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Planning Commission proceedings are taped recorded and on file in the office of the Planning
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MINUTES
ARCADIA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
REGUlAR MEETING
Tuesday, August 9, 1988
The Planning Commission of Ihe City of Arcadia met 111 regular session. on Tuesday, August 9,
1988 at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Arcadia City Hall, 240 West Huntington
Drive, with Chairman Larry Papay presiding.
PLEOOE OF AllEGIANCE
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
MINUTES
Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Szany, Papay
None
M01JCX'.l
It was moved by Commissi()ner Szany, seconded by Commissioner. Amato to
approve the Minutes of July 26; 1988 as published. The motion passed by voice vote
with none dissenting.
MOTION
II was moved by Commissioner Clark seconded by Commissioner Szany to read all
resolutions by title only and waive reading the full body of the resolutions. The motion
passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
OTHERS ATTENDING:
Council Uaison Mary Young
City Attorney Michael Miller
Senior Planner Donna Butler
Associate. Planner Wilfred Wong
Assistant Planner James Kasama
Secretary SilVa Vergel
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PUBUC HEARING CUP 88-019
536-600 W. Las Tunas Dr.
Richard Slen, Terry and. Louisa Kuo
Considerallon of a conditional use permit to
operate a 5,000 sq. ft. restaurant.
The staff report was presented and the public hearing was opened.
Red Wong, 212 Monterey, S. Pasadena, was representing the owner. He Informed the
Commission that King's Broiler will probablyre-occupy the building and noted that they are in
agreement with all of the conditions in the staff report.
Kenneth Schmidt, 534 Workman, asked what the other proposed buildings would be and what
type of businesses would occupy them. He noted that on quiet nights they can clearly hear the
patrons placing their orders at Wendy's which is on the other side of Baldwin. He was concemed
about possible problems such as increase in noise and lighting. He remarked that on occasions
patrons park on their street to go to Pic 'N Say and was concerned about the safety In the area.
In response to Mr. Schmidt's questions, staff explained the c.u.p. procedure and remarked that
businesses such as a yogurt shop, nail shop, boutique and take out food would be able to go on the
site without a public hearing but an eating establishment would require a public hearing which
would mean that the surrounding property owners would be notified. He noted that the building
next to the restaurant would be a two-story building with office on the Second floor and retail
uses on the first floor. It was noted' that there is only one developer but the site consists of 3
lot!; and a covenant would be required to keep the lots as one parcel. It was noted that the
buildings would be at ,least 75' away from the preschool to the east and there will be a block wall
separating it from the properties to the rear, the buildings will be located closer to Las Tunas.
The proposed plans were shown to Mr. Schmidt.
Commissioner Papay reiterated what staff said and assured Mr. Schmidt that public hearings
would be held for certain types of retail uses such as an eating establishment. He said that
outdoor lighting would ensure the security of the center. He reminded Mr. Schmidt that this cup
is for the restaurant only.
The City Attorney, Mike Miller, explained that the Planning Commission can approve,
conditionaily approve or deny the project. .It Is the Commission's prerogative to establish
conditions to mitigate specific concerns which would give the Commission greater control over
the situation. The c.u.p. allows the City to take a closer look at certain types of uses and the city
is expanding the types of uses. that require a c.u.p. prior to coming into an area so that it isn't
just a matter of right and that they have to meet the zoning code. By making more uses subject
to the c.u.p. process-they are affording the 'City greater control in approving uses which come
into Arcadia.
Terry lenox, 547 Workman, commented that she felt the same as Mr. Schmidt. She was
concerned about the safety In the area and the Integrity orthelr neighborhood. She was afraid
that this might create some problems. She was not pleased with retail stores going into the
center and said. that she would prefer office buildings there and noted that on occasions she has
noted sometimes people loiter In the Pic 'n Sav parking lot and create problems. She asked If the
windows of the office building would face their properties. She noted that at the present time
there aren't many buildings on the site and police can easily monitor the parking lot for possible
problems while driving by Baldwin or Las Tunas but with the increase in the number of
buildings, it would be more difficult for them to see between buildings.
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Staff said that there would be no south facing windows and all windows would be facing the east
and the west.
Ms. Butler remarked.that if the windows are facing to the east and to the west. She stated that
they are only 1 parking space shy of what Code requires and noted that that request for the
reduction of one parking space was approved by the Modification Committee who felt that this
was not a significant variation from the Code.
l.ynn Juememann, 535 Workman was concerned about the lights shining down on her property
and asked about the locations of the buildings in relation to Las Tunas.
Staff said that the total site consists of 64,320 sq. ft. and the office building would setback 5'-
O' from Las Tunas and would sit 50' from the south property line.
Mr. Schmidt,asked if the L1ses that are specified in the plans have been approved and said thathe
was concerned about lights shining down on his property asked if delivery hours could be
limited.
Staff commented that the uses shOwn on the plans are examples only and have not been approved
by the City. Staff indicated that Code prohibits the lights from shining directly into adjacent
properties and noted that. the lights would be lowered to minimize that problem. Staff informed
the Commission that delivery hours can be limited as a condition of approval.
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It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Clark to close the
public hearing. The motion passed by voice vote With none dissenting.
Chairman Papay wondered if ihe delivery hours as well as the restaurant hours could be limited.
Commissioner Clark said that it is a nice development arid the landscaping woUld enhance the
center.
Commissioner Amato agreed and said that he liked the concept. He didn't think that hours should
be imposed on the restaurant but felt that it would be appropriate to limit the delivery hours.
Mike Miller said that the center could be monitored and if problems arise then the c.u.p. could
be brought up before the Commission for additional hearings to resolve the problems.
MOllON
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Clark to approve
CUP 88-019 subject to the conditions in the staff report with the additional condition
that deliveries shall be prohibited between the hours of 7:00 p.m. and 7:00 a~m., that
the c.u.p. remains subject to the imposition of business hours requirements if reports
and complaints warrant the consideration of such a condition and that the Plan~ing
Commission retains continuing jurisdiction concerning business hours and that the uses
shown on the applicants' plans are not approved and are used as examples only.
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ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato. Clark. Hedlund. Szany. Papay
lIKES: None
There is a fIVe working day appeal period after the adoption of the resolution.
PUBUC HEARING CUP 88-020
333 N. First Ave.
Robert A. Ruiz
Consideration of a conditional use permit for
the expansion of a!l existing automobile
garage with modifications.
The staff report was presented.
Staff remarked that the on,site parking cOmplies with Code.
The public hearing was opened.
Robert Ruiz. 333 N. First. stated that he is in agreement with all of the conditions in the staff
report. He anticipated construction In December or January and said that the proposed plans
are the best; both economically and as far as how it fits on the lot. The garages will not be facing
First Avenue and asked for the modification for the planter to be approved. He commented that
all work would be done inside ihe garage and they have enough room or5 cars.
M01lON
It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the
public hearing. The motion passed by vciice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Hedlund. felt that it is better to work on the cars in$ide a building than outsjde and
he was in favor ofthe cup.
Commissioner Amato wondered If the construction could be expedited.
Commissioner Clark agreed.
MOTI0N
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to approve CUP
88-020 subject to the conditions in the staff report.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund. Szany. Papay
lIKES: None.
There is a five ,!\,orklng'day appeal period after the adoption of the resolution.
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PUBUC HEARING CUP 88-022
211 E. Foothill Blvd.
T.J. Scofield & Assoc; for
Ralphs Grocery Co.
Consideration of a conditional use permit for a
commercial building containing more than 20,000
square feet within 100 feet of residentially zoned
property. Existing commercial retail center
contains 37,024 sq. ft. Applicant proposes to
demolish existing 8,320 sq. ft. of retai, shops and
enlarge grocery store by 13,000 sq. ft., which
would add 4,680 sq. ft. of building to the site.
The staff report was presented.
Staff said thatthe oak tree will remain on the lot and said that there .is an existing 22' high wall
and the requested modification Is for the same.
The public hearing was opened.
James Thomas. T.J. Scofield, 455 Main, Boise, Idaho, was there representing Ralphs. He said
that Ralphs is trying to keep up with the existing grocery store industry and noted that they are
in agreement with all of the conditions in the staff report. He noted that most of the delivery is
done during the day and noted that they would not be opposed to limiting the hours ofdelivery.
Dee Carrillo, 1101 Artesla, Compton, representing Ralphs, asked about the hours of delivery.
Commissioner Szany commented that the limitation on the hours of delivery is necessary due to
the center's proximity to residential properties to the rear.
James Wilcher, 168 E. Sycamore, feli that they should comply with all the regulations. He
asked when would they sweep the site,and said that those machines.are noisy.
Staff explained that when the building was constructed, many of-the present regulations were
not required. However, they are required to comply with present Code requirements. It was
noted that at the present time there is a total of 1800 sq. ft. and no landscaping at the corner of
Second and Foothill. After the proposed remodeling the landscaping will increase to
approximately 8500 sq. ft. which will improve and enhance the site.
Chairman Papay said that 7 out of 8 requested modifications are an 'improvement to the existing
situations even though they are modifications.
Roger Oepkes;242 E. Sycamore, said that the expansion would increase traffic and noise. He
said that the wall will be 8' on Ralph's side but In some areas it will not even be 5' on the
resldentlal properties to the north ili lieu of the 6' required by Code. Hefelt"that truck access
should be reduced and commented that it would be difficult for emergency vehicles such as fire
trucks to get to the klcation and could be a hazardous situation. He didn't think that the parking
lot is efficient and said that In some cases people park on t,he cul-de.sac and walk over to the
stores. He felt that the reduction in parking spaces would be detrimental.
Mrs. Guiwits, 238 E. Sycamore, concurred with Mr. Oepkes and said that there were 2 fires in
the past in the trash cans and the wind blew it,onto the roofs of the two homes to the rear which
caught on fire.
Mr. Thomas said that the trash enclosures will be relocated and this will help mitigate that
problem. He noted that'they wiil have security lights on the site. He commented that this
particular store will not be converted to a "Gianr store. He said that they will be increasing the
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landscaping which will Improve the aesthetics of the center. The driveways will be Improved to
better accommodate Ingress and egress from the site. He noted that they would be In agreement
with setting up the hours of sweeping and delivery. He commented that they will be upgrading
the site by improving the facility, adding parking spaces and landscaping.
MOllaII
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Clark to close the
public hearing. The,motlon passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Amato wondered if the transformer to the north would be a noise factor, He felt
that it is a nice project He was pleased to see the center better lighted and the additional
landscaping.
Commissioner Clark felt that It was a nice Improvement. He said that the improvement will
reduce loitering. He said that at the present there is hardly any landscaping and liked the Idea
that the landscaping would be increased. He said that their parking lot will be improved. He felt
that overall the proposal i"s an improvement.
Commissioner Hedlund agreed and said that the elimination of some of the stores is a good
Improvement.
Staff explained the hours of delivery and the sweeping of the site. It was noted that the wall is
measured from the lowest adjacent grade and would serve as a buffer between commercial and
residential properties and would protect the residential properties,
Commissioner Szany felt that It would be an Improvement over the ex/sting situation.
Chairman Papay said that it would be improving existing deficiencies.
MOllaII
It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Szany to approve CUP
88-022 subject to the conditions In the staff report with the additional condition that
deliveries should be prohibited between the hours of 7:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato, Clark. Hedlund, Szany, Papay
!'as: None
There is a five working day appeal period after the adoption of the resolution.
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PUBLIC HEARiNG MC 88.64
350 Laurel Ave.
Frederick Garside
Consideration of modifications for a new
two- story house and detached garage
(referred from the Modification
Committee).
The staff report was presented.
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Staff noted that 2 houses are being built to the west of the project which were approved under
the old regulations totalling approximately 3000 sq. ft. including the garage.
The public hearing was opened.
Frederick Garside, 350 Laurel, spoke for the requested modifications. He said that he was In
agreement with all of the conditions in the staff report. He said that they could move the
overhangs back and eliminate the bay window on the second floor, thereby eliminating some of
the modifications. He remarked.that the narrowness of the lot necessitates the placing of the
garage in the rear yard which would require the modification. He submitted photos of the
surrounding area to the Commission. He remarked that they would be able to use the alley to get
to the garage. He said that most of the lots in the area are the same size and use the alley.
MOllOII
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Clark to close the
public hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Szany said that the proposed house is very attractive but does not fit on the lot.
The lot is 6300 sq. ft. which Is less than the required 7500 sq, ft. and the proposed house may
look like a box if the bay windows and the overhangs were deleted even though it would eliminate
some of the requested modifications, The proposed house extends from property line to property
line and is not In proportion with the lot. He wasconcemed about the use of the alley which is
not easy to move around in and noted that it Would be very tight. He felt that architecturally the
house Is too big for the lot. He notedthatthe lots in that area are abnormally small and he was
concemed that this would~set a precedent.
Commissioner Hedlund wasconcemed about the use of the alley. He commented that he didn't
want to penalize. this particular owner but the proposal is too much house for the lot and does
not fit well.
Commissioner Amato commented that although it Is a nice design, it doesn't fit the lot.
Commissioner Clark agreed and said that the house Is too large for the lot.
Chairman Papay said thatthis Is a small lot and difficult to work with.
The Commission was informed of the options that it has of continuing the hearing to allow the
applicant to revise his plans to accommodate Commission's concems, or to deny the request and
give the~pllcant the opPOrtunity to appeal the denial to the City Council.
Commissioner Szany feit that many of the modifications would not be necessary if the house was
smaller.
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It was moved by Commissioner Amato, Seconded by Commissioner Clark to re-open the
public hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Mr. Garside commented that'this area of the City Is the lowest priced area where young couples
can still afford to buy. The proposed house covers less than 45% of the lot which is the
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permitted coverage by Code. His proposed house is 10' shorter than the new homes that are
being constructed .to the west. He said that he didn't want to put the garage on .the side because it
would take away from the width of the lot and the garage would then take half of the front.yard.
He noted that if the garage was on the side they would lose both landscaping and view from the
house. He asked whatthe Commisslonwould approve.
Mike Miller discouraged the Commission from advising the applicant about what the Commission
will and will not approve. He explained that the applicant should redesign based on the
Commissions' comments and feelings.
Commissioner Szany didn't think the design fits well on the lot and that it would be beneficial to
the,street. He thought there should ~ more space between houses.
Mr. Garside asked the Commission to continue ihe hearing to Its next meeting.
M01"IC::N
It was moved by Commissioner Amato. seconded by Commissioner Clai1no continue the
public hearing to August 23. 1988.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato. Clark. Hedlund. Szany, Papay
N:ES: None
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Consideration of modifications for a new
two-story house and an attached garage.
(referred from the Modification
Committee).
The staff report was presented and the public hearing was opened.
PUBUC HEARING MC 88-65
356 Laurel Ave.
Frederick Garside
Frederick Garside. 350 Laurel. said that he was in agreement with all of the conditions in the
staff report. He said that he would be willing to reduce the height ofthe wall to 3' and put a 3'
wrought iron fence on the 3' wall.
Staff commented that the wall will be on the property line.
MOOON
It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by CommissionerAmato to close the
public hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Szany felt that this house fits on the lot and he liked the proposal.
The consensus of the Commission was favorable.
MOOON
It was moved by Commissioner Clark. seconded by Commissioner Amato to approve MC
88-65 subject to the conditions in the staff report.
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RESOLUTION 1382
A resolution approving MP 88-022, for a
proposed one-story dwelling with attached
garage and overruling the Santa Anita
Village Architectural Review Board's at
1010 Coronado Dr.
RESOLlJTION 1383
A resolution granting C.U.P. 88~016 to
expand an existing eating establishment
from 12 to 32 persons at 46 W. Las Tunas
Dr.
Ms. Butler read the titles of the resolutions.
MOroN
It was ",oved by Commissioner Amato, seconded by Commissioner Szany to adopt
Resolulions1382 and 1383 and to formally affirm the decision of July 26, 1988,
reflecting the findings of the Commission and the votes thereon.
ROLLCAll.:
AYfS Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Szany, Papay
ra:s: None .
There is a five working day'appeal period after the adoption of the resolution.
MATTERS FROM COUNCIL
None
MATTERS FROM COMMISSION
Commissioner Hedlund mentioned about the dish antenna being visible from Wistaria and asked
if staff could look irito that matter and commented on the manner which it was mounted. He also
remarked aboutchlmnys being higher than the roof of the house.
Mike Miller noted that if the dish antenna regulations are being challenged, a text amendment
could be done to mitigate that.
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Commissioner Szany .was concerned about lots that are below the 7500 sq. ft. limit.
The Commission was concerned about the lots on the east;side which are below the 7500 sq. ft.
minimum wllich use the alley as access to the garages in the rear and wondered what
alternatives they have in remedying that potential problem.
Ms. Butler commented that if regulations were established for maximum floor area allowed, it
should be for the whole Cily and not for just one'specific area. She said she could prepare 'a
report and submit it to the Commission at a later meeting with options in regard to the fire
place encroachments into the setback. At the present a maximum encroachment of 2' is allowed
into the side setback which means there is a 3' clearance to the property .line.
MAlJERS FROM STAFF
None
ADJOURNMENT
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