, the Agen~; authorized "11 CONSULTANT negotiations for the acquisition of threecommercial/i,ndustri'alY RETA,I.~ED .0, properti.es,in the Thir~/Hu~tington. a.r:~a, ~n~eT, 5,tat,: ~e~~~el,~p:~;~ :.,J'::. ".;' .t~.., 'm~nt ~aw and Ag,:ncy GU1d~llne~, the;owoers .may. be ,:l1g1ble'for i: ;',' 5d;nc, ;/1;" .<J' certaln rel'ocatlon beneflts;' lD~ludlng:,asslstance ,In locatlng DES,;"" . alternate sites. Computation 'of 'thelr'p'ossible :benef.its and,- (1}[:):.11': ~Je- assistance requires significant expertise in ,working withJthe , r \~[r."~ respective busi.nesses and in .c,!lculating paymeQ.ts;' This :eDtaHs :', Aj~1(." ','contracting ,with a firm which couTo pro'v,ide iJoth':servicesntf;;sych" 11': ,','" -were'needed,in the future. Staff rec6mmended,the'retentiiin;0f..~~,_ ,- _. . ." ,,,,,,-, ",' r,". ...,..\:.; the fi nn of Port and Fl or. ,It was' MOVED oy'Memo'e'r Gl 1 b, 'seconded by Member Young and CARRIED on roll call voteas:follows thatithe,.,< Agency,AUTHORIZE the Executive Director to.execute an Addendum: - e':,. ::(Amendment' No. '1) to' the .existing"Refocati'on'l('on't',,'act wl{~:;R'or;t':an'd :c,,;; ,;. ," Fl or 'for Reil oca hon' ."Ass is tan'ce wi t'h "th'e' commerc j'il'/i ndus tr.'i al. ;owners and AUTHORIZE ,staff and the Consultant to.~~ocee~ '~tth such services with the commercial/industrial owners and tenants in the Third! ie,' '"T'1 HUl!tington.,area in an amount OO,t t~"exceed $~,~R,O.and'in fo"m .~"' approved by the Agency,CounseY'-~. and that ,the Agency also AUTHORIZE . ... r< . . "", I) ( --'-' , .' " the Executie Directo'r 1'0 pay 'for Port a'nd Flo'r's' services for un~' ' anticipated requirements in a contingency amount:not to exce'ea0,:,": corner $1,275. ~;t. ~r"i<~'wfl no ~ 6<'~ :~' 'J!!.:' ~3 br:!. r r.~-'AYES": ,I' ': '~Memblerl~ I :G\l b'~~ :y o~LJ~n 91 "~~rq, ~.t:oj ~:~~, i :~~:~ I :~~'~~~.~':~. ';"(1 r -tfl/3 fIJ~~. :1': NOES: None'" 1:1:'._'~(lll:" '0'1' ,""";'~ t.!IJL ,(1: ]"';"11-:.....:,. ....," ABSTAIN: Members Hannah and Pe 11 egri no >1..' :.'. ," ABSENT: ~None',.' . ': ',.v1.::>ri..;, cIJ',]c,'j' . ~;. .,",~.. "; _: , . - ".' {p.;.-~j(:;,:~rl~-.:.r:.... 'i:: ht ~.(,;;.,t':'l')' , 1:,)9"; ~:':o '.;:~', ~,~.e .~:~:~~cY,"A,1iS9.U'~N,(~ "t6..,5 :.i~','p:,.r~':.i';:F:~1l:r::u:~'rY7Ji~ ;1~85: ; ~ ~~' ~,;;';"a(.di;' . ~ f\ (; t,., -, ( .' I.J _," 1 ~ ;'(;~, ,t-fc r.... 'i'r1;Jf,l -': '..'....; <,', . ~~,/l -I:.r~ y .M'\,~ J~"~ ~,l:..~ L' c \~Tr~t~ .Df3p"ar,t-. . """"9".' '.'.'"..'W. 'CO'UNOID.,RECONVENED., ." ,'--. ',.'." '.', 0,' ,. ..., '.,.,.. " " ",.,;.' [.'I;h )'1~i}:"-_: "~. :r.r;' :'11. " .,\.,.~.,: ),1 'I~t, \(\'....:)(~.A.~ .;,t;".';: .:'1 :.:!:; ::: ..r:r"_'~.~r::r >~ ~\I>{"",;,,;.~:....'.~t'~~,;i,';I': ,t ::.'.: !l":;-/;-l :~~":-\; ;"..i":r>/";"~rc f) t... 1 t i ,-,~',~ 'oJ ~'~!" -~ J..~~L..1 '.Y,~. ':'" ft;-;'~,~;fl ':r:""r.n1r. ~;l.~)l~}~I"" A.~..lng ,[l ~i=rf.~: :,):i,~ ''of 1,.1_, ,; 1" '_; _j'- -':'l,..l"'C:'r'J"rl 'i \.rl-') -.:'~ ~,..."7!- ,-'h',-., "T th.; :.;lann'rr :\nd ,~ ." ~ ,. " .:_~~~:!. :-,," ,\',i;~'I~ 1~I:i' 'b:-.:. -:tl J~'":-l~~,''' .' '" I j ! ; - ~ : f" ; . ' :. ',!,;' , " :' ,. Il:' ..' ~ ," "_- ".', .. ',,. '",<_~,.~.J~::jr' l-c~~B, f~!t'r,~t ~':a~;~t)/r:,f:?rn~(~;' '-"'~i+:--"""'i~ ..,- "'1'":'- ~-..:~",..r::'ll'._'( .yt~: si~--: 3-,~;- ~"'~ '-'" ':::' M'I"~ 'i. edIt', ')1(:1 '\:..:::I~ r)':I~><I'"' "';:>~ -' - r.".,: .-, \:',J'~ ,::,:5""(; ~j':,."),J.' :i"'9:) <;,' Co ' " ~. .' - .P) ': .; ,{,l_ ~t,.;"":"'.' ,- ~ ; ,,J:,: " .' ,', ;} (:1" '; ::'I}', " , ,., .'Ii .. " ",- j >1)'1',: .-" , . ,',~,~ "".:. ~l,""-;' v -.~ ;1.. r1 ,: , ! "'~, '.:.l1-:-1 j' ((1 i.....1 In d" " " Ha'lnah '" "",- ~ 2/5/8~ .-' ~7,- - .. . ~ ~ ~, .l~ i : : <.. ~ r:~..' : ^ i .~ _", . 1~ :"J~ .:., ' 7. :'~ --P.i f J '1, r , ~ ~ ~~.. I " ':;' 1 .:')'d:~ ~. ..~~r. ' .', ,.I.! .:lr. , c, 25: 115!l ...:'-j '" AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION . fl" . '" ..." . .' .: ,~:~.' J' ' , ,Herb Fletcher, 175 W. Lemon Avenue; referred to the action 'taken by h~';' ., ".,J! 9.'.. 'l.Counci'l 'at' its 'las t 'm4et ing in a l'locat i ng .$5'O:000"toward an .att~', . . ~ .' - .....) ,. l,' '/~. j ,I r , " ' . ,. , .'..! . ~ . I :,,' "'. ' , .'~' . (;-:;;i"~'- . ','", ~~~at~er.t:a~k.a~.the ~igh'scho~l and staJe,d,. in.p~rt, that he w~~, ".; '. . oppqsed to t~e expendlture as lt ,affects s~ch a small number of " " . I." peop1e'of the':City" ;.... .that'the"Invitatioria1 is the only event which Ii ':' ."d ".a~~tacts 'a' spedator'gr:'q~p':LHe'a'l so':f.eH .t~e new track is not needed ,'..: use the funds for ~omething that would benefit more people. He asked Cound.1 .to visit,Jhe tracks ~efo.r,~;,putting more money in that field. Couricilniember Gilb sutimitted'that the Recreation Commission voted unanimously, in favor of thts ... .one of ' the many discussions was that manY' adults 'run every' day"at'the track; :." it is too dangerous on the streets. '. -, ' 8, ~,CONSENT IIEMS. "~ ., ~ '_': .' 1, . ~l ! _ I, . -I:,;: t . I I'.; ; 0': ~~:.;;i ~;Jt, "1/_';'::'(-::/- :'I\~' ..,.. .. :. ..., ~. , ...... \ .. ,,, ~ I f', l.' ~j.:o!r~,; \ )1l':'.^)-. ',:\ ::,~;'.\'I'" r~ ~ 'l; " ,~''';:',- 8a....."',,,h-~, ,,),~'. :~l, ~.l'.': r .,L: .......:;,". PARCEL::MA~ '" ;' APPRQVED Tentati~e Pa,=cel,_~ap .84-1 :r~, r,egu~st. to create 84-13:, ,; . from one lot at, 1000,Holly.Avenue., ,,'Cond1tlOns set forth l'~:rl .?:' :~~p~)U,~,Feq-,~~~rua:y. 5l..! ~~L,. 11;',': ,.. I, two '; oi:S ' in staff ,1 ", . t r, - ~, p , .,.. r'.( f! 1" I . : t.: ~1 'J ~ .:.1.':", ~ " ~ :: j 8b.".;;t::")"~;ri,jJ,"~~~~r.~~"\'~:':,;,',~,;,~-,)~",, ", .... 'r,,' ,';',.\.:~_'.' ,'. r ,',. P' T~..A.,CT ~q'",~:;"JPp'R~,~~D:Fi~a1, Map bf.Tr~~t No: '43309 -- 10 u.nit,~esident~a~ '", , 4330~ .,,: "..condom1nlum ,at ,653 Fa1rVlew Avenue. All..outstandlng condltlons FINAL 'MAP ,.., "mus't be" c'omp n'ed wi th 'prior 'to recoraat ion.' '. '.:. ' "__ ,,'" ,:.'1 -:::J~: ~'~!: I.' . ,.-'" '. 1 '. ,. J ' . " t' , , , . ,." '. ' 8c;r.] :';;)~-1. .;.<.)1 itJ',' ?~ ""'. j.' \ ' .~ ".: t " c. ., . ,~ t L..,~IRE:t~,ATN:~:: ;' (AN,~;EL~,E~ a,g,Gee~eni:"l'ti.th E1 Monte ,for use ofitsfire training -:.; ')ING TOWER" , ' . tower wh1chcannot henceforth be used for 1 i've'{ir'e fighting' ",v" 'f .' , < ~,."" 1. '. " ;., ',I ' "'1 i, .".. \'.' ,'.!' -. I, ..' j >~~:,~'~~p~~:T7!.\,,~,I.~ t~lcpnl~g<.: "Jr; ') ",,_. '-,) ".... ,.!, \ Iv ,ri1 .-.,',1 8d. .',.,.., , o LEAvE/,Ji f " GRANTE'o 1e'a've '01' 'absence t'o~ Ka'th1ee'n Wintey,'w{t'hout -( 0 ~SAB'$'{N~(,' " , six weeks after.',the birth o'('her b'ab.>< c: ", ~' ". ....p (WiWte'r)' ~': -', , ,~, .., ,', . <-.' ~ ' '-' I, ' ..,' J ,., ,1>' ::__.'-:,.;;3:j ,:." :..,11':'1:>. '::.:It:J;,r';..:I'I~J. ::1~'-'.U.I,;..J1 n.... ,.)...I.fj , . .~-:: ~~ f i ~ \ 8e. ~', MUNICIPAL " rR CODE ~~ j CONVERSION 8f. 00. SURPLUS r PROPERTY QU IT -CLA IMED 8g. t.". /l, ADVERT! SE r 6 T' FOR BIDS ,1.\" Storm Drains \08h. ~'~ WATER r RIGHTS LEASE '-, I tl- ~ , , . f ....: " , .' ,,' ';. ,..11 , pay through AUTHORIZED .$12,000 f,l;om ,Revenue Sharing for municipal code conversaion , I .' :.' _ ',J .1 ... .' .' ". , II" :.., .,;_ I . ~.' ,:. serVlce by the Book Putlllshlng Company.. ' ",'" ,n:"ILJ~; ;:::~ 1;,.,,., j',,(1,1J~,t~ _" ,(":-.!_I', ,':l:-':'"."" ~ ' I.'. :1": .: '.-.- ~\ ,;,:c~~T,H9,~!Z~,D~ t~,~;.Maypr,~ryd yit,Ji' ~1.~,~~"~9,"exe,cut~~~yt~-claim deed 'In fonn (approved by the Clty Attorney transferrlng tlt1e of a 21 ft. w.ide ,strip in the rear of 830 E..,Winn.ie Way, to ,the owners thereof. If'i's's'urplus property and the Co'tintj Flood Control District and the County. Department of Parks and Recreation have"no objections to the disposei]. of ,the property under conditions .spelled out in the staff report dated February 5, 1985. I APPROVED the plans and specifications and au~horized the City Clerk to advertise for bids for the construction of storm drains on Lovell Avenue between Naomi and Norman Avenues (Job No. 561) and Huntington Drive westbound between Civic Center Place and the Arcadia Wash (Job No. ~60). The storm drain on Lovell will be funded from State Gas Tax Funds and on Huntington Drive from Capital Outlay Funds. APPROVED lease of 1500 acre feet of water rights in the Main San Gabriel Basin for 1984-85 as set forth in the staff report dated February 5, 1985 -- also lease 1500 acre feet of water rights in the East Unit of the Raymond Basin from the'City of Sierra Madre for the amount of $145,000 ($96.67 per acre foot). Mayor and City Clerk authorized to execute the necessary lease documents in form approved by the City Attorney. 2/5/85 " -8- ;::';., ~ " ' 7 <:. ,I f . ~. ',I' i'~' ::.sr 'j. J' 9. '9a. RESOLUTI ON f,:~ei~:ll.. ), jz'. ',' ",9b. RESOLUTION ~"NO.\..5212 ',' ADOPTED "'elf" ",\. '\ 'PI' , ',' " . ........ . . d- Y \,r,,, ,to", n[ ( ,-I rr)i1UO~) :-'~l' :~~ ~I' t r ,- 1;[' 10,:' -if. ,: ,; (-,: ,-". .. ~l"F"P ;,,/,. (First & Huntington) (Feb. 19) I-":~~l ~,ITl 25;:1'155 , ,"0", ALL OF 'THE ABOVE CONSENT ITEMS WERE 'ApPROVED ON MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER GILB, SECONDED BYCOUNCILMEMBER PELLEGRINO AND CARRIED ON ROLL CALL VOTE AS FOLLOWS: ,""'1. . .. ',' t \' I I, I iK'1-j 1- v. Gilb, .Lojeskl~ Relle9~in9~ !oung ~~d2~~nn~h .AYES:1'~~Countilmembers NOES: " ; None' ABSENT: None CITY ATTORNEY The City Attorney presented, explained the content and read the title of Resolution No. 5211, entitled: itA RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA, SUPPORTING THE SOUTHERN CALIF- ORNIA PUBLIC-PRIVATE FILM CENTER". On, MOTION by Councilmember Pellegrino, Young and CARRIED on roll call vote as was ADOPTED. secondd~ by Councilmember follows, Resolution No.52ll 'AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Councilmembers Gilb, Lojeski, Pell~grino, Young and Hannah None 'None . ' ~ . J. " The City Attorney presented, explained the content arrd read the title of Resolution No. 5212, entitled: itA RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF'THE CITY OF ARCADIA DECLARING THAT WEEDS GROWING UPON AND IN FRONT OF AND BRUSH, RUBBISH, REFUSE, AND DIRT UPON 'AND IN FRONT OF CERTAIN PRIVATE PROPERTY IN THE CITY ARE A PUBLIC NUISANCE"AND D,ECLARING ITS INTENTION TO PROVIDE FOR THE ABATEMENT'THEREOF" :":J On MOTION by Councilmember Young, seconded' by Councilmember Pellegrino and CARRIED on roll call vote as follows, Resolution No. 5212 was ., ADOPTED." ," ". " . ~~. AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Gilb, Lojeski, Pellegrino;'Young and Hannah Counc i'lmembers' None None ., , . MATTERS FROM. STAFF :. .\. 'lhSrl ~ on ,None MATTERS, FROM ELECTED'OFFICIALS, _, -:: _ !.1 ~e('d . ' I . I : ~ :" ~: yf t- ~ 1 'f t ~i I'n response to 'a suggestion by Councilmember Lojeski',"staff'hnrpof'. will prepare a Request for Proposals for the First and HuntingtQn~~~ site for review at the February 19 meeting. . . " cC; ) \." !I:: :.. (...!.f/. 'J If' -,' .!.",....J Discussion on the new city seal. " , r ~ ' ',,, T. ~'~"'.~ ~'51 ,('1' . T RAN S C RIP T FOLLOWS 2/5/85 ~9- HANNAH , " ,I J " ,",.:1 " BOCIAN , , "I' I,., , ' .., 25 :1156 T RAN S C RIP T (insofar as decipherable) J ,. I have one item and that has to do with ,the, Seal.' ;!;t seems that we hav,e "." .. c some confusion. I'm completely confused. We got a report one time that said - and I'm only concerned 'with money - we had a report that said it would cost $60,000 to replace all of the various Seals in the City to " , '.' ,'. ; ,the new Seal. ('have, no. 'stro~g c:nvictions on what the Seal should 100kl 1 ike. My only concern is the money aspect of .it,.. I received a report . yesterday which indica~ed that.w~ would be saving'approximately $8,000 .1" " :' . ~ , if we switched over and I'd like somebody to explain it to me. I think that there's some other questions abou~ this part~cular thing, but first I'd like to get the money aspect behind us. " Mr. Mayor the original memorandum that was sent to you on January .10th ,'" t' C' -. . , 'indicate,d that it,wou,ld, cO,st appr,9xim,a,tely $43,000 to change everything ..., I. . pver at this time to the"'existing City. Seal.' .At.the:request of Councilman :',i:,;".:,;:;:,,:L6jeski,.stafflp.oked ,i.nto how much i,i:,l"ould cost':us:,to replenish our ,}I\: ..I,).....; ! 1;.,.. " ; ~ }1.>. ~ I ~~. Ii r ;jI1.,~: r HANNAH BOCIAN' HANNAH BOCIAN HANNAH BOCIAN stock for items that hav,e' the.. City Seal.on them. h' the stock ; l' . , ~ J ..J _ I "" . has just run out because of the uncertainty on,wha:t."to print. So, in response to that. we prepared a memorandum,which was' delivered to the Council " , which stated that it would cost approximately $111000 to replenish the stock with the old,Sea.l.:,;So,.in;other words, if we went back to the,old Seal it would immediately cost the City $11,000 to"get back up to an in- ventory that.we;usual,ly .have .wi.th,the,City Seal. So, we would be ,,' ,J' ',; saving -c it would cost. us appr.oximately .' .' l't,' d' ~\:!' , '. " . . . , . ,': "1" '. :') '" ". betakiry.9, $,11 ,0,0.0.. ;::'" ,. . $8.000 mor,e? " " 'v/ell, 'you would ;. :.1;:,- You'd be spending $11,000 anyway is what you're saying? , '00: i ;",,-1 ; That's right -- that's exactly it. , I still haven't finish~d ;L I wa~i to g~t this st~~ight -- I stand. What about the Seals on the Police cars? That was not included in the report that was sent to you the other day because we don't have to change those Seals if we go back to the old Seal. They already are the old Seal. What I think that Councilman Lojeski was getting at is, "what would it cost to go back to the old Sea]?" And, to go back to the old Seal would cost us $11,000 now. We don't have to 2/5/85 -1 O~ . '[j:;' .'.', 2~;1'157 "1 I' change out the Police cars because they have the old Seal. !-Ie don't have ,.; :~,\" - ;'1 to change out the Pubiic Works vehici~s because they have the old Seal on ]'J ;-, j;' "", L. ,. ,\ ~ { , 'them _c or anyof th~'b~dg'~s or the' patclies or things like that that haven't been changed yet. , ,,'~ ,. ", - E H'ANNAH ," . Now, I'm under ~he impres~ion that several of our Firemen have badges that are not alike, is that true? ;;. BOCIAN I think tha't therei s {gerieralncin~coriformity with the Seal s that we have I.'".J:,. . e ' "" because when you reproduce an item you need to make adjustments to it so I,: .. ~. ',Ll:' " , ' , :1;',- :;'.} thHt it can be acceptable on the medium that You are' printing it on. So, , . when you'make a patch, th'at patch j's goin'g to ha'vedto look a little bit t.: i different than maybe a hand' painted drawing :<\1 ',', L,; IJ'}'" " .',. , '. a different medium: ,,') because you're working with ,i' \, HANNAH Mr. Bocian C basically , " , ! , '0 ,0;, 1 .J ~ want to know if we adopt a new Seal, which we've ,'C " ~I ! I: l':' I ',r(' '1 '. already done, and' now we implement it by putting it on the Police cars and putting it on the badges and putting it on the letterheads and everything ". ; I else -- what would it'cost the City? ", " ,oJ, BOCIAN If the Council's intention was to di'rect the staff to do that immediately it would cost us $43,000 HANNAH .';.,f .' Approx'imate'ly $43',0'00. BOCIAN; > ,. Yes. whatever the eiact figure was. ;....: ,: ", I " -' t,' ',',' ,,~ ~,\,' HMNAH If we did"it over a period. of ti,me,. as we use!up ,the,letterheads or what- hav.eyou -- ,what wo.ul.d"it Co.st"us? '/.1', ,. Boc.r~N. ..It would .still eventually cost $43,000. But;, that $43,000 would be spread , ;.,. I l' ,,, CH "~,.",,, -' , .' 1,1 o.ut over a long perio.d of t~me and ypu wo.uld run into those Co.sts anyway. .As an ,examp,le - ,when a Police.ca'r would ,leave service you would have to; (>, -=:":~, put a S~~l qn that.car,whether that ,Seal,is the ,old 'City, Seal Dr a new o.ne, I so, yo.u:d ,have the same Co.st.,' Now, 'why it's expensive ,n'ow is because :',OC, r '.: .'., you'd be trashing al.l o.f the o.ld 'equipmeni:"- all th~ old Seals t~;tyb'J -z,":'..', '1.: .have:, So.; if yo.u,did~it ,by an attrition-facto.r yo.u wo.ul'd have approximately J i'. L~ o~; i: 1 th,e ,same co.stswhether it be the old S'ea'l 'or th'e' n~w 'Seal. HANNAH Ok - I understand that. In your pro.posal are you suggesting that -- no.w, we just bo.ught some car~ if we put ,the new City Seal on that, now we've got two. different Seals o.n the Po.lice cars in Arcadia, is that what you're reco.mmending we do.? Do you want to. answer to that? Wi\TTS I'd like to answer that. It depends on what the Co.uncil decides to.night. 2/5/85 -,:~0" -11- LOJESKI d HANNAH BOCIAN PELLEGRINO HANNAH PELLEGRINO HANNAH ". GILB LOJESKI GILB 25:1158 If the Council decides tonight to stay with the new Seal we would recom- mend that we still only replace the Seals by attrition so that for a period of maybe a year, maximum 18 months, we will have on Police vehicles two different Seals -- but, both Arcadia Seals. That could be corrected though. The current Police car has the black and white police badge. In the center of the police badge there's a small - I don't know what the dimensions are, 4 inch. 8 inch, whatever it is - the old Seal, the former Seal. To get that Seal up to snuff if you wanted uniformity with the badge look - could just simply be nothing more than I a black and white cutout overlay which attaches right to that badge. Yo, not changing the entire decal, because, we have already in stock, of those large black decals, 20. That decal is valued at $7 each. I would presume that production of a small black and white duplicate of the new Seal to just simply go over the old Seal, which now would bring all your cars up to conformity, it's got to be 1 ess tha~ $7 per overl ay . How many cars do we have - 20 - 25? I don't have that information. He's asking 25. Yes. What would be the problem with having two different Seals, let's say, when we run out of one we reolace che other one. You don't see two Police cars going down the street on City business. Well, I've seen two of them sitting parked side by side..... I think r understand the money aspect, but there are some other elements to this proposition. . One of the big items is the Police badges. Now, that's a $17,000 or $18,000 item, but then some people say, "well, they don't have to be changed", but, I don't think you can have two Seals. I'd like to address that fact. I happened to be at a function, in fact it was a memorial service for Mr. Powell last Thursday and Mr. Powell's I cousin, Mr. Jim Bateson, who is our Fire .Battalion Chief, was there at the meeting. He was wearing, obviously, as he always does, his fireman badge - his Fireman Battalion Chief's Badge. The logo in the center of that badge - and the badge was all worn - he's been a City employee al- most 25 years that I'm aware of.... That was Elders. 2/5/85 -12- ,LOJESKI GILB LOJESKI. I BOCIAN LOJESKI I HANNAH GILB HANNAH " 'f',r' < 25 :1159 I'm sorry, what did I say? Bateson. It's Jim Elder,. I'm sorry, excuse me. The center of hjs said, "Arcadia the Queen City", so his badge is supposed to not conform even from the him standpoint of, evidently -- when I asked/about that he said, "that's the original badge I was issued and you just. don't go changing a badge until either the badge becomes tarnished, they're taken away from you .or retired, basically, from service." I understand our Chief of Police finally got his "Queen City" logo taken off of his badge, approximately, a year ago. So, there have. been over the history of years in the City of Arcadia, two and three badges, accordingly. The outside design of .the badge, it says, ",Police Department" and soforth, hasn't changed.' What has ,changed has been the small logo in the center. The City has always gone by the attrition method, and really, to my knowledge. correct me if I'm wrong Mr. Bocian, h~sn't gone in and totally replaced eyery" thing. No, we have not. We have some items that we have a lot of and -- use them up as you need them. One, is the 200 City plaques which are valued at $23 each. Use those as they've been used and as new ones need to be ordered - and .the new one is ordered - June of 1983 the Council voted by resolution, the design was, copyri,ghted, there was no tricks, ands or buts about it" the City adopted a new City Seal and it's taken a year and a half - this report finally comes - I even question it as far as the general adminis- tration part of the report - "one City Clerk Notary stamp at $275." The logo of the City of Arcadia was changed June of 1983. Well, we have a motion that was passed and it's a question of implementing it and unless someone makes a motion that we not implement I guess staff is directed to implement it. I'll ,make a MOTION that we do not. Any second? I won't second it because I don't feel that we're spending that amount of money - if you have any other reasons for not wanting to implement it.... 2/5/85 -13- GILB HANNAH BOCIAN \,, HANNAH' BOCIAN GILB HANNAH ;- 'BOCIAN GILB LOJESKI GILB .. .BOC IAN " GILB HANNAH CITY CLERK HANNAH 25 :1160 It has nothing to do with the money. It's like I stated before - I think that the City Seal belongs to the people. This was voted on a three to nothing vote in June of 83' and if the Seal is ever going to be changed a citizens committee should have something to say' about it - not three Councilmen changing the Seal of the City - because, it actually belongs to the citizens. Now, you have the power to do it, but that doesn't give you the right to do it. I'm just saying that that's my personal opinion. I::. ' '~ I 'J Thank you. Can somebody give us the background on how it was changed in prior years? Because, it has been chanqed, hasn't it? It has always been changed by ordinance. I have the ordinances here - I do not have the information of what process preceded the ordinance. whether there were City commissions or citizen groups involved. All that I know is from the legal end - it has to be changed by ordinance. How many times has it been changed? Three times. this is the fourth time. From 1936 to 71' and 1971 to 83' - it's been changed once before. This is the third change? Fourth. Second. . . . . .. the fourth? You had one Seal from 1903 to 1936. We had one Seal for 33 years. Then you had the "Queen City", then you 'had the first "Community of Homes" and then you have the Sea 1 now, so thi s woul d be the fourth Seal of the City. Third change - fourth Seal. Is there a second to the motion? I: I thought you seconded it to get it on the floor. No; I did not. I explained to Mr. Gilb why I wouldn't second it. MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND..... we have directed staff. ~/5/85 -14- I I COUNCILMEMBER LOJESKI ADJOURNMENT Feb. 19,1985 5 :15 p. m. ATTEST: 25:1161 The meeting adjourned in memory of Dr. Clarence H. Wilcox who passed away February 1, 1985. He was a member of the Arcadia Lodge #547 F. & A. M. He is survived by his wife, Mary; daughter, Joanne Mellin and grandsons, Howard and Steven Mellin. A memorial service was held in the Church of our Heritage at Forest Lawn, Covina Hills, February 4, 1985. In memory of Ralph W. Powell who was fatally injured in an airplane accident January 27. Mr. Powell was born in Monrovia where he attended elementary school then moved to Arcadia, where he attended First Avenue Junior High School and Arcadia High School. He attended San Bernardino Valley College and the University of Southern California. He was Secretary of Boy Scout Troop 103, on the Boards of Santa Anita School PTA and Arcadia High School PTA. He was a Member of the Arcadia Tournament of Roses Association, the Santa Anita Homeowners' Association and was President of the American Field Service in Arcadia and was involved in Adventure Unlimited, a church youth group. He is survived by his wife, Eleanor and eight children: Kristin, Bill, Greg, Carin, Weston, Brent, Ryan and Courtney. Memorial services were held at the Church of the Good Shepherd on January 31, 1985. A Special Ralph W. Powell Memorial Fund is being established in his honor. The meeting adjourned at 9:50 p. m. to 5:15 p. m., February 19, 1985 in the Conference Room to conduct the business of the Council and Agency and any Closed Session necessary to discuss personnel, litigation matters and evaluation of properties. ~~ ~5z~a~ Christine Van Maanen, City Clerk 2/5/85 -15-