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Arcadia City Planning Commission
Wednesday, November 12, 1997
7:15 p.m. in the Council Chamhers
Planning Commission proceedings are tape-recorded and on file in the office of the Community
Development.Division.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
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The Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia met in regular session on Wednesday, November 12,
1997 at 7:15 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the City of Arcadia, at 240 W.Huntington Drive with
Chairman Pro Tem KaJemkiarian presiding.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT:.
ABSENT:
Commissioners Bruckner, Huang, Sleeter, Kalemkiarian
Commissioners Bell and Murphy
MOTION
It WlI$ moved by Commissioner Sleeter, seconded by Commissioner Huang to excuse
Commissioners Bell and Murphy from tonight's meeting. The motion passed by voice vote with
none dissenting.
SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FROM STAFF REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS
None
TIME RESERVED FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE
PLANNING COMMISSION ON NON-PUBLIC BEARING MATTERS (5 MINUTE LIMIT PER
PERSON)
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MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Sleeter, seconded by Commissioner Bruckner to read all
resolutions by title only and waive reading the full body of the resolution. The motion passed by
voice vote with none dissenting.
OTHERS AlTENDING:
Mayor Robert Harbicht
Community. Development Administrator Donna Butler
Associate Planner James Kasama
Secretary Silva Vergel
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1. MINUTES of 10/28/97
MOTION
It was .moved by Commissioner Sleeter, seconded by Commissioner Bruckner to approve the
Minutes of October 2S1h .
ROLL CALL:
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ABSENT:
Commissioners Bell, Bruckner, Huang,Kalemkiarian Murphy
None
Commissioners Bell and Murphy
Commissioner ~n arrived at 7:20 p.rn.
2. CONTINUED PUBLIC BEARING CUP 94-006
16 E. Huntington Dr.
Club 101 Sports Bar & Grille
Consideration of revocation of the conditional use permit due to violations.
The stilff report was presented.
Staff indicated that no follo,w up inspections have been done.
The public hearing was opened.
VemonJolley, 17390'Mockingbird Canyon Rd., Riverside, the attorney for Mses. Zdara and Ferguson
was present. He indicated that his clients have been in. compliance with the CUP since the inception.
Inspections are usually conducted a couple of times a year and wheIiever a violation was discovered,
they were quick to correct it. They have always run their establishment to be in full compliance with the
CUP. The recent redevelopment in the area hurt many of the businesses there , and the applicants were
forced to invest their own money. He remarked that the complaints thatthe city received are as a result
of a civil dispute and. pointed out that his clients have always and promptly corrected any violations that
were discovered. He hoped there should be an equitable resolution to this problem and asked that the
Planning Commission not revoke their license. This is hard times and it is difficult for the applicants to
operate a full menu.
He asked that the Planning Conimission amend the hours of operation Monday through Friday to be
open from 4:00 p.m. to 1:30 a.m. and on Saturdays and Sundays keep the existing hours. His clients
have invested a lotoftime, effort and energy into their business and to revoke their license would be too
harsh of a penalty. According to staff; most cities do not address the amount of food sales in their
definition of a restaurant. It would be an injustice to single out the only city that has a definition
(Anaheim) and to amend the code based on one city. The defmition is left up to interpretation. The City
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has Confirmed by way of their inspections for the past 3 years that his clients have been in compliance
with the CUP and to. revoke the CUP now would be contradictory.
Bill Connolly, 815 E. Camino Real, asked, that the Planning Commission not revoke the CUP. With all
the budget problems that the City is having, he was upset that this business is under fire. He indicated
that the previous restaUrant, stopped serving food at 10:00 p.rn. and a lot more questionable activity was
taking place during their operation of the restaurant. He noted that Ms, Butler cited Moon Palace as the
previous restaurant but failed to mention that The Love Boat was in operation before Club 101 and that
there were many problems with that restaurant.
He could not understand why the city would try to run a good business out of the area, especially after
pouring so much money into the downtown. In his conversations with the, Police, they indicated that
this business is one of the better ones in the City with minimum problems aSsociated with them.
Chairman Pro Tem Kalemkiarian declared the. public hearing closed, since no one else wished to speak
in favor of or in opposition to this item.
Commissioner Bell was not against the amendment of hours. She suggested using the informationfrom
other cities. like Anaheim's to come up with a defmition.
Commissioner Sleeter also did not have objections tq revising the hours. He did not think that a text
amendment defining a restaurant is lIIl appropriate discussion at this time. Would that be applied
retroactively or would existing restaurants be grandfathered? He recommended that they sustain the
CUP but amend the hours of operation.
Chairman Pro Tem Kalemkiarian agreed and felt the applicants should be given the opportunity to
remedy the situation.
Mr. Miller said that staff would bring back a resolution for adoption at their next meeting.
Ms. Butler said' that a public hearing would not be necessary because. they are not extending the hours.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Sleeter,. seconded by Commissioner Bruckner to amend the CUP
and the hours of operation to be from 4:30 p.m. to 2:00 am. on weekdays, and 10:00 am. to 2:00
a.m., on weekends and holidays, and it is required that the kitchen be fully operational with a full
menu available from 5:30 p.m. to 1:00 am. on weekdays, and 11:30 a.m. to 1:00 a.m. on
weekends and holidays. These hours of operation are subject to reevaluation by the Planning
Commission.
ROLL CALL:
AYES:
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ABSENT:
Commissioners Bell, Bruckner, Huang, Sleeier, Kalemkiarian
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3. PUBLIC BEARING CUP 97-012
NW comer of Santa Clara an N. Fifth Ave.
Integrated Circuit Development Corp.
Consideration of a conditional use permit for an 18,000 sq. ft. research and development office
and warehouse building in the CPD-l zone:
The staff report was presented and the public hearing was opened.
Robert RiCciardi, 75-090 St Charles PI., Palm Desert, the architect of the project was present Hesaid
the property owner will occupy the building and this location wilrbe the headqu.arters for his company.
Their office hours will be from 8;00 am. to 4:30 p,m. There will be no night shifts although on
occasion they might work on a Saturday. All storage of merchandise will be inside the building. There
is plenty oflandscaping and he described the materials that will be. used. There will be approximately
27 employees. He. explained the location of the loading dock and how trucks would access it Most
deliveries will be by UPS and noted that they comply with all of ADA requirements.
In reply to a question by the Commission, Mr. Ricciardi said that the Development Services Department
has had no objections with the two curb cuts and their proximity to each other.
Chairman Pro TemKalemkiarian declared the public hearing closed, since no one else wished to speak
in favor of or in opposition to this item. .
Commissioner Bruckner was pleast;:d t() see that this business would bring more people into the
downtown. area. He thought it was great that the building would be oWner occupied and that it would be
the company's headquarters. The owner has made a sizeable investment and felt this would give the
area the vitality that it needs,
Commissioner Sleeter agreed and was happy to see an area that has been in blight improved.
MOTION
It was moved'by Commissioner Bruckner, seconded by Commissioner Bell to approve CUP 97-
012 subject to the'conditions in the staff report.
ROLL CALL:
AYES:
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ABSENT:
Commissioners Bell, Bruckner, Huang, Sleeter, Kalemkiarian
None
Commissioner Murphy
Chairman Pro Tem Kalemkiarian noted that there is a five working day appeal period after the adoption
of the resolution. The resolution will be adopted tonight. Appeals are to be filed by Wednesday,
November 19, 1997.
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4. PUBLIC HEARING TPM 97-009
20-26 La Porte St. & 15-21 Flower St.
Carl Reinhardt
Consideration of a tentative parcel map for lot line adjustments and Certificates of Compliance to
reconfigure and consolidate three industrial properties.
The staff report was presented.
In reply to a question by the Commission, staff said that this would not affect on existing business or
result in any setback violations.
The public hearing was opened.
Ed Eckert, Gilbert Engineering, 3820 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, said that he is the engineer of the
project. He contacted the owner who resides in Oregon and went over the conditions with him and he
was in agreement. With the exception of the removal of one structure that is not in compliance, the
owner does not intend to change the existing businesses or buildings.
Chairman Pro Tem Kalemkiarian declared the public hearing closed, since no one else wished to speak
in favor of or in opposition to this item.
MOTION
It was moved by Commissioner Sleeter, seconded by Commissioner Bruckner to approve TPM
97-009 subject to the conditions.in the staff report.
ROLL CALL:
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Commissioners Bell, Bruckner, Huang, Sleeter, Kalemkiarian
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Com.missionerMurphy
Chairman Pro Tem Kalemkiariannoted that there is a ten-day appeal period. Appeals are to be filed by
Thursday, November.21, 1997.
NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
MATI'ERS FROM OTY COUNCIL
Because Mayor Hatbicht had to leave, this item was moved on the agenda.
Mayor Hatbicht discussed the recent developments in the City including the two hotel sites at the
northwest comer of Huntington Dr. and Second 'Ave. The City would benefit from the bed tax
generated by these two new hotels.
He discussed the article in the newspaper regarding the letter from management employees.
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He traveled to Washington D.C. to lobby for grant funds for the upgrade of the City's reservoirs. He
briefly explained the program and said there were representatives from 5 cities in Southern California
who were trying to take advantage from this program. They will know in spring jfthey were successful
in their attempt.
He invited the Planning Commission to attend the City Council's December 2nd meeting at which time
the City Council will formally thank the Planning Commission for all their time and effort. In the past;
there was a dinner that was held annually to recognize the various commissions of the City, but due to
budget problems this event was eliminated.
In answer to Commissioner Bruckner's comments, the Mayor said that he received a call from Chairman
Murphy who expressed concems over the elimination ofa Code Services Officer position and he
explained to him that although this is an important position, it is not as important as Police or Fire.
Hopefully, in a couple of years they will be able to reinstate this position, once the City's budget is in a
better shape. He remarked that none of the cuts that were made were easy and agreed that Code
Services Officer is an important position.
5. RESOLUTION NO. 1554
A resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia, California, recommending to
the City Council approval of CUP 97-010 to permit a 1,250 sq. ft. coffee shop at 300 E.
Huntington Dr. and that City Council ResOlution No. 5509 be repealed.
AASOLUTIONNO. 1~5S
A resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia, California, approving CUP 97-
011 to permit a 1,900 sq. ft. delicatessen with indoor and outdoor seating at 206 S. Erst Ave.
RESOLUTION NO. 1556
A resolution of the Planning' Corn mission of the City of Arcadia, California, approving CUP 97-
012 to permit an 18,000 sq. ft. research and development building at the northwest corner of
Santa Clara St. and Fifth Ave.
Ms. Butletread the titles of the resolutions.
MOTION
It was moved by Conurtissionet Sleeter, seconded 'by Commissioner Huang to adopt Resolutions
1554, 1555 and 1556 and to formally affirm the decisions of October 28th and November 12th and
the votes thereon.
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Chairman Pro Tern Kalemkiarian noted that there is afive working day appeal period. Appeals are to be
filed by Wednesday, November 19, 1997.
The meeting was moved to the Conference Room of the Council Chambers.
6. TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION:
A. Signs, banners outdoor displays
The staff'report was presented.
Ms. Butler indicated that staff is in favor of allowing more. flexibility in the signage regulations.
Portable Signs
The Planning Commission felt that as long as the signs were professionally done A-frames are
acceptable.
The ABA was in favor of keeping the A-frame style advertising boards.
Commissioner Sleeter wondered who is targeted when ail A-frame sign is used beca:use a2'x3' A-frame
is too small to catch vehicular traffic attention. He asked if staff could review the signs and if there
would be a fee for the review?
Ms. Butler replied that all signs go through ADR, there is a deposit of $45 and she explained the
process. The same could be applied to these and the fee could be reduced.
Garland Roberson, Sullivan Paints, 134E. Huntington Dr., President of the ABA suggested streamlining
the, process to make it easier.
Ms..Butler said that the sign could be drawn or a color photo of the sign could be taken for review.
Alan Yack, Ralph's Florist, 109 S. First Ave., asked if one sign person eQuId be designated by the City
so he would be knowledgeable of the codes, requirements and procedures?
Commissioner Bruckner explained that although the ABA and merchants could designate one or two
sign companies'to prepare these signs as approved contractors, the City would be unable to single out
one contractor..
Chairman Pro rem kalemkiarian was in favor of being more flexible regarding portable signs. He
thought that A-frame.signs shouJdbe permitted and there should be staff review with an appropriate fee.
Commissioner Sleeter felt that 4' is acceptable.
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Ms. Butler explained the regulations for windows signs. She indicated that there are several businesses
that exceed the window sign requirements and was concerned with signs that are affixed to the window
on a permanent basis.
Mr. Roberson remarked that he noted that both the VCR repair shop and the bike shops on Huntington
Dr. were contacted about their window sign violation. The owner of the bike shop noticed a decline in
business after removing the signs.
Ms. Butler said that he did not have to remove all his signs. Code allows 25% window coverage. At the
present time, a business can exceed the 25% requirement for a maximum of 30 cumulative days per year
with a permit Staff recommends that be increased to 60 days. Lighted signs are permitted not to
exceed a 10% windowcovei"age.
The Planning. Commission was in favor of increasing that to 60 days.
Banners
Chairman Pro Tem Kalemkiarian was concemed with banners that are hung below awnings and stated
that he has been hiton the head because they hang very low.
Commissioner Sleeter did not think that banners are attractive when they hang below 7'. He felt that
there. should be a height limitation.
Ms. Butler said a 7' dearance is required for anything over the public right-of-way.
Mr. Roberson remarked that the 7' requirement would not be possible with some of the existing
awmngs.
Ms. Butler explained the bannenequirementsc She indicated that there'is .no fee for this permit Staff
recommends that the time requirement be changed from 30 to 60 ~mulativedays.
Commissioner Sleeter asked if they should require that 30 of the 60 days must be continuous?
Ms. Butler explained that some businesses choose to put up their banners on weekends only and it would
be difficult to 'monitor.
Discussion ensued regarding decorative flags.
Ms. Butler said that as long as flags do not contain commercial messages'there would be no problems of
having up to two flags.
ThePianning Commission concurred with the idea of allowing a maximum of two decorative flags.
Outdoor Displays
Ms. Butler remarked that defining what.is appropriate is subjective. She remarked that in San Dimas
businesses display antique items.
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Mr. Roberson said the ABA would like to have outdoor displays but felt what is permitted should be
clearly defined.
Chairman Pro Tem Kalemkiarian recommended that sale racks should be prohibited. Items that are
displayed should be creative and interesting.
Ms. Butler said that is difficult to define. Staff would not want to see hair spray; electronic merchandise
or items like that to be displayed outsIde.
Mr. Roberson said that Barbara's Beauty Salon has an interesting and creative outdoor display. IUs an
antique barber chair with a white dress and a hat. He felt that 100+ years for antique stores is too
restrictive.
Mr. Miller said the intent is to legalize the use of outdoor displays and to liberalize the regulations. If
problems arise, the code could be amended. Sometimes.it is hard to define and visualize what would be
appropriate until it is seen.
It was recommended that the ABA help monitor and police outdoor displays, Le. if someone displays
something that is out of character, the ABA would approach the business and discuss the matter.
Ms. Butler said that what is approved would apply to the rest of the City. The ABA could help with.the
implementation of outdoor displays and help with making sure that businesses have tasteful displays.
The purpose of outdoor displays should be to get attention. She indicated that in regard to 100+ years
the code actually says 75% of merchandise must be 100+ years old and staff does not formally visit
antique stores to ensure compliance, but just wants to make sure these businesses are not turned into
thrift. stores.
Commissioner Huang.did not want to require a CUP for display of outdoor merchandise.
Commissioner Bruckner was concerned that a business could display something that IS less than
desirable and that could ruin it for the other businesses.
Jerry MaScott, said that displays should be. interesting and that.means changing them occasionally. The
original intent of the 100+ years'was to stop the sale of used furniture.
Commissioner Sleeter said different associations set time limits deteIinining when certain items are
considered to be antiques. For example, in California automobiles are considered to be antiques after 30
years. Different types of collectibles have different thresholds. He felt a more flexible language. should
be used to deal with the variances.
Bill Connolly, 815 E. Camino Real felt there should be no outside pricing.
Ms. Butler said outdoor displays should be merchandise that is not typically for sale. There is a separate
permit for "sidewalk sale" which allows someone to sell merchandise.
It was agreed that "outdoor displays" should be allowed, but should not include the sale of merchandise.
Slides were shown of the various businesses and signs in the downtown area.
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Promotional Devices
Ms. Butler discussed this item and said that>the CBD and other commercial zones do not allow for any
sort of "promotional devices" to be displayed such as balloons, pennants, flags or other similar attention
getting devices. The CBD guidelines establish standards for promotional devices that are listed in the
staff report and she felt these guidelines should be followed whenever promotional devices are used and
be incorporated into,the zoning regulations, if they are determined to be appropriate.
Commissioner Bell liked San Marino's approach and said it is in.good taste.
Commissioner Bruckner feltthat flags and temporary banners are. acceptable but pennants are not.
The ABA was in favor'ofballoons.
Chairman Pro Tem Kalemkiarian agreed and Commissioner Sleeter said they should put in the code
what is not acceptable.
Commissioner Bruckner-suggested that staff. forward the Planning Commission's. recommendation to the
ABA and to the Planning Commission prior to forwarding it to the City Council.
MATTERS FROM PLANNING COMMISSON
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MODIFICA nON COMMITTEE MEETING ACTIONS
Since there were no applications filed, there was .no Modification Committee meeting.
MATTERS FROM STAFF
1. CITY COUNCIL ACTONS
2. UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS
3. The Planning Commission's December 23rd meeting.
Ms. Butler discussed'upcoming projects.
The Planning'Commission was in favor of not having the second meeting in December.
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