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Planning Commission proceedings are tape recorded and on lile in the office of the Planning Department.
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ARCADIA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
REGUlAR MEETING
Tuesday, August 8, 1989
The Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia met in regular session on Tuesday, August 8, 1989 at
7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Arcadia City Hall, 240 West Huntington Drive. with Chairman
Larry Papay presiding.
PLEDGE OF All.EGlANCE
ROLL CAlL:
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Amato. Clark, Hedlund, Szany, Papay
None .
OTHERS ATTENDING:
Councilman Charles Gilb
City Attorney Michael Miller
Planning Director William Woolard
Senior Planner Donna Butler
Associate Pianner Corkran Nicholson
i\ssociate Planner Wilfred Wong
Secretary Silva Vergel
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MC>TloN
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It was moved by Commissioner Clar1<, seconded by Commissioner Amato to approve the Minutes of
July 25, 1989 as published. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting,
MOllON
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It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Clar1< to read aU resolutions
by title only and waive reading the full body of the resolution. The motion passed by voice vote
with none dissenting.
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PUBLIC HEARING CUP 89-011
29 E. Huntington Dr.
Lyle Patterson
Consideration of a conditional use permit to expand
the existing Steerburger Bar/Restaurant and
related modifications for the dish antenna, parking
and landscaping.
The staff report was presented.
Staff commented that the Fire Department has limited the seating to 85.
The public hearing was opened.
Peter Panta. 6454 Golden West. was representing the applicant and said that they are in agreement
with all of the conditions in the staff report. He noted that they had no problems with moving the dish
antenna.
There were no additional persons desiring to speak in favor or in opposition.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Clark. seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public
hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with at dissention.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the proposed expansion woulcl be an improvement.
MOllON
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to approve CUP
89-011 subject to the conditions in the staff report.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato, Clark. Hedlund. Szany, Papay
~ None
Chairman Papay noted that there Is a five working day appeal period after the adoption of the
resolution.
PUBLIC HEARING CUP 89-012
36 E. Live Oak Ave.
Bonnie L Cho
Consideration of a conditional use permit for a
school. Maximum number of students 69,
students will be 18 years of age or younger.
The staff report was presented.
Staff noted that this is similar to the Kumon school The Fire Department requires 20 sq. ft. for each
student.
The public hearing was opened.
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Bonnie Cho, 517 W. Palm, the applicant stated that she is in agreement with all of the conditions in the
staff report. She explained that the average student will attend twice a week and remarked that this
would not be like a classroom type school and the program is Individualized. The classes will be
approximately 40 minutes and the length of class will depend on the age of the students. The classes for
younger students would be shorter than older students since their attention span is shorter than the
older students. She noted that she Is asking for a maximum of 69 students.
Julie Hoff, 275 W. Foothill, asked if the restrooms would comply with the .Building Code and Staff
commented that they would have to comply with all Building Code regulations.
MOTlON
It was moved by Commissioner Clark"seconded by Commissioner Szany to close the public
hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Hedlund thought the use was too intense for the property. He was concerned about the
parking. He thought that this was a much worse situation than the school on Foothill Boulevard.
Chaionan Papay said that if the Commission approved the CUP, they can limit the maximum number
of students at anyone time.
Commissioner Clark agreed with Commissioner Hedlund and said that 69 students would be maximum
utilization of the area and thought the number approved should be reduced.
Commissioner Szany said that he has dealt with this site in the past and explained that his children
take classes in the immediate area and noted that he has never had any problems with the parking. He
said that most of the parking lot is empty by the time he takes his children which is about 4:00 pm
and remarked that he drops them off in the back and the parking lot is almost empty, approximately
4-5 cars.
Commissioner Hedlund said that they have access from both the street and the parking lot.
Staff remarked t~at condition 8 of the staff report is to allow staff to review the situation in one year
and take any action necessary. The school on Foothill Blvd. is 400 sq. ft. and is for 10-12 students.
Commissioner Amato wondered if the front door could be utilized as an emergency exit only?
Staff remarked that that would restrict walk-ins and staff is not against the walk-in traffic.
Commissioner Hedlund didn't like that idea. He felt that the use is too intense.
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Chairman Papay said that condition 8 In the staff rElport makes the applicant aware that during the
upcoming year the property will be monitored and if any complaints are received the Commission can
reiliew the CUP and can possibly revoke it.
CommissionerSzany suggested reducing the number of students to a maximum of 40 students at any
one time and after the firSt year the applicant can request an increase in that number.
In response to some questions by the Commission, Mike Miller, the City Attorney, said that if the
applicant decides to modify the CUP and increase the number of students, she would have to pay the
CUP fee and only the City Council can waive that fee. If the Commission reviews the CUP then the
applicant would not have'to pay any fee. If any complaints are received and the CUP comes before the
CommissiOn then there'would be no fee.
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Chairman Papay was in favor of the 40 students and said that the Commission can review the CUP for
the possibility of increasing the number of students to 69.
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It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Clark to re-open the public
hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Ms. Cho explained that there would not be a substantial Increase in the number of cars because there
would be more than 1 child in most cars and the students would carpool. She anllclpated a maximum
of;20 cars and said that some of the children walk, ride a bike or their skateboards to the school. The
students would be from the Immediate area and wouid not be traveling from other cities.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Clark. seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public
hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Chairman Papay was concemed with the parking and the traffic flow and noted that the applicant can
come back prior to the one year'to increase the number of students.
It was noted that Uve Oak Is a highly traveled street. between the hours 4-6 pm.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Amato to approve CUP 89-
012 subject to the conditions in the staff report with the additional condition 13 to state that
the Planning Commission car) review the, CUP in its first meeting in August 1990 for possible
expansion and that condition 3 to be modified to read a maximum of 40 students.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commisslone'!l Amato. Clark. Hedlund. Szany. Papay
II(ES: None
Chairman Papay noted that there is a five working day appeal period after the adoption of the
resolullon.
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PUBLIC HEARING 1M 48195
400-404 Genoa St. .
Jennifer Shia
Consideration of a tentative{llap for a 6-unit
residential condominium project.
The staff report was presented and the public hearing was opened.
No one spoke in favor or in opposition to the'tentative map.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Szany. seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public
hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
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MOTJa\I
It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Szany to approve TM
48195 subject to the conditions in the staff report.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato, Clarlt, Hedlund, Szany, Papay
t-.eeS: None
Chairman Papay noted that there is a ten day appeal period.
PUBLIC HEARING MP 89-009
927 Victoria
. Mr. and Mrs. Frank Hung
Consideration of an appeal by the homeowner of
the Santa Anita Village Homeowner Association's
conditional approval of a 6'-0. high redWood fence
along the easterly properly line.
The. staff report was presented.
Mr. Miller suggested that the Commission go with staffs recommendation and reminded the board of its
limitations.
The pubnc hearing was opened.
Mr. and Mrs. Frank HiJng, 927 Victoria, said that there is no easement between the properties.
David Freeman, 150 N. Santa Anita, was the attorney representing the Sommers at 921 Victoria Drive.
He remarked that the Sommers have had the usage of this property for over 20 years and if the fence
was to be built where. proposed It would be very difficult for the Sommers to get to and from their
garage. The fence would be aesthetically displeasing and Incompatible. He remalked that there was an
agreement for the Sommers' to utilize the portion of the driveway.
Mr. Miller noted that the dispute between the two property owners doas not come under the jurisdiction
of the either the Village Homeowners Association or the Planning Commission.
Mr. Hung stated that thllre..was never an agreement to allow the Sommers the use of that portion of the
driveway.
MOTJa\I
It was moved by Commissioner Clarlt, seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public
hearing. The molion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Hedlund feltthat the fence would'create undo hardship for the Sommers and was against
the appeal.
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Commissioner Hedlund made an appeal to uphold the Architectural Review Board's decision and the
motion failed due to a lack of a second.
Chairman papay said that this is beyond both the ARB's and the Commission's jurisdiction.
Commissioner Hedlund thought that the fence would be aesthetically an eye sore.
It was noted that the, ARB had determined that the fence material was compatible.
Mr. Miller said that the Code does not take into consideration any hardship and it is not under the
Commission jurisdiction.
MoTION
It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Amato to approve MP 89-
009 and to reverse the ARB's decision and to recommend to the City Council to refund the
appeal fee to the applicant.
ROLL CALL:
AYES:
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Commissioners ;t\mato, Clark, Szany, Papay
Commissioner Hedlund
Chairman Papay noted thaNhere is a fIVe working day appeal period.
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PUBLIC HEARING MP 89-010
851 Palo Alto Dr.
Mr. and Mrs. John Falre
Consideration of an appeal by the homeOwner of
the Santa Anita Village Architectural Review
Board's denial of a proposed lWo-story addition to
the existing residence.
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The staff report was presented.
Staff explained that the Architectural Review Board (ARB) denied the proposed addition based on
incompatibility. He-explained :thatthe porch has a setbaCk of 32'-0" in-lieu of -35"0", Sncrthe bay
window has a setback of 33'-6" In lieu of 35-0". No modification is required for the oval window on
the second-fioor. The entry behind the porch is in line with the existing entry way. The bay window
Is an architectural feature.
The public hearing was opened.
Doug Olbrich, 330 La Serena, West Covlna, the contractor of the project subi'nitted several pictures
to the Commission of similar homes in the Immediate area. The original proposal was French
provincial and the design was changed at the request of the ARB who didn'lllke the stucco look and
preferred wood siding, which looks more like ranch style homes, and a wood shake roof to be
compatible with the existing homes in the neighborhood. He remarked that no modification is
required for the entry.
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Mr. Faire, 339 Val/ombrosa, Pasadena, said that their house will look like the house at 1010
Coronado with the exception that it will be a two-story home. The house has a very nice design and
will be compatible with the area. The. bay window and the porch will enci'oach180 into the front yard
setback. The proposed house will blend in nicely with the existing homes in the area. The
neighborhood Is not made up of tract homes and each house is of a different style and design. Most of
the homes are custom made which enhances the-area.
Charles George, 331 S. Old Ranch, an ARB member said that the were not agalnstthe two-story
portion ot the house but didn't like the modifications. They were concerned with the tower look over
the entry way, and although it is not a turret it looks like one. They thought that it should be lowered
not-to look like a tower.
Tom Crosby, 601 S. Old Ranch, the president ot the ARB said thatthey were against the style 01 the
roof. They would like to see it Softened up a bit from the outside and, still have the same affect from
the inside.
James and Rita Curtis, 850 Palo Alto Dr., felt that the style ot the new house is out of character with
the neighborhood. He saldthatthe modification lor the porch was never brought up at the ARB
meetings.
In rebuttal, Mr. Olbrich said the plans have not been changed and the ARB had the same plans that the
Commission is reviewing.
Commissioner Hedlund suggested that the house be redesigned to bring into more compatibility with
the area.
Mr, Faire said that the house is compatible with the area and fits in well. The house is not an
ostentatious house and it doesn't have the towering affect, rather It Is a simple structure.
Mr. Olbrich said that they will have all wood windows and all the features will reflect a ranch style
house which is the style in the Village.
MOllON
It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Clark to close the public
hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Commissioner Clark said that the second-story over the entry is out of balance and needs to be modified
so it"is 'notoutorscale: He wasn't against the nfoClillCation 'for the setbackS for1he porCh and the bay -
window.
Both Commissioners Amato and Szany agreed with Commissioner Clark.
Commissioner Hedlund suggested giving the applicant the option and the opportunity to soften up the
house and recommencled,continuing the hearing.
MOllON
It was moved by Commissioner Hedlund. seconded by Commissioner Szany to re-open the public
hearing. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting.
Mr. Olbrich sald that they will try to redesign and were in favor of continuing the hearing.
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Mr. Crosby asked if the ARB would be notified to review the plans and what if the plans were changed
drastically?
Chairman Papay said thanhe plans would not go baclc'to the ARB. If the Planning Commission denies,the
appeal then any subsequent plans woulcl go to the ARB for its review. The only things that should change
on the plans should be the architectural features.
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It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to continue the hearing
to August 22, 1989.
ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato, Ciark, Hedlund, Szany, Papay
ro:s: None
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AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
Tom, Crosby, 601 S. Old Ranch, asked how.many dogs,cana resident In the City have and is raising
pedigree dogs against the Code and does it need a license.
Biil Woolard, Planning Director, said'that the maXimum number of dogs are three dogs and no
business license is needed for raising pedigree dogs.
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RESOWTION 1413
A resolution granting CUP ,89-009 for truck
instruction and outdoor repair and
maintenance of driving school vehicles at
11629 Clark Street.
A resolution granting CUP 89-010 to operate
an art school at 19 E. Uve Oak Avenue.
RESOLUTION 1414
Mr. Woolard read the title ofthe resolutions.
M:>TION
It was moved by Commissioner Amato, seconded by Commissioner Clark to adopt Resolutions,
1413& 1414 to formally affirm the decision of June 21, 1989. reflecting the findings of the
Commission and the votes thereon.
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ROLL CALL:
AYES: Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Szany, Papay
t-as: None
Chairman Papay noted that there is a fIVe working day appeal period.
MATTERS FROM COUNCIL
Councilman Gilb announced that at the next Council's meeting, there will be a presentation by
architect for the new senior citizen center.
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MATrERS FRdM COMMISSION
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ADJOURNMENT
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