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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMAY 23, 1989 I 'P II )t ,I - --=u ~ " . . Planning Commission proceedings are taped recorded and on file In the office of the Planning Department. MINUTES ARCADIA CITY PlANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING Tuesday, May 23, 1989 The Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia met In regular session on Tuesday, May 23, 1989 at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Arcadia City Hall, 240 West Huntington Drive, with Chairman Larry Papay presiding. PlEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLLCAU..: PRESENT: ABSENT: MOTION Commissioners Clark, Hedlund, Szany, Papay Cominissioner Amato It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Clark to excuse Commissioner Amato from tonighfs meeting. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting. Chairman papay noted that on page 8 of the Minutes, Mr; Hermosillo's name was misspelled. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Szany to approve the Minutes of May 9, 1989 as amended. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Hedlund to read all resolutions by tide only and waive reading the full body of the resolution. The motion passed by voice vote with none dissenting. Commissioner Amato arrived at 7:35 p.m. OTHERS ATTENDING: Mayor Roger Chandler City Attorney Michael Miller Planning Director William Woolard Associate Planner Corkran Nicholson Assistant Planner James Kasama Secretary Silva Vergel .. ... .. ... .. ... ... .. ... .. ... .. ... .. .. .. ... ... ... ... .. .. .. .. ... .. .. .. .. .. ... _.- ... .. .. Arcadia City Planning Commission 5/23/89 Page 1 1 (' . . .. PUBUC HEARING MP 89-004 601 SI. Fifth Ave. Ming-Nang Chen The staff report was presented Staff noted that units 2 and 3 are attached at the roof. Consideration of modifICations for a proposed 5-unit residential condominium project. The public hearing was opened. Mlng-Nang Chen, 404 E. Las Tunas Drive. #205, San Gabriel, the architect of the said that they are in agreement with all of the conditions in the staff report. Staff remarked that they would have to preserve as many trees possible and that a tree preservation plan is required, which Is subject to the review and approval of the Planning Department. In response to a question from the Commlssion,slaff said that the joining of the roof eliminated the need for an additional modification. There were no additional persons desiring to speak in favor or In opposition of the proposal. M011ClN It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public hearing. The motion pessed by voice vote with none dissenting. Commissioner Hedlund was concerned with the lack of landscaping along the side. the large units and the number of guest parking. He thought that the guest parking would be absorbed by the tenants and remarked that the units are very nice but large and the requested modifications are significant. He felt that the building is too large for the lot. Commissioner Szany said that although he liked the detached look he was concemed with the size of the units and no landscaping along the property line. He commented that the guest parking will be utilized by the tenants. He suggested reducing the size of the units. Commissioner Amato agreed and felt that the guest parking should not be separated. Commissioner Clark remarked that he preferred the detached units but the requested modifications are significant He was also concerned with the separate guest parking spaces. .~ - Chairman Papay noted that there are 5 units with 4.bedrooms each; totalling 20 bedrooms, and the total available parking space for the tenants are 13 spaces and he thought that If the occupants have more than 2 cars there would be an overflow of tenant parking Into the guest parking spaces especially since the guest parking is separated and located between the garages. Discussion ensued on whether the public hearing should be continued Instead of denied to allow the applicant to respond to the Commission's concems and Mr. Woolard noted that the changes suggested by the Commission are not minor and it probably would be best for them to start from the beginning. Mr. Miller concurred with Mr. Woolard based on the scope of changes. The consensus of the Commission was that the approval would not secure an appropriate improvement, because the development was too intense for the site and that the plans for the Arcadia City Planning Commission 5/23/89 Page 2 -.. '1 t . . . . landsCapIng of open spaces do not conform to the requirements set forth in the Arcadia Municipal QxB. MOT1ON It was moved by Commissioner Hedlund. seconded by Commissioner Amato to deny MP 89'004 based on Findings 0.1 and 0.6. ROLL CALl: AYES: Commissioners Amato, Clark, Hedlund, Szany, Papay IIKE3: None Chairman Papay noted that there Is a five working day appeal after the adoption of the resolution. ---_._---_.._-~---------------------- PUBUC HEARING CUP 89'006 805 N. First Ave. Vlctol'Y Chapal ConsideratIOn of a conditional use permit to expand the current preschool to 35 children, and to Include a ful!;.time school with lio students (kindergarten through 10th grade) within the existing facilities. No new construction is being proposed under this request. The staff report was presented. Staff remarked that the occupanCy Is determined by the Fira Department fOf safety purposes and they would have to comply with them. The permit for an operating license Is obtained from the State. In 1976 a CUP was obtained for 15 children and since then the owners were changed and the CUP lapsed. Staffhad.no objections 111 picking up and dropping off the children on Forest which Is a cul-de-sac. The public hearing was opened. Clayton Robinson, 805 N. First Ave., the pastor said ,that they are In agreement with BlI of the conditions In the staff report. He submitted several pictures of the existing buildings and condition of the site. He noted that the parking lot is 31,000 sq. ft. and he remarked that they will utilize half.of that for. the children's playground ,and explained, that reducing the size 01 the_ play area Will give the teachers more control in supervising them. .He anticipated utilizing temporary barriers in the an eastlWest direction across the parking lot and said that those barriers would be removed on Sundays to allow for the church parking and on special occasions to allow for such actlvitles such as jogging and track. The property backs up to the freeway and the noise from the children would be substantially less than the freeway and irwould not disturb the adjoining property owners. He commented that there aril14 parking spaces at the north end which would adequately accommodate the parking for church and school staff. There are only 3 properties to the east which are owned by private citizens and he thought that this would bean ideal location for a school. He explained the hours that the children would be in school and the recess hours and noted that the parents would drop off the children between 7:00 and 8:15 a.m., and they would be picked up from 4:30 until closing at 6:30pm and during those times they would be kept inside to reduce any possible noise. He said that at present the building is used 2 evenings a week for religious classes. Arcadia City Planning Commission 5/23/89 Page 3 ~ r . . "t In response to a question from the Commission, Mr. Robinson said thanhey were not going 10 use gates. Hazel Silcott, 711 N. First. said that she was also speaking on behalf of her neighbor Mr. Anderson who is 85 years old and can not attend and said that they are both against the proposed use and said that First Avenue is a very busy street and slated that the American Legion usually has events 3-4 evenings a week and parking Is a problem and If the church holds classes a couple of nights during the week that would increase the noise. She said that on many occasions she has found baseballs, footbails and rocks In her yard from the play ground and was concemed with any possible noise. She was not against preschool children but felt that the older children would be harder to control. Marion Tomich, 45 E. Forest. said that Arcadia has the one of the best school distrlcls and could not see any reason for another private school. He was concemed about parking, noise and any possible signs that would be posted on Forest at a later date to prevent residents from parking b6C8use of the school using Forest to drop-off and pick-up the children. In rebuttal, Mr. Robinson said that he didn't anticipate any problems with the children and said that the previous problems that Mrs. Silcott encountered were probably from the neighbortlood children and reiterated that during the recess hours there will be teachers supervising the children. There were no additional persons desiring to speak In favor or In opposition of the proposal; ~ It was moved by Commissioner Szany, seconded by Commissioner Amato to close the public hearing. The motion' passed by volca vote with none dissenting. , Commissioner Szany thought that even though this Is a residential zone this would be an Ideal location for a school since it is next to the freeway and it.only backs tip to a few residences. He suggested an 8' high wall to help from anything being thrown Into the neighbors' yards and that the children be dropped-off and picked-up from, the parking lot. Staff commented that it Is unclear who owns the wall and it seems that with the exception of one wall the rest were constructed by the church and noted that In some places the grade Is different. Chairman Papay was concemed with the temporary barriers and felt that if they were to change them to a north-south direction then that would reduce the noise level and the children would be kept awayJromthe homes.. Commissioner Hedlund commented that this is similar to another-case that came before the Commission and said that In that Instance the church was required to keep the children away from the homes abutting the church. He thought that the play ground should be kept at least 100' away from the homes on First and stated that bringing it any closer would be infringing on the neighbors' privacy. He thought that the area behind the residents should be used for parking. CommiSSioner Clark sald that If the play area was near the residents It would adversly Impact them and fell that the play ground should be 50' from the properties facing First. He felt that there should be a permanent gate and was against temporary barriers. Mr. Woolard suggested that the parking lot be used as an area to pick-up and droP-off the children. Arcadia City Planning Commission 5/23/89 Page 4 --4 '. I . . :, Chalnnan Papay said that the gate across the driveway would control bothvehlcular and pedestrian traffic. The consensus of the Commission was that: A An 8 foot high barrier be provided and maintained behind the residences along First Avenue. B. Any play areas be 50 feet away from the residences along First Avenue, with the exception of the church owned property. C. An 8 foot high gate, which can be locked. be prnvided and utilized between the freeway fencing and the southwest comer of the masonry wall behind the residence at 701 N. First Avenue. D. All drop-offs and pick-ups of children be conducted on-site at the northerly portion of the parking lots, and none are to occur along the public righ~f-way. MO'T1ON It was moved by Commissioner Clark, seconded by Commissioner Amato to recommend approval of CUP 89-006 subject to the conditions in the staff report and the addition of the above conditions. ROll CALl.: AVES: CommlsslQners Amato, Clark, Hedlund. Szany. Papay flaB: None Chalnnan Papay noted that there is .a five working day appeal period after the adoption of the resolution. AUDIENCE PARTIC1PAllON Diego Sanchez, 1816 S..San Gabriel Blvd., San Gabriel. spoke about the request to remove the trees at 2329 S. Santa Anlla. He justmed the reason for the request and commented that the lreesdo notgocarchlteclurally'well with-the deslgn'of the new homes. they are unhealthy trees and have rats and It would be very costly to prune the trees and clear them of rats. Pl.ANNING~CONSlDERATlON TPM 89-008 2329 S. Sants Anita Rosemead Constructfon. A request to remove all trees from the lot. The stsff report was presented. Commissioner Szaoy said that he didn't mind the removal of the palm trees but they should be replaced wlth a 36" box tree and not 15 gallon tree. They should try to have as IltIIe impact on tlie neighbors as possible. Arcadia City Planning Commission 5/23/89 Page 5 " I ~1 .', '\ . . Commlsslone! ,Clark thought that lt would be acceptable to him to remove the palm trees. Chalnnan Papay felt that they should ,keep the pine tree and he agreed with Commissioner Szany In replacing them with 36" box trees and Commissioner Amato agreed. Commissioner Hedlund felt that they should detennlne the reason for the removal of the trees Is that they are unhealthy trees. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner Hedlund, seconded by Commissioner Clar\( to approve the request to remove the two palm trees and that they should be replaced with two 36" box trees. ROLL CAI.L; AVES: Commissioners Amato, Clar\(. Hedlund, Szany, Papay rem None ... .. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .. ... ... ... ... .. .. ... -.,... ... ... ....... .. .. .. .. ... ... ... ... .. ... ... .. RESOLUTION 1408 A resolution granting CUP 89-004 to expand an eating establishment at 27-29 W. Las Tunas Drive. A resolution granting CUP 89'005 to allow a resident manager's apartment within a self-storege facility and to construct a building In excess of 20,000 sq. ft. in area within 100 feet of residentially zoned property at 10-16 W. Uve Oak Avenue. RESOLUTION 1409 Mr. Woolard read the title of the resolution. MOTION It was moved by Commissioner SZ81lY, s8COIlded by Commissioner Clark to adopt Resolutions 1408 and 1409 to formally affirm the decision of May 9, 1989, reflecting the findings of the Commission and the votes thereon. ROLL~ AYEa, NESt- Commissioners Amato, Clar\(, Hedlund, Szany, Papay None Chainnan Papay noted that there Is a five working day appeal period. ... ... .. ... ... ... .. .. .. ... .. ... ... ... ... ... ...'- ... ... ... ... ... -'- ..... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .. ... MATTERS FROM COUNCIL None ... ... .. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .. ... ... ... ... ... .. ... ... ... ... ... ... .. .. ... .. .. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Arcadia City Planning Commission . 5/23/89 Page 6 ~ -----=--=..... A r1 . . "'I MAIII:I1l:i FROM COMMISSION None .. .. ","... ... ... .. ... ... ... '": ... ... .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .... ... .. ... .. .. .. ... ... .. .. .. ... MAl I I:I1l:i FROM STAFF None ADJOURNMENT 8:45 p.m. /.,f} 1'''''''>-11} ,~ :,fJ!.f.&,,-*,,-) 1.1 JOI. @.I,/JI. _ Secretary, Arcadia Planning Commission Arcadia City Planning Commission 5/23/89 Page 7