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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJANUARY 27, 1959 . ROLL CALL MINUTES HEARING Car Wash MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARCADIA REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 27, 1959 The Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia met in regular session in the Council Chamber of the City Hall at 8:00 o'clock P.M., January 27, 1959, with Chairman Acker 'presiding. PRESENT: Commissioners Acker, Davison, Forman, Michler, Robertson, Stou~ and Vachon., I - - ABSENT: None OTHERS PRESENT: Councilman Reibold, Lortz, Nicklin, Cook, Talley and Mrs. Andrews. The minutes of the regular meeting held January 13, 1959, were approved as written and mailed. Pursuant to action taken January 13, 1959, a continued public hearing was held on the application for a mechanical car wash at 1414 S'. Baldwin Avenue. The Secretary presented the plot plan and the report requested last mee't- ing, showing that representatives of the car wash and the staff met on January 26, 1959 to discuss problems in connection with this wash rack, and also submitted the revised plot plan. A review was made of the pro- posed installation and 'it is indicated that there is storage for approxi- mately four vehicles on the property after they come off the wash rack. It is, felt that this would be adequate for normal operations provided that no one leaves the premises to shop, planning to pick up the car at a later time. This could cause congestion, within the lot" particularly on Saturday or other large volume days. It is felt that this installation could not give any great hazard or traffic problems in respect to Baldwin Avenue, inasmuch as the property would be served by two driveways, one for entering with storage capacity, the other for leaving the property after the completion of the washing operation. Furthermore. at such time as Baldwin Avenue is widened and the alley behind the property is improved, congestion will be further reduced. There was nothing submitted on the .noise level, but Mr. Thompson, repre- senting Chern Therm had some check readings made Which he presented. The Engineer from the General Electric Company with a decibel meter reviewed the property and checked the decibel reading along the street. They also went to East Pasadena car wash to check. To the east fence line near the property of the person who would be mos,t conce,rned, the report \~as that the auto laundry 120 feet away makes a difference' of 3 decibels against the allowable of 65 over the regular street noises. The passing of a truck at 120 feet makes between 10 and 15 decibels over ambient street noises. An automobile makes between, 3 to 5 decibels over the ambient level. The general noise in the area with no cars going by, just distance noise, makes a difference of 3 to 5 decibels with just one car passing. When the vacuum and cleaner are operating there is no appreciable increase in noise factor at street level from 120 feet. From the above, the auto laundry equipment when running is quieter than an average automobile ,travel~ng the streets. Discussion followed as to the decibel reading a.t the location of the blowers with special insulation. They have agreed to erect a six (6) foot concrete block wall so that wOllld further quiet any noise 'that might OCCllr. It was stated that trucks, Page One January 27, 1959 motorcycles, etc. would increase the decibels, even as much as 15 decibels over the ambient noise level, which at street level is about 70-75 decibels. A further discussion was held relative to the number of cars that could be on the premises. Only on an exceedingly large day would the lot be full. There is room For four cars after completion of the washing cycle. There will be none parked in the stre,et, and signs would be posted advis- ing customers not to leave the premises, but to pick up cars innnediately upon being finfshed. Mr. Davison made a suggestion that the gasoline pumps as located at the present time should probably be moved to the side so as to accomodate both 1 ines of cars, and not hold up the completed cars. Mr. Thompson stated that the location of the pumps could be located accord- ing to whatever plan is considered best; they would be moved if so desired. Gars desiring gasoline would be provided with a little sticker and would be directed to the pumps. It takes approximately 2 minutes for the car to be completed on the outside as only the windows remain to be cleaned. The length of time for this depends on the number of men working that day. The conveyor will travel from 12 feet per minute up to 45 feet per m:l,nute. The number of cars waiting to be washed would determine the speed of the mach- ines. If there were more cars at .the curb line than could be accomodated, the chain woul d be' stopped unt il there was room for the next car. The alley referred to is not improved and is not clear through at this time. Fred Howser stated. that if it is the decision of the CODDDission that the pumps be re-located, they would be willing to do it. Mr. Henry H. Hege, 660 W. Duarte Road, representing a property owner, asked several questions as to the noise element. Mr. Knut Larson, 1424 S. Baldwin Avenue, representing the church south of the property involved, stated he had visited various car washes ,and he was still concerned about the church. There were meetings held at, the church in addiCtion to the Sunday meetings, and in the summertime when all of the windows in the building were opened the noise would penetrate. He also re-stated that when the building located on the Gity-owned property is removed, that would permit noise to be greater. He questioned the decibel readings and felt more study should be made relative to this matter. The Chairman stated the zone variance had not been granted, but if it is, certain conditions must be met. Mr. r.arsoh stated that various people from the church were concerned and some desired to speak. Pastor Ryan stated that he was deeply concerned about the installation for the reason that there are many meetings going on in the church, from one hour to three hours, weekdays as well as Sundays and evenings. His own personal exper- ience had been that you would have to be quIte a distance from the blow- ers before the noise was not annoying. He has visited car washes in the Crenshaw district and in Pasadena. This would be only 70 feet from the church and he felt that the walls would have to be quite high to not have the sound penetrate and he was very much ol'Posed to the granting of the variance. They had been in the area for over twenty years, and felt that this would definitely depreciate the value of the property. He felt that it was not reasonable to assume that it would be as quiet as had been presented. Mr. Forman stated that his main concern originally was the flow of traffic and the number of cars that could be housed on the lot, after they had come off the wash rack. There seems to be a great deal of discussion about the noise factors, etc. He felt that perhaps further study should be made by the Connnission on the noise element. Page Two January 27, 1959 Mr. Stout felt that it would be a good thing to have a car wash in Arcadia but felt that this was not the place for it. Mr. Robertson stated that he understood that there were experts in sound mechanics in the church who had made a study of this problem and 'he would be interested in hearing from the~. Mr. Fred Farrance, Mechanical Engineer, of the United Concrete Pipe Co. stated he had not made a reading of the area, but could take some. The readings oresented were taken during a'week day, Tuesday afternoon; this was compared with the additional noise that would come from the blowers or the general noise of the cat wash. They were mostly concerned with Sunday. There is very little traffic between the hours of 9,:,00 and 12:00, al1d it is quiet; if there is a car, it is only momentarily. The car wash blowers' equId be constant, even though at a lower level. No way of com" paring the ambient level on, Sundays with a weekday, as it would obviously be more quiet. It might be some advantage to take decibel readings on the noise level that you would find on Sunday and see how much increase that you would get from the blower noise. Mr. Robertson stated that certain factors would have to be recognized in the development of an area. If the use is permissible for an auto laundry il1 the past, then the transition from a hand l'aundry into a mechanized is not too great a step. The Commission has been concerned with those who opposed the development. No protests have been received from any of the business men in the area. He felt that when an applicant filed a report that is authorized and slgned by a recognized firm qualified to take readings such as this it should have sufficient weight, without going into how the readings were taken, or how to evaluate the material. The main protest has been from the church. This church has been there for many years, and whether or not they still remain at this location; in view of the commercial develop- ment, is' not determined. 'If the church were to re-locate it would remove 90% of the, objections'. If there were proper means taken for the proper control of traffic in the area. ~Ir. Vachon had been concerned about traffic. He felt that there wasn't too much differential between a hand operated car wash and the mechanized wash. If the one is allowed under the present zoning there is a debatable point whether a mechanized car wash is that much different than a hand wash. The question of the zone had been raised. The church is in a com- mercial zone where normally it would be in an R-2 zone. The church, as such, is out of zone. The area is growing as a commercial area. He had been to many car washes where similar equipment had been installed. Most of the car washes have been in a commercial zone and traffic was a concern, but this could be handled. ~Ir. Larson stated that the church wa.s in' the proper zone long before the present zone was instituted, and he objected to ~he opening of the alley as being a hazard to the children playing at the church. Mr. Robertson stated the traffic concern was not in relation to the alley but to Baldwin Avenue. The church is located 100 feet from the location of the blowers. Mr. Davison stated that he had made many visits to the car washes and he had made it a point to check where they were located. Most of them are il1 a C zoning. He questioned that the car wash could be considered a manufacturing, use, or operation, as it only tended to speed the operation of the car wash. He felt that clarification should be made that there is a 60 foot lot between the two lots in question and the blowers set some 40 ,feet back of this. This would make the 100 foot dis,tance from the Page Three January 27, 1959 church and the necessity of quiet surroundings is not questioned. There are' othe,r 'concerns and businesses that could go in this area that could well be as noisy during the week as th.is' operation. lie would like to see in the development, if approved, a re-location of the pumps. He felt with his knowledge of th~s type of. service, they could be better located. ~~. Michler had looked, at the property at least ten times, and he f~lt it was agreed that it was an eye-sore in its present condition. He too felt that there were other uses that could go in the area that would create as much noise and be as much of a disturbing factor as the mech- anized car wash. lie too felt that with no protest from the business men in the area that if they were very particular about the car wash they would have been in to oppose it. Mr. Acker stated that there was thought of a CM in a C-2 zone. C-2 allows the use of a hand wash, CM is a mechanical wash. He felt the lots were extremely small, the flow of in-going and out-going cars. is still a problem whether it ,,,Ul work or not ",ark. Whether it is wise planning to push a CM type of business in an extremely small lot, it is still a C-2 zone and it would be allo",inga CM use under .a variance under this appli- cation. Mr. Robettson s'tated that in making a reconnnendation to the Council it ",as aH"ays possible to set out certain restrictions under which an approval ceuld be made. Mr. Thempsen stated they would be will ing that such be the case that ,if the noise ",ere to exceed certain decibel readings that they' ",auld remedy it. That it could be specified that the noise would not exceed the normal traffic decibel readings from the flow of cars going down Baldwin Avenue. The readings could be taken any day and that the readings would not exceed .68 decibels at the blowers. Mr. Jacobsen, also a member of the Lutheran Church, stated that in visit- ing a car ~ash he felt that the noise was a higher level than in the usual area. It was the high pitched hum that creates the niusance. Mr. Hege also had visited the car wash. During the time the cars ",ere accelerating from Rosemead there was ne question as to when the blowers went on. This made considerable more noise than the cars starting out from the signals. Mr. John Neilson, an accountant, and a member of the Church' discussed the economic value of the develepment of the area. He owns a lot near the area and is interested in selling it. The hub development could spread and he fel t that this would force it to go another direction. There being no further speakers" the Chairman declared the hearing closed. Matian by ~u. Michler, seconded by Mr. Vachon that the application of Fred Kovanen for a mechanical wash at 1414 S. Baldwin Avenue be reconnnended for approval subject to the cond'itions as set forth in the report of the Zoning Conuni't tee as amended as follows: 1. Construct a 5 foot high masonry ",all along the south line of the lot and along the west line .of the dedicated alley at the rear, except that the wall may be 4 feet high for a distance of 15 feet east of Baldwin Avenue. 2. All compressors, boilers and exhaust fans shall be con- structed and maintained in a closp.d section of the structure and shall be adequately sound-proofed, to the satisfaction Page Four January 27, 1959 LOT SPLIT No. 231 Jewish Cen ter LOT SPLIT No. 232 Vinita Huward o'f Planni.ng Commission. 3. Final plans for the building, including the plot plan shall be submitted to the Planning Commission for approval before issuance of a building permit. 4. Gasoline pumps to be moved to the center area between the two inbound lines of traffic. And that the City Attorney be instructed to prepare a Resolution to be submitted at the next Planning ,Commission meeting. Said motion was carried on the following roll call: AYES: Commissioners Dav:!.son,Forman Michler, Robertson and Vachon. NOES: Commissioners Acker and Stout Lot Split 'No. 231.-Foothill Jewish Community Center, Sycamore Avenue was reviewed by Mr. Robertson and Mr. Davison. The Engineer's report was read by the Secretary. The requested division would create three new lots, each being 95.55 feet by 170 feet, well above minimum, and conforming with the plan cons.idered at the time the variance for the church building was granted. Moved by Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Davison, and carried that Lot Spl.it No. 231, Foothill Jewish Community Center, Sycamore Avenue, recom- mended approved subject to the following conditions: 1. File a final map with the City Engineer., 2. Provide sewer laterals for parcels 2 and 3. 3. Provide new water connect-ions, without meters, for parcels 1, 2, 3 and 4. 4. Pay $75.00 recreation fee. 5. Dedicate 5 feet for widening Sycamore Avenue, including a 20 foot radius at Second Avenue and Sycamore Avenue and at Second Avenue and Foothill Boulevard. 6. Construct concrete curb and gutter along Second Avenue and along Sycamore Avenue. Lot Split No.. 232. - Vinita E. Howard, 379 W. Lemon Avenue was reported on by Mr. Michl er and Mr. Stout. The Engineer's report was read by the Secretary. Mr. Huward Brauffman, 1745 Holly Avenue, Attorney, stated that the property was 384 feet deep running from Lemon Avenue north on the east side of Holly Avenue. At the north end of the lot on the opposite side of Holly Avenue, Sharon Road has been projected wes.t. Some time this road will be continued to El Monte Aven~e. He had been authorized by the Howards to dedicate to the City of Arcadia the north 30 feet of their lot for the projection of the street. The lots would be 100 feet on Holly Avenue. In R-O zone the lots would be required to be 10,000 square feet. The homes on the new lots would face on Holly AVenue. The plans could be submitted so that a suitable frontage or side yard could be determined for the new street. The ,deed restrictions on this lot expired several years ago. Page Five January 27, 1959 TRACT NO. 21618 PLOT PLAN TRACT 21215 MUTUAL SAVINGS APARTMENT FA IRVIEW AVENUE Considerable discussion followed. The matter of the restrictions on the entire area were discussed, as well as the probable layout for subdivi- sions after the termination of the restrictions. The matter of pole line easements for a lot split was considered. It was determined that more s'tudy should be given this area with the view that when the restrictions have expired, a subdivision could be developed. It was felt that inasmuch as other lot splits in this area Qad been denied, that a further investi- gation should be made of the deed res tricti ons. Moved by 'Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Michler, and carried that inasmuch as this may be the commencement of an entire new development that the lot split be continued, for a study of the entire area by the staff and Subdiv- ision ,Committee , and that any information that can be obtained relative to the deed restrictions and the termination dates, should be presented at the next Commission meeting. At the regular meeting of January 13, 1959, this matter was considered and the request wa~ made that the matter be referred to the Subdivision Com- mittee for reconsideration, and re-submitted to the Commissiov along with the minute record of the approval of the tentative map. Mr. Robertson stated that when the map was originally up for consideraticn one of the conditions was that the rear lot line of LO,t 12 be moved to line with the rear of Lot 13. At that time there was apparently no objec- tion, but it has come back for reconsideration now on the basis that there is not sufficient property to make this change on the rear lot line. An inspection and review had been made showing that the garage is within 3 feet or the rear lot line on the tentative map. There is no place on the lot to move the garage. Lot 12 presently is under area and it could be remedied by constructing a block wall flush with the garage and obtaining .f\.C.~ the difference between the three foot and the six or eight f~t masonry block which would then give sufficient area in Lot 12. All o'ther condi- tions had been met. If the wall is going to serve as a veneer wall of the garage the wall itself should be on the First Avenue lot and not on the new subdivision lot. Moved by Mr. Robertson, seconded by Mr. Forman and unanimously carried that Tentative Tract Map No. 21618 be recommended for approval, subject to moving the west lot line of Lot No. l2'west approximately 3 feet, and further subject to the conditions heretofore specified in the original approval. In consideration of Tract No. 21215, on Lot 9, there was an existing house that was to be left on the lot. The condition was that the garage wh-ich extended into Lot 8 should be re-located at an approved location. It was proposed to put it in front with a breezeway, or connection. The tenta- tive map shows the house to be ten feet from the rear lot line so that i.t would be a non-conforming rear yard. The subdivider has presented plans for the remodelling of that house. The conditions set out by the Commission have all been met, and in addition, the 'subdivider has added 21 by 34 feet, which would be a family room, bed- room and bath, making a three bedroom house, instead of two. It will then be comparable to the new houses that are being built on the other lots. Moved by Mr. Davison, seconded by Mr. Vachon, and carried that the plot plan of residence being remodeled on Lot, 9, of Tract No. 21215, (65 West Santa Anita Terrace) be approved. The Secretary presented revised plot plan of the rear yard for the proposed apartments of the Mutual Savings & Loan at 602 Fairview Avenue. This mat- ter was continued from the previous meeting of January 13, 1959, wherein the matter was referred to the s,taff for a further study. Page Six January 27, 1959 \ \ \ "."., .,,'......,. .." p""""""'" .h.. 'h." i. , P"'ihi,l" of complying with the ordinance relative to garages and parking and still be able to commence constrticpion of the apartments if recommended for approval by the Commission. The original plan called for a 40 unit apartment building. The one sketch cui: this to 36 unit, which takes less ground and less parking area. If Arcadia Avenue is developed, there would be 30 feet for the street, and.a 25'rear yard, facing Arcadia Avenue. This would' make it possible to enter from Arcadia Avenue', 'and have a driveway on each side of 'the apartment. Building the garages at the 'future yard line of Arcadia Avenue. At the present time the open parking required would be in the future yard of Arcadia Avenue. They could build the 36 units, garages' and have the open parking and still have some open land. If Arcadia Avenue goes through and is constructed it would use 30 feet of the lot. After that had been constructed and access to' the rear end of the lot was available from Arcadia Avenue the open parking would be moved back between the garages and the apar,tment building anif the access would be made from Arcadia Avenue. If Arcadia Avenue does not go through, and if the Zoning Ordin- ance is amended to require 'rear yards measuring from the rear lot line, a' possible plan was presented to use the 40 unit apartment on the origi- nal plan, the open parking would be at, the rear lot line, and the garages in front of this. Thus, providing about 16 feet minimum rear yard. Some consideration had been given by the Commission of 20 feet. Mr. Merrin, represented the Mutual Building and Engineering Company as engineer and Vice President. He re,ques,ted that' some action be taken so that some construction would be started regardless of whether Arcadia Avenue goes through or not. Mr. Nicklin stated that the line dra'>o for the purpose of the emergency ordinance was an arbitrary line through the middle of the property, prohi- biting the building on the rear half of any of the lots. Since the ordi- nance was passed study has been'made so that it is generally known where the street would go through, what rear yard should be required if it should go in, and what would be required if the street does not go in, all of those variables have been worked out. If, the Commission were to recommend to the Council the approval of the plan for the 36 units, the Council could then amend the ordinance to drop the prohibitive line back and still have the possibility of the street or alley whichever comes about, or if neither comes about, that would permit the applicant to go ahead with the plans which were in process of formation at the time the ordinance was adopted. Mr. Merrin stated there was a possibility they could revise the plan for a 20 foot rear yard as suggested, and if recommended for approval they could proceed. Moved by Mr. Stout, seconded by Mr. Vachon, that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that the emergency ordinance, in the light of the present studies and preliminary determination, be modified to a point 55 feet northerly of the southerly property line and recommend the approval of the plot plan showing the location of the 36 unit apartments with either alternative of apartments, depending upon whether the street goes through, or doesn't, and further recommending the approval of the 40 unit apartment predicated upon the absence of Arcadia Avenue provided that in any event the 20 foot rear yard be maintained from the rear lot line. Said motion was carried on the following toll call: AYES: Commissioners Acker, Davison, Forman, Michler, Robertson, Stout and Vachon. NOES: None Page Seven January 27, 1959 \ ,.~<d .n....~." ~<. ,<..~,,' .b."'.. ""' 'bo<' ,. . "",,,,t of complying with the ordinance relative to garages and parking and still be able to commence construc~ion of the apartments if recommended for approval by the Commission. The original plan called for a 40 unit apartment building. The one sketch cut this to 36 unit, whic~ takes less ground and less parking area. If Arcadia Avenue is developed, there would be 30 feet for the street, and a 25' rear yard, facing Arcadia Avenue. This would' make it possible to enter from Arcadia Avenue', and have a driveway on each side of the apartment. Building the garages at the 'future yard, line of Arcadia Avenue. At the present time the open parking required would be in the future yard of Arcadia Avenue. They could build the 36 units, garages' and have the open parking and still have some open land. If Arcadia Avenue goes through and is constructed it would use 30 feet of the lot. After that had been constructed and access to' the rear end of the lot was available from Arcadia Avenue the open parking would be moved back between the garages , , and the apartment building and the access would be made from Arcadia Avenue. If Arcadia Avenue does not go through, and if the Zoning Ordin- ance is amended to require rear yards measuring from the rear lot line, a possible plan was presented to use the 40 unit apartment on the origi- nal plan, the open parking would be at the rear lot line" and i:he garages in front of this. Thus, providing about 16 feet minimum rear yard. Some consideration had been given by the Commission of 20 feet. Mr. Merrin, represented the Mutual Building and Engineering Company as engineer and Vice President. He requested that some action be taken so that some construction would be' started regardless of whether Arcadia Avenue goes through or not. Mr. Nicklin stated that the line drawn for the purpose of the emergency ordinance was an arbitrary line through the middle of the property, prohi- biting the 'building on the rear half of any of the lots. Since the ordi- nance was passed study has been'made so that it is generally known where the street would go through, what rear yard should be required if it should go in, and what would be required if the street does not go in, all of those variables have been worked out. If the Commission were to reconnnend to the Council the approval of the p~an for the 36 units, the Council could then amend the ordinance to drop the prohibitive line.back and still, have the possibility of the street or alley whichever comes about, or if neither comes about, that would permit the applicant to go ahead with the plans which were in process of formation at the time the ordinance was adopted. ~~. Merrin stated there was a possibility they could revise the plan for a 20 foot rear yard as suggested, and if recommended for approval they could proceed. Moved by Mr. Stout, seconded by Mr. Vachon, that the Planning Commission reconnnend to the City Council that the emergency ordinance, in the light of the present studies and preliminary determination, be modified to a point 55 feet northerly of the southerly property line and recommend the approval of the plot plan showing the location of the 36 unit apartments with either alternative of apartments, depending upon whether the s,treet goes through, or doesn't; and further recommending the approval of the 40 unit apartment predicated upon the absence of Arcadia Avenue provided that in any event the 20 foot rear yard be maintained from the rear lot line. Said motion was carried on the following roll call: AYES: Commissioners Acker, Davison, forman, Michler, Robertson, Stout and Vachon. NOES: None Page Seven January 27, 1959 '. . t . APAR:rMENTS 425 Fairview PLANS CONVALESCENT HOME SUBDIVISION MONROVIA CITY DEED RESTRICTIONS A plot plan for an apartment building to be erecged at 4~5-429 Fairview Avenue was presented by the Secretary. Mr. Perry Neuschatz, representing the builders, Transwestern Building Co. of Los Angeles was present and discussed the matter of parking. He described in detail the type of apartment building. He had drawn the parking based on the dimensions of a standard Cadillac sedan. The parking was. at the left of the buildings for convenience of the tenants. He felt that convenience should super- sede the economy of the building. The question of cars using the driveway for egress and ingress at the same time was discussed. There were problems in this' connection, and the garages would have to be framed and the roof of the garages would have to be in steel and concrete for 3 hour fire separation. The Secreta:c-y stated that the spaces were wider then required, and there were more than required. It was the access that was not deemed adequate. Mr. Nicklin questioned whether or not a single lane driveway for 39 stalls is adequate access. It was suggested that probably the solution would be to retain the 8 foot stalls and increase the width of the driveway. More parking spaces, it was brought' out, would increase the availability of obtaining financing. Mr. Robertson felt that if two stalls were removed, and the balance reduced to the minimum, and increase the driveway width, the cars could get in satisfactorily. The matter was referred to the Planning Secretary and the Engineer to work out a feasible plan wher,ein the driveway could be increased so as to pro- vide adequate passing. According to the recommendation of the Planning Commission in approving the variance for the convalescent ,home to be erected at 450 W. Huntington Dr. the final plans were to be submitted for approval of the Planning Commis- sion. The final plans were practically identical with the tentative with the exception that the tentative showed some stone work around the build- ing. The final plan shows stucco and some wood siding. The planting plan was also presented. Discussion follows: Moved by Mr. Davison, seconded by Mr. Stout and cart"ied that the final plans of the convalescent home to be erected at 450 W. Huntington be approved, with the exception that the building was instructed to use the stone as shown in the original plan, and architect's sketch. The Secretary presented a tentative map of a subdivision to be built off Canyon Boulevard within the limits of Monrovia. It was presented for the purpose of acquainting the Commission of the improvement, and an ol1portun- ity to make a recommendation it so desired. Mr. Vachon suggested that the Secretary thank the Planning Commbsion of ~mnrovia for submitting the map, but inasmuch as there was nothing that required action on the part of the City of Arcadia, the map was ordered filed. Mr. Vachon suggested that funds be made available so that additional help could be ,employed to get an up to date list of all, deed restrictions and that a map be made up ,sht'wing the fU,ture streets lis outlined several years back by Everett Mansur. This should be either done by the Staff or a recommendation to Council for additional help to get, this on one map so that one can see the proposed planning for the rear yards and future streets. Chairman ACKer appointed a committee of Mr. Vachon and Mr. Stout to make a detailed study of what the needs are so that a recommendation can be made to Council in a proper form. Mr. Vachon fel t that every area that has the Page Eight January 27, 1959 -. . . . NEW ZONE R-l A REAR YARDS ADJOURN possibility of a subdivision should be shown and each Commissioner pro- vided with a copy. Mr. Nickl in stated that there would be in the mail before the next meet- ing a recommendation on the new zone as related to ordinance No. 990. There will also be sent a report on the rear yard as previously discussed These reports are being forwarded fo.r study before the next regular Plan- ning Commission meeting. There being no further business to come before the Commission, the mee ting adjourned. 'K~, L. M. TALLEY Planning Secretary