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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMAY 10, 1988 r/j,. I . . . , Planning Commission proceedings are tape recorded and on file in the office of the Planning Department. M I NUT E S ARCADIA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETI NG Tuesday, May 10, 1988 The Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia met in regular session on Tuesday, May 10, 1988 at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Arcadia city HaD, 240 West Huntington Drive, with Chairman Dave Szany preSiding.. PLEDGE OF AlLEGIANCE ROll CALL PRESENT: Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Papay, SzanY ABSENT: None MINUTES MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Papay to approve the Minutes of April 26, 1988 as pUblished. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Papay, seconded by Hedlund to read all resolutions by title only and waive reading the full body of the resolution. OTHERS ATTENDING: Councilwoman Mary Young City Attorney Mi cbaelto1jller . Director of Planning William Woolard Associate Planner Corkran Nicholson Associate Pl,anner Wilfred Wong Assistant Planner James Kasama Secretary Silva Vergel . . CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING TPM 88-006 The prope rty bounded by Santa Anita ,Ave. Floral Ave., Foothill Blvd. and Tinda10 Rd. Ace Civil Engineei'ing'for . D' Egidi 0 Brothers' Development Consideration of a tentative parcel map for a lot line adjustment. Two lots will be created from two lots. The staff report was presented and the public hearing was opened. Mike Masoodnia, Ace Civil Engineering, 2335 Honolulu, Montrose, the engineer for the project stated that no new lots will be created. The proposed building will be a one-story retail building. He commented that they are in agreement with all of the conditions in the staff report. Art D'Egidio, 1710 Bayon St, Pasadena, ex,lpained that there were no specific uses as yet and that there could be 5 retail uses on the site each approximately 1000 sq. ft. Joe Logsdon, 919 Rod~o. commented that he favored offices because they are usually closed at 5:00 wher:eas stores could remain open to as late as midnight. He stated that traffic on Foothill is very congested and a retail store would only add to that problem. William Dillon, 131 W. Forest, said that he has seen up to service station 20 cars parked on the service stat.ion and feared that a retail center would just add to the parking and would force ,the patrons to park on the streets. Charlene Peay, 28 W. Floral, felt there would be some problems with litter from retail uses. I n rebuttal, Mr. D 'Egidi 0 remarked that he didn I t know what type of a use wou1 d go on the site. Staff noted that parking for a retail center is 5 spaces for 1000 sq. ft., and indicated that the applicant is not Obligated to lease to 5 different types of uses. It waS mentioned that C~2 is a general commercial zone and there would not be adequate parki ng for medical offices. Code wil 1 all ow a takeout eati ng establishment wi thoutany .seats, or: ta)Jels. Staff com.!1le'lte( that this proj_ect has gone through architectural design review and parking and landscaping meet code. MOTION It was moved by Commi~sioner Amato, seconded by Commissioner Clark to close the public hearing. The mot,ion passed by voice vote with none dissent i ng. Arcadia City Planning Commission 5{10{88 Page 2 . . Commissioner Papay noted that the owner can build on the lot without going through this procedure for a lot line adjustment. He stated that the request is for the lot line adjustment and not for the type of uses that might go there. He said that if the request is granted, certain retail uses would require reivew and approval by the Commission. Commissioner Hedlund agreed with Commissioner Papay. Mike Miller noted that anything that would need approval by the Commission would require notice in the paper and public hearing with notices mailed to the nei ghbors. Commissioner Amato felt that Foothill Blvd. is already too congested and was concerned with the amount of traffic. Chairman Szany was concerned with the driveway leading to Floral Avenue. Mr. Woolard explained the lot line adjustment and said that if a commercial lot is immediately adjacent to residential there would be a requirement for a 6' wall and as' 1 andscapi ng buffer but in thi s situation there is the street and the 5' landscape puffer and the parking area which actualiy gives more of separation than in other situations where residential uses are adjacent to C-2 zone. He noted that the Commi ssion shoul d grant or deny the lot 1 i ne adjustment only and not what uses may go on the site. . MOTION It was moved by Comini ssi oner Papay, seconded by Commi ssioner Hedl und to approve T.P.M. 88-6 subject to the conditions in the staff report. ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Hedlund, Papay, Szany NOES: Commissioners Amato, Clark There ,is a ten day appeal period. , . ' -------------------------------------- PUBLIC HEARING MC B8-028 152 Winnie Way (fonnerly 1625 S. Second Ave.) Westco Land, Inc. Consideration of modifications for a proposed two-stroy house. The staff report was presented and the public hearing was opened. George Wiegand, 1425 Melanie Lane, the applicant stated that the main issue discussed at the Planning Commission's hearong on the Tract was the issue of privacy for one neighbor and said that upon their request no windows would be facing her yard and a 6' high wall be built. Arcadia Citj Planning Commission 5/10/88 Page 3 . . Ben Kau, 1623 lee Avenue, commented that the proposed house i,s directly behind his property and strongly objected to a 7' setback and said that he would lose hi s privacy. Linda and Jerry Johnson, 1625 lee Avenue, spoke against the, reque~ted modification. They felt that the situatic)O is self imposed and the neighbors should not have to pay for it. They tought that 7' setback was an invasion of privacy. . Marge Tudor, 1624 lee Avenue, spoke against the project. Roger Johnson, 140 E. Camino Real, commented that there would be a loss of privacy with new two~story homes. In rebuttal, Mr. Wiegand said that the wall situation has been resolved. Staff noted that in order to provide a 6' high walla modification wou,ld be required becuase the wall on Mr. Kau's side would be 71/2'. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Papay, seconded by Commissioner Clark to close the public hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting. . Commi ssioner Cl a rk commented that he vi sited the site and he was not in favor of the 7' setback because it would be too close to Mr. Kau's house. Chai nnan Szany noted that the subject lot is one of the largest lots in the cul- de-sac. Commis~ioner Papay said that the lots in the subject cul-de~sac are oddly shaped and felt that the design should fit the lot and not use the modification procedure to fit the lot to the desi gn. He didn '.t thi nk that a 7' setback was acceptable. . MOTION It was..mo,ved by Commi ssjoner .Cl.~rk, seconded by Commi ssi oner Papay to deny Me 88-28 becuase it would not secure an 'appropr;ate improveme'n't and direcY staff to prepare the appropriate resolution. ROll CALL: AYES: NOES: There is a Commiss'ioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Papay, Szany None five worki ng day appea,l period after the adoption of the resolutio,n. Arcadi a City Planning Commission 5/10/88 Page 4 . . PUBLIC HEARING TPM 88-008 1121 El Monte Ave. and 220 W. Duarte Rd. Henry Spurgeon Consideration of a tentative parcel map for a proposed lot line adjustment (no new lots wi.] 1 be created). ***T"IS ITEM HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO MAY 24. 1988*** MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Papay. seconded by Commissioner Amato to continue the public hearing to May 24, 1988. ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Papay. Szany NOES: None PUBLIC HEARING TPM 88-009 2819 and 2825 Caroline Way Lee Valentine Cons.ideration of a tentative parcel map for to create 3 lots from 2 lots. The staff report was presented and the public hearing was opened. Rick Schrodes, Civiltec Engineering, 2610 California, Monrovia the, applicant. He commented that the proposed lot split would be consistent with the General Plan and the zoni ng ordinan<;eand note(j that they are in agreement with all of the conditions in the staff report. They don't have the design for the house on lot 3. Staff indicated that lots 1 and 2 would be facing Caroline Way and lot 3 would face Live Oak. John Butler, 2812 Holly, said that he recently purchased this property and was concerned that he woul d lose the vi ew and hi s privacy by a two-story home on lot 3. He remarked that 10ts.I and 2 are goi ng to be very small and I'/as affraid th~t it might affect property values. Nathen Rei 1 ey, 2811 Holly" commented that his backya rd woul d abut the side yard of lot 3 and remarked that he couldn't visualize how this would enhance the area. He was concerned with the size of the homes that would be built on the new lots. Joanne Wayne, 2817 Holly, was concern,ed about the loss of a big lot, who will buy the houses and with the increased traffic. . In rebuttal, Mr. Schrodes, said that the new house will comply with the new regulations. Arcadia City Pl anni ng Commi ssion 5/10/88 Page 5 . . MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none di ssent ing. Chai nnan Szany commented that the square footage of lot 3 well exceeds the, minimum requirement. He sympathized with the neighbors on Holly and said that for years their back yard has been adjacent to another back yard and now if this request is granted they would have a slde yard abutting their back yard. He said that lot 3 would create problems for 3 neighbors on Holly. Commissioner Clark wondered if the code is doing what it originally was set out to do. Commissioner Papayccmmented that lot 3 due to its orientation would create prOblems for the 3 lots on Holly. He noted that if the applicant desired he could build two very 1.arge homes on the two lots due to the size of the property. He wondered if the side yard setback, could be increased to 10' in lieu of the 5' Commissioner Amato agreed with Commissioner Papay. Commissioner Hedlund commented that the Commiission does not have to approve the request just because it complies if it cause hardship for the neighbors. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Papay, seconded by ,Commissioner tlark to re~ open the public hearing. Mr. Schrodes suggested cond.itioning lot 3 to only have single-story dwelling. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Amato, seconded by Commissioner Papay to close the public hearing. Mike Mlller advised that the Commission can approve this request conditioning lot 3 to single-story dwel-ling and said-.that-the a'ppropriate documents would be drawn up to ensure that condition. Chairman Szany summarized the conditions and said that the height of the building not to exceed 20' and the side yard setback on the west side to be a minimum of 10'-0" . Arcadia City Planning Commission 5110/88 Page 6 . . MOTION It was moved byCommissi oner Cl ark, seconded by Commi ssi oner Amato to approve TPM 88-009 subject to the condition that a covenant and/or any other agreement deemed necessary by the City Attorney shall be recorded for lot 3 restricting the dwelling on lot 3 to single-story and a maximum height of 20'-0". Also, a minimum 10'-0" westerly side yard setback shall be maintained for all structures and buildings. Said ~ovenant shall be recorded prior to or concurrent with the recordation of the final parcel map. Said covenant shall be subject to the approval of the Planning Department and City Attorney. ROLL CALL: AYES: NOES: Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Papay, Szany None Therei sa ten day appeal period. PUBLlC HEARING CUP 88-010 145 E. Duarte Rd., Suite B Adri enne L. Graci.a Consideration of a conditional use permit' to operate a toni rig health salon in which fitness programs are conducted uding passive isometric exercise machines. The staff report was presented the public hearing was opened. Adrienne Gracia. 5419 Cochen, stated that they have plenty of parking and that she is in agreement with all of the conditions in the staff report. She remarked that there would be no more than 6 patrons at anyone time and hours of operation on Saturdays would be from 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting. Commissioner ,Clark approved of the proposed use. Commissioner Papay was pleased that there would be a max.imum of 6 patrons and that there is no parking problem. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Papay, seconded by Commissioner Amato to approve CUP 88-010 subject to the conditions in the staff report. Arcadi a City Planning Commi:ssion 5/10/88 Page 7 . . ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Papay, Szany NOES: None There is a five working day appeal period after the adoption of the resolution. PUBLIC HEARING MP 88-016 5935 S.Baldwin Ave. Simon and Wendy Shum Consideration of modifications for ,a proposed 4-unit condominium project. The staff report was presented the public hearing was opened. Simon Shum, 31 E. Colorado, the designer of the project said that the proposal would enhance the existing area. The reason for the requested modifications are due to the narrow width of the lot. He commented that the a/c units would be either underneath the stai rs ori n the attiC. John Mudnich, asked how many units would they be able to build if they didn't ask for any modification. 'He commented that he is not opposed to improving the area but felt that there is too much bui 1 di ng and densHyfor the lot. He asked the Commission to deny the request. Chainnan Szany commented that they probably would only be able to build one unit and explained that even if they were to build 2 units they would still require all but one of the requested modifications. Joe Alacantre, 49 W. Camino Real, was there to represent the Temple City Baptist Church and said that there are too many modifications requested. He felt that anything would be better than what is existing but thought 4-units are too much for the property. MOTION It was moved by Cominissioner Amato, seconded by Commissioner Papay to close the public hearing. The motion passed by' voice vote with none diSsenti n9. Staff commented that the parking lot to the south belongs to the church and they need all the parking. Commissioner Hedlund felt that it is too much density and suggested a ,duplex. Chainnan Szany noted that the lot is deeper than most of the 50' wide lots in the city. He commented that it is a tight design but fits very well. Arcadi a City Planning Commfssion 5110/88 Page 8 . . Commiss,ioner Clark liked the project and said that it is a nice development. Commissioner Papay said that if nothing is done the existing situation will continue to get worse. He said that the property is zoned multiple-family and the modifications are due to the narrow lot. MOTI 0 N It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Papay to approve MP 88-16 subject to the conditions in the staff report. ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Papay, Szany NOES: None There is a five working day appeal period. _______J______________________________ PUBLIC HEARING CUP 88-011 815 Noami Ave. John Karamaras and Tom Darlas Consideration of a conditional use, permit to operate an eating establi:shment with seating for 33 patrons and a modification request for parking. The staff report was presented the public hearing was opened. John .Karamaras, 9414 E. eami no Real, the appl i cant was present and said that they are in agreement ,with aJ I of the conditions in the staff report. It would be sit down and take out and they would, be serving sandwiches and no alcholic beverages will be se rved,. Rebecca Fortshnzider, 810 Naani, president of the homeowners association, said that they have always had problems with the center. She commented that the yogurt shop attracts many younger people who loiter in the parking lot after closing and make a lot of noise, play loud music and speed in the parking lot even after the speed. bumps were put in and this causes many prOblems for the neighbors directly across the street. She asked that this request be denied. - - - Adra Richmond, 800 W. Naomi, al so spoke about the noi se and the confusi on in the evenings. She said that they can never park on Naomi and it is extremely difficult to go in and out of thei r driveways. MOTION It was moved by Canmissioner Amato, seconded by Commissioner Clark to Close the publ ic heari,ng. The mot:;on passed by voice vote with none di ssent i ng. Arcadi a City Planning Commission 5110/88 Page 9 . . Commissioner Amato was concerned with the parki ng and said that he has been there on Friday evenings and Saturday mornings and there is no place to park and felt that another eating establishment would add to the problem. Commissioner Hedlund agreed and said that there the site but hadn't noticed a problem on Naomi. would be an ide,al use for the subject .site. is usually a parking problem on He thought that a gift shop Staff noted that on several site inspections the maximum number of cars on Naomi haven't exceeded 7. It may be more congested towa rds Hi nshaws but in this vicinity by Vons there is always parkin'g on Naomi. The Planning Department hasn't re<:eived any calls pertaining to parking problems and Golden West Properties (owners) are also concerned with parking and try to control the situation. Commissioner Papay commented that the proposed shopi s the closest to the residential properties on Naomi and his main concern was not whether there is sufficient parking but that it would be difficult to get all the patrons to park close to the shop. If they shop at Vons they probably would want to park closer to the eating establishment rather than walk to it across the parking lot. The part,icular spot is probably the worst spot for an eat.ing establishment becuase of its proximity to the residential zone and an eating establishment that has take out can lead to problems. He remarked that the on site parking is not focused for the shops to the west side and was mainly against the location of the proposed shop. Chai nnan Szany said that he was at the center on Chri simas Eve (one of the busiest times of the year) and he was ,able to find a parking spot without any problems. He indicated that he never had a problem parking there and they shop there quite often. He was concerned about the proposed shop being too close to the residential areas on Naomi. He stated tha,t there might bea tendency to want to park on the street for take out o,rders but wasn't sure if that woul d create a problem. He said that an eating establishment is not the best use for the end unit. Commissioner Clark said that he has been there on weekends and had never noticed any problems. Mike Miller stated that the Commission should determine whether to approve or disapprove the c.u.p.- and not what type of a use should go in the eriil 'unit. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Hedlund, seconded by Commissioner Amato to deny CUP 88-011 and direct staff to prepare the approrpiate resolution i ncorporati ng the Commi ssion' s decisi ons and fi ndi ngs. Arcadi a City PI anni ng Commissi on 5/10/88 Page 10 . . ROLL CALL: .... AYES: Commissioner Amato, Clark. Hedlund, Papay, Szany NOES: None There is a five wOrl<ing day appeal period after the adoption of the resolution. -------------~--------------_._------- AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION None WAIVER OF PARCEL MAP TPM 88-005 252 W. Longden Ave. and 255 W. Walnut Ave. Mr. and Mrs. Harold Hansen Consideration of a request for waiver of final parcel map. RESOLUTION 1370 A resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia waiving the requirements of a parcel map for the properties at 252 W. Longden Avenue and 255 W. Walnut Avenue. Mr. Woolard read the title o,f the resolution. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Papay, seconded by Commissioner Cla~k to adopt Resolution 1370 and to formally affirm the decision of May 10, 1988, refl ecting thefi ndi ngs of the Commi ssion and the votes thereon. ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Papay, Szany NOES: None RESOLUTION 1365 A resolution granting MC 88-014, denying the appeal and approving modification for an attached pa~io structure to have a 10' -0" rear setback, to the support posts, and overhangs to maintain a 7'-0" c,learance from the rear property line at 1619 Oakhaven Drive. Arcadia City Planning Commission 5/10/88 Page 11 . . RESOLUTION 1366 A resol ut i on denyi ng MP 88-010, overrul i ng the appeal and upholding the Rancho Santa Anita Architecutral Review Board's approval with the condition that the height of the living room be reduced from 14' to 12' 'to comply with the new regulations at 52,5 Campes<ina. RESOLUTION 1367 A resolution granting CUP 88-007, to construct a 1,280 square foot ecclesiastic office and training facility for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Sai nts at 150 W. Duarte Road. RESOLUTION 1368 A resol ution granting CUP 88-008 for the expansion of the existing auto body garage at 42 W. Live Oak Avenue. RESOLUTION 1369 A resolution granting CUP 88-006 to construct a new service station at 679 W. Duarte Road. Mr. Woolard read the titles of the resolutions. MOTION It was moved by Commi,ssioner Papay, seconded by Commissioner Clark to adopt Resolut,ions 1365,1366,1367,1368 and 1369 and to fonnally affinn the decision of April 26, 1988, reflecting the findings of the Commission and the votes thereon. ROLL CALL: AYES: NOES: Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Papay, Szany None .- . - There is a five working day appeal period after the adoption of the resolution. MATTERS FROM COUNCIL None -------------------------------------- Arcadia City Planning Commission 5/10/88 Page 12 . . MATTERS FROM COMMISSION Commissioner Clark was concerned about develop.ing .lots and felt that there should be some way of controli ng the impact on the neighborhood. He wondered if the lot sizes could be enlarged. ,Mr. Woolard said that when a developer approaches the city to develop a lot, the Planning Department tries to inform the developer as to potential problems with developing the lot. The Planning Department has to advise both the neighbors and the developer how to support or oppose a particular project. He suggested hav'ing something in the Code in regard to reverse corner lots if there is a consensus that they are not desirable. . Commissioner Hedlund felt that it is important to have a provlslon in the code against reverse corner lots. In regard to the units on Baldwin, he commented that they are encouraging maximum density in the City and said he would prefer to see less units than what the maximum allowed. He asked if developers could be required to go through the c.u.p. procedure for cul~de-sacs. Councilwoman Young said that the developers try to get as much a,s they can and remarked that the developer should try and design a house that fits the lot. She felt that the Commission should suggest the changes to the Council and Counci I will discuss the changes. Commissioner Papay spoke about the back, yard vs. the side yard situation on the lot split on Caroline Way, He felt that there should be some type of buffer to reduce the impact of the cul-de-sac on the homes surrounding the cul-de-sac where there has been an increased number of homes. He wondered if the Commission should suggest increasing R-l 7,500 to R~1 10,000. He thought that in considering new subdivisions the Commission should keep in mind how the new .homes will affect the surroundi ng neighbors. Both Commissioners Hedlund and Papay sympathized with the neighbors whom the side yards of the new lots woul d abut thei r back yard. Mr. Woolard explained the de,finition for rear lot line. It makes it difficult to develop lots as proposed. He commented that the project on Baldwin would need modifications even if there were only 2 units pl"oposed due to the 50' wide lot. He remarked that if the Commission is concerned with density then they should suggest i ncreasl.ng the density -requi rement to CounCi I, ratnerthan trying'to' limit density through the modificat.ion procedure. Commissioner Amato discussed the project on Baldwin and was in favor of increasing the lot sizes in the R-l zone. Chairman Szany felt that the project on Baldwin had excellent design and complied with the new density requirements. He 'indicated that the City of Monrovia has several residential zones and will not allow condominiums to have less than 5 uni ts. Arcadia City Planning Commission 5/10/88 Page 13 , . . .. . .' Staff said that they always try to convey Commission's feelings to the developers. Staff will try to outline the concerns expressed by the Commission, for discussion at the June 14th meeting. The Commission's concerns would then be forwarded to the City Council. ------------------~------------------- MATTERS FROM STAFF None ADJOURNMENT Adjourned at 10:30 p.m. /.. /1,1. /f-'.rl-c 1.'1',.. J .tJZf-!.-taA.,v ," .}{.!u -V. .(/x. _ Secretary, Arcadia Planning Commission Arcadia City Planning Commission 5/10/88 Page 14