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MINUTES
ZONE CHANGE
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARCADIA
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 10, 1959
The Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia met in regular session
in the Council Chamber of the City Hall at 8:00 o'clock P.M., November
10, 1959 with Chairman Acker presiding.
PRESENT: Commissioners Acker, Davison, Forman, Norton, Stout and Wallin.
ABSENT:
Commissioner Michler
OTHERS PRESENT: Nicklin, Forbes, Talley and Mrs. Maroshek
The minutes of the meeting held October 27, 1959 were approved as
written and mailed.
The commission held a public' hearing on the application of Elvin T.
Wayment and others for a change of zone on the rear portion of the pro-
perty at 205, 219 and 229 E. Foothill Boulevard and 1120 N. Second
Avenue from Zone PR-l to Zones C-2 and D.
The Secretary read the report which stated the area in question involves
the first three lots east of Second Avenue on the north side of Foothill
Boulevard. These 3 lots, as well as the other lots fronting on Foothill
Boulevard to the east, are in Zone C-2 to a depth of 135'. The remain-
der of the lots are in Zone PR-l.
The rear 90" of Lot 1 have been developed with a single family dwelling
located at 1120 N. Second Avenue.
Lot 2, located at 219 E. Foothill contains 2 duplexes, one 2 story dwell-
ing and 2 other buildings. Lot 3 at 229 E. Foo.thill Boulevard is vacant.
All of these buildings are proposed to be removed.
The applicants wish to rezone the existing PR-l to Zone C-2 in order to
utilize the rear portion of the 3 lots for commercial building purposes.
The frontage, already in Zone C-2, would be used for parking purposes.
The plot plan shows a portion of the building to be situated on the rear
property line. Zone C-2 requires a minimum 20 foot rear yard.
If this zone change is granted the commission must consider the items to
be included in the Zone 0 regulations, such as plot plan, walls, light-
ing, landscaping, signs, height of buildings, etc.
Ordinance No. 1003 requires the installation of concrete curbs, gutters
and sidewalks for all new commercial buildings unless they are now exist-
ing.
The Secretary explained from the plot plan that the proposed market would
be built right to the rear l.ot line, allowing parking in the front and
parking to the west.
The Chairman announced that this is the time and place for public hear-
ing, and asked all those in favor to please come forward and state their
position.
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Mr. Thomas Suttner, Attorney for the applicants, stated he represents
Van Ness Development Company, which is actually the name for Ralph's
Grocery Company, one of the oldest grocery companies in the area.
He stated the frontage of the property is now zoned C-2 to a depth of
135 feet, and the balance of the property zoned PR-l for parking; pro-
per usage of the land requires C-2 zoning of the PR-l portions so that
the proposed buildings can be located with parking to the front rather'
than the rear.
The applicant felt it is in the interest of better planning, and would
permit better access from Foothill to install front parking with a
market on the rear line of the property. Mr. Suttner bel-ieved the build-
ing placed on the rear will be much more desirable in its effect on
adjacent property than a parking lot would be.
This type of plan with the market on the rear of the lot is a much more
modern approach to market design. He believed such a plan would lend
itself to better traffic control on Foothill Boulevard, and would also
result in a more desirable lighting plan. He added it is the intent of
the builder to keep the existing oak trees on the property; placing the
market right on the rear property line was more advantageous to the pro-
perties to the rear, because there wOuld be no market light, and no load-
ing zone with which to contend.
Mr. Forman directed a question to the Secretary, regarding the require-
ment of an alley to the rear of this property.
The Secretary answered there has never been an alley laid out on a map,
but the 20 foot rear yard applies in all C-2 zones, and the ordinance
stipulates further that if there is an alley to the rear of a proprty,
the 20 feet is measured from the center of the alley.
Mr. Suttner stated he did not see the advantage of an alley.
Mr. Forman stated that perhaps in the particular case of the applicant,
the alley would not be a necessity, but perhaps future stores to the east
could have need for such an alley.
Mr. Suttner expalined that it would be necessary to jog the alley, on
account of the odd size of Lots 1 and 2; he admitted that there would be
no access to Valencia Way, and that could present a problem in the future.
Mr. Donald R. Warren, Donald R. Warren Company, stated it is the plan to
accomplish the loading off of Second Avenue. Mr. Warren displayed to the
cOllllDission an architectural rendering of. the proposed structure.
The Chairman announced that this is the time and place for those opposed
to granting of this zone change request to come forward and state their
position.
Mr. D. C. Wheeler, owner of the lot directly behind Lot 3, which jogs,
stated it would be much nicer to have the parking on the rear of. the pro-
perty. He went on to say that markets are qulte dirty, and he has yet
to see loading done anywhere except from the rear of a market building;
he felt there is no reason why the developer can't come from Second Ave-
nue to do their loading. He would rather see the market to the front and
the parking on the rear of the lot; he added he spoke for other residents
on his street.
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ZONE C-3
West Arcadia
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The Chairman declared the matter would continued at the next regular
commission meeting, pending a report from the Zoning Committee.
The commission considered a decision on the proposal to rezone certain
proper,ty in West Arcadia to Zone C-3 and D as contemplated by Resolution
No. 335 (continued from meeting of October 13, 1959).
The Secretary read a communication from Jeanette Van Krimpen, which
stated briefly she was unable to attend the meeting due to illness, but
wished to express full agreement with the proposed zoning as discussed
at the public meeting of November 2, 1950.
The Secretary presented two petitions which protested the rezoning on
the grounds that the large scope of the area included in the proposed
rezoning should require submission to the entire City of Arcadia by pub-
lic hearings, or, if need be, by referendem. It added that all resi-
dents in the western part of the city should have been included in the
mailing of notices. Both petitions, dated November 10, 1959, were iden-
tical in statement. One petition contained 27 signatures, and another
contained 24 signatures.
The Secretary read the Zoning Committee report, dated October 29, 1959
which stated on July 14, 1959, by Resolution No. 335, the commission
instituted proceedings to consider a change of zone from Zones R-l and
R-3 to Zones C-2, C-3 and D on the area bounded by Duarte Road, Lovell
Avenue, Camino Real and Baldwin Avenue.
A public hearing on the matter was held on August 11, 1959. Practically
all of the residents on the south side of Camino Real protested against
making the street the dividing line between zones, and none of the Camino
Real owners expressed any particular desire for commercial zoning. Since
that time at other hearings and informal meetings with the owners, several
of the owners on the north side of Camino .Real have expressed a wish for
C- 3 zoning.
The committee is well aware of the fact that if and when the north side
of Camino Real develops to commercial use the property on the south side
of Camino Real should be studied and appropriate action taken.
There was no protest from residents on Naomi Avenue and no protest from
residents on the east Fide of Lovell Avenue.
It appears to be a unanimous opinion that the development of the area to
commercial use requires the opening of alleys and the dedication and
widening of streets to handle the traffic in the area. Also, that certain
screening and planting will be required to serve as a barrier between the
commercial and residential uses. In order to assure these improvements
they must be installed before or concurrently with the zoning becoming
effective.
To do all the street development and build the buildings in the entire
area at one time is not practical. It is recommended that the district
be divided into smaller areas, so that some of the work can proceed while
other areas are being worked out. These recommended areas are compara-
tively large, but cannot be made smaller because of problems concerning
drainage, traffic circulation, etc.
It is suggested that the commission consider the "following rezoning:
L Rezone the lot at 1424 S. Baldwin Avenue, now occupied by
a church, from Zone R-2 to Zone C-2.
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2. Rezone the property on the west side of Lovell Avenue from
Duarte Road to Camino Real, both sides of Naomi Avenue and
the north s ide of Camino Real from Lovell Avenue to the com-
mercial zone at Baldwin Avenue from Zones R-l and R-2 to
Zones C-3 and D, subject to the following conditions:
a. Dedicate 12 feet for the widening of Duarte
Road.
b. Dedicate the extension of the 30 foot alley
south of Duarte Road into Lovell Avenue.
c. Dedicate 12 feet on each side of Naomi Avenue
for street widening.
d. Dedicate 24 feet on the west side of Lovell
Avenue for street widening.
e. Provide a continuous north-south alley east of
Baldwin Avenue from Camino Real to the present
alley north of Naomi.
f. Dedicate a 30 foot alley approximately midway
between Naomi Avenue and Camino Real from the
north-south alley to Lovell Avenue.
g. Dedicate 24 feet on the north side of Camino
Real for street widening.
h. The cost of the improvement of all of the above
dedications, except the paving of Duarte Road,
to be borne by the property owners.
It is further suggested that the.requirements to be made applicable under
Zone D, include the following:
1. Screen the business development on Lovell Avenue from the
street and the residential property to the east as follows:
a. Landscape and maintain the first 10 feet west
of the new property line.
b. Construct an ornamental masonry wall, ranging
from 4-1/2 to 5-1/2 feet in height, located 10
feet west of Lovell Avenue.
c. The next, 60 feet west of the wall to be devoted
to public parking with no buildings to be con-
structed.
2. Landscape and beautify the front of the lots facing Naomi
Avenue as follows:
a. No building to be constructed nearer than 15
feet from. the new property line on Naomi Ave-
nue.
b. At least 9 feet of the above 15 foot setback
to be landscaped and maintained.
3. Landscape and maintain, construct wall and provide parking
along the north side of Camino Real identically with that
required along Lovell Avenue.
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4. No vehicular access to be allowed to the C-3 area from
Lovell Avenue or Camino Real, except at the dedicated
alleys.
5. The southwest coro~r of Duarte Road and Lovell Avenue
to have special spectacular landscape treatment.
6. Signs to be limited to 1 square foot of area for each
foot of building frontage. All signs to be mounted
flat against the building and no flashing roof signs
to be allowed.
7.. All lighting of the area and the buildings to be
directed away from adjoining residential property.
8. All plans to be submitted to the Planning Commission
for approval as to plot plan, architectural treatment,
walls, landscaping and signs before issuance of a
building permit.
It is recommended that the district be divided into development areas as
follows:
(1) West side of Lovell Avenue from Duarte Road to the alley
opposite LeRoy Avenue.
(2) Nor.th side of N,aomi Avenue.
(3) South side of Naomi Avenue.
(4) North side of Camino Real.
.It is recommended that the Planning Commission and City Council have
authority to make minor modif"ications in the specified areas and condi-
tions, if, in their opinion, such modification is needed a~d desirable
and will accomplish substantially the same results.
It is also suggested that if thp area has not developed within a period
of two years it shall be reviewed by the Planning Commission and appro-
priate action taken.
The Secretary stated that all property owners within the effected area
had received a copy of the above report, along with a map showing graph-
ically the proposals as they effect each part.
Mr. Stout stated that the commission had been studying this area for
some. time, with numerous public hearings and public meetings. He added
he believed it was the largest single piece of property zoned at one time,
and he believed it waa the largest single piece of property zoned at one
time, and he believed it is a matter for the entire city's concern. In
view of the city's growth, and possibilities for continued growth over
the next 10 or 15 years it seems the rezoning of this area will be to the
advantage of the residents rather than a detriment. He recommended that
the commission proceed along the lines they initiated, because he con-
siders it a constructive step.
Mr. Norton added he felt the commission had received public support all
through the proceedings, particularly from those people most vitally
effected, the property owners in the area which is proposed to be re-
zoned. He recommended approval of the rezoning.
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Mr. Davison stated it should be remembered that if the dev.elopment is
not realized as contemplated within a certain period of time, then the
property would revert back to its present zoning.
Mr. Fqrman desired to reiterate that if and when the planned improve-
ments develop, including the property on the north side of Camino Real,
then the residents on the south side of Camino Real will be given an
opportunity to. come before the commission with the problems that may
arise at that time.
Mr. Paul Hackstedde, 333 W. Camino Real, resides in the area between
Holly and El Monte, in what is known as the Baldwin Stock Acres. He
stated the largeness of the area considered for rezoninR will result in
changes, particularly traffic wise. He felt that although they were
outside the immediately effected area, the proposed changes would effect
them greatly, and they were therefore opposed to the change.
Mr. Stout stated that all indications point to the fact that there will
be a population increase in Arcadia, estimated to be between 50,000 and
60,000, and since the change is coming, the only thing to do is to rezone
in a manner to provide for the orderly development of the city. He
personally 5~visioned the City of Arcadia as a primarily residential city
and should/preserved as such. As long as the increased population is
coming, however, the only way to prepare for the increase is to plan nOWj
it cannot be done two or three years from now.
Mr. Clifford W. Sise, 345 w. Camino Real, stated he was concerned about
centering all of this development for commercial qse in West Arcadia.
He asked why should all the resulting factors of increased traffic and
so forth be restricted to one area, namely West Arcadiajthereby ruining
West Arcadia as a place in which it is desirable to reside.
Mr. Sise continued saying he hadn't heard of this proposed rezoning
until last week when his wife showed him a newspaper clipping. He didn't
consider this an. adequate way in which to notify the public of such an
important contemplated change.
The Chairman declared this matter has been before the commission for a
very long time, and that much publicity had been given it in. the local
papers. He explained that the Planning Commission makes a recommenda-
tion in the form of a resolution which is forwarded to the City Council,
before which another public hearing is held on the subject.
Mr. Davison stated that because of the expected widen~ng and develop.
ment of Baldwin Avenue, he did not see how anyone could hope to stop
commercial development along the wayj it seems inevitable.
The Chairman declared the public hearing closed.
Mr. Stout moved that the commission instruct the City Attorney to draw
a resolution in accordance with the recommendations as outlined in the
report dated October 29, 1959 for presentation to the City Council.
The motion was seconded by Mr. Norton.
ROLL CALL
AYES:ColIDDissioners Acker, Davison, Forman, Norton, Stout and Wallin.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Michler
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RESOLUTIONS
No. 349 - .The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 341, entitled:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF TIlE CITY
OF ARCADIA, CALn:ORNIA, RECOMMENDING THE AMENDMENT OF
ORDINANCE NO. 760 BY THE RECLASSIFICATION FROM ZONE R-l
TO ZONE C-2,AND ZONE D (ARCHITECTURAL OVERLAY) OF PRO-
PERTY LOCATED AT 2728 SOUTH BALDWIN ,AVENUE."
Moved by Mr. Forman, seconded by Mr. Wallin and carried to waive the
reading of the full body of Resolution No. 349.
Moved by Mr. Stout, seconded by Mr. Forman for the adoption of Resolution
No. 349.,
ROLL CALL
AYES: Commissioners Acker, Davison, Forman, Norton, Stout and Wallin
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Michler
No. 350 - The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 350, entitled:
"A RESOLUTIeN OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF TIlE CITY OF
ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THE DENIAL OF A ZONE VARI-
ANCE AND/OR SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION AND
OPERATION OF A FIFTY-SEVEN BED CONVALESCENT HOME."
Moved by Wallin, seconded by Norton and carried to waive the reading of
the full body of Resolution No. 350.
Moved by Norton, seconded by Forman for the adoption of Resolution No.
350.
ROLL CALL
AYES: COllllllissioners Acker, 'Davison, Forman, Norton, Stout and Wallin
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Michler
No. 351 - The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 351, entitled:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARCADIA, RECOMMENDING THE AMENDMENT OF SECTION 7-B OF
ORDINANCE NO. 760 OF SAID CITY BY SO DEFINING BASEMENT
PARKING AS TO CONSTITUTE A STORY IN COMPUTING HEIGHT OF
BUILDINGS IN THE R-3 ZONE UNLESS THE CEILING OF ANY SUCH
BASEMENT BE NOT MORE THAN TWO FEET ABOVE THE ADJACENT
CURB LEVEL."
Mr, Nicklin explained to Mr. Stout that this resolution does more than
simply define basement parking; it recommends that the cOllllllission's
previous Resolution No. 341 be shaded in the light of this recolIDDenda-
tion. He also explained that in. using the wording "so many square feet
per family", instead of "per dwelling unit", the City Attorney was only
following the wording as it now exists in the ordinance.
Mr. Stout wished to go on record as voting no because he did not believe
in tandem parking.
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Moved by Mr. Wallin, seconded by Mr. Forman and carried to waive
the reading of the full body of Resolution No. 351.
Moved by Mr. Davison, seconded by Mr. Norton for the adoption of
Resolution No. 351.
ROLL CALL
AYES: COllllllissioners Acker, Davison, Forman, Norton and Wallin
NOES: COllllllissioner Stout
ABSENT: COllllllissioner Michler
No. 352, - The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 352, entitled:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSioN OF THE CITY
OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA, INSTITUTING PROCEEDINGS FOR THE
PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS CON-
CERNING THE AMENDMENT OF ORDINANCE NO. 760 OF THE CITY
OF ARCADIA BY ADDING THERETO A NEW SECTION 6.5 ENTITLED
"R"3-R "RESTRICTED MULTIPLE-FAMILY ZONE" AND AMENDING
RELATED SECTIONS OF SAID ORDINANCE TO CONFORM THEREWITH."
Moved by Mr. Wallin, seconded by Mr. Forman and carried to waive the
reading of the full body of Resolution No. 352.
Moved by Mr. Davison, seconded by Mr. Forman for the adoption of Resol-
ution No. 352.
ROLL CALL
AYES: COllllllissioners Acker, DaYison, Forman, Norton, Stout and Wallin.
NOES: None
ABSENT: COlllDlissioner Michler
No. 353. -The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 353, entitled:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA INSTITUTING PRqCEEDINGSFOR THE
PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS CON-
CERNING THE RE-ESTABLISHMENT IN ZONE R-l AND THE RECLAS-
SIFICATION TO SOME LESS RESTRICTIVE RESIDENTIAL OR COM-
MERCIAL ZONE OF THE PROPERTIES INCLUDED IN "WEST ARCADIA
ANNEXATION NO. 14" AND THOSE PROPERTIES LYING NORTH OF
LEMON AVENUE INCLUDED WITHIN "ANNEXATION NO. 17-A, SOUTH-
WEST ARCADIA INHABITED", AND FIXING THE DATE, HOUR AND
PLACE OF A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD FOR SUCH PURPOSES."
Moved by Mr. Stout, seconded by Mr. Norton and carried to waive the
reading of the full body of Resolution No. 353.
Moved by Mr. Norton, seconded by Mr. Stout for the adoption of Resolu-
tion No. 353.
ROLL CALL
AYES: COllllllissioners Acker, Davison, Forman, Norton, Stout and Wallin
NOES: None
ABSENT: COlllDlissioner Michler
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LOT SPL ITS
No. 354. - The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 354, entitled:
lOA RESOLUTION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
. OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMEND.ING THE AMENDMENT OF
ORDINANCE NO. 760 BY THE RE-ESTABLISHHENT IN ZONE R-1
AND THE RECLASSIFICATION TO ZONES R-3, PR-3, C-2 AND
C-3 OF CERTAIN PROPERTY IN ntE, SOUTHERLY PORTION OF
ANNEXATION NO. l7-A, SOUTHWEST ARCADIA INHABITED PRE-
SENTLY ZONED R-1 BY REASON OF ITS ANNEXATION TO SAID
CITY."
Moved by Mr. Forman, Seconded by Mr. Wallin and carried to waive the
reading of the full body of Resolution No. 354.
Moved by Mr. Stout, seconded by Mr. Wallin for the adoption of Resol-
ution No. 354.
ROLL CALL
AYES: Commissioners Acker, Davison, Forman, Norton, Stout and Wallin
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Michler
No. 355 - The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 355, entitled:
"A RESOLUTION OF ntE CITY PLANNING COMMISSI9N OF ntE CITY
OF ARCADIA, cALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING ntE AMENDMENT OF
OltDINANCE NO. 760 OF SAID CITY BY THE l\ECLASSIFICATION
TO ZONES C-2, C-3 alid D, UPON PERFORMANCE OF SPECIFIED
CONDITIoNs PRECEDENT, OF ALL THAT PROPERTY BOUNDED BY
DUARTE ROAD, LOVELL AVENUE, CAMINO REAL AND' BALDWIN
AVENUE AND NOT A.l.READY ZONED COMMERCIALLY." .
Moved by Mr. Norton, seconded. by Mr. Forman and carried to waive the
reading of the full body of Resolution No. 355.
Moved by Mr. Forman, seconded by Mr. Norton for the adoption of Resolu-
tion No. 355.
ROLL CALL
AYES: Commissioners Acker, Davison, Forman, Norton,. Stout and Wallin
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Michler
The City Attorney was excused by the commission at 9:30 P.M., and
left the chambers.
No. 269 - Elizabeth M. Smith, 1105 Mayflower Avenue, referred to Mr.
Fo.rman and Mr. Stout.
The Secretary explained that this is a lot which did not enter into the
subdi"ision when Loganrita Avenue was subdivided, consequently there was
a trust set up .on this lot to insure that it would pay its share of the
cost .if and when the lot split was requested.
Mr. Forman stated he had viewed the site, and the lot had been cleaned
up and the split wouid be a'very desirable one.
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Moved by Mr. Forman, seconded by Mr. Stout and carried to recommend
the approval of Lot Split No. 269, subject to the following conditions:
1. File a final map with the City Engineer.
2. Dedicate sufficient land to make Loganrita Avenue 60'
wide.
3. Pay $15.00 recreation fee.
4. Pay the trust established by Tract No. 21714.
5. The city shall dedicate the strip covered by the
above trust.
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No. 270. - Kenneth C. 'West, 410 E. Camino Real.
Mr. Forman stated he viewed the area, and he felt it is a problem.
He felt that because allowing the split would nedessitate a private
street, that perhaps the request was not very desirable. He stated the
house which is blocking Winnie Way's extension might someday come out,
thereby allowing the continuation of the street.
Mr. West, the applicant, came forward and stated that his land
blighted by weeds due to the excessive area which is not used.
this proposal is the only way he can develop the property, and
not be detrimental to .surrounding property.
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He fel t
it would
Mr. Forbes, the Director of Public Works, stated that allowing a priv-
ate street is setting a dangerous precedent, inasmuch as his department
fights the problems of private streets everyday..
Th,!re are difficulties with adequate fire and police protection, water
service, sewer facH ities, drainage, etc. Private s.treets are more undes-
irable, particularly.from the standpoint of the responsible resident.
Mr. Norton stated that someday if it could be arranged to have Winnie
Way come' through, the situation would be different. He did not believe
the commission should endorse this type of development, since it is
not in keeping, and is substandard development,.
Moved by Mr. Norton, seconded by Mr. Stout and carried to recommend the
denial without prejudice of Lot Split No. 270.
No. 271 - C. D. Anderson, 161 E. Live Oak Avenue
This property is now zoned C-2; one split has already been allowed;
one one parcel is the Shell Oil Station on the corner of Live Oak and
Second Avenues, and this request is for the next 70' to the west.
Moved by Mr. Stout, seconded by Mr. Forman and carried to recommend
the approval of Lot Split No. 271, subject to the following conditions:
1. File a final map with the City Engineer.
2. Pay $25.00 recreation fee.
3. Construct the wall and place the required planting
along the south line of Sandra Avenue and the south
line of Lot 8, Tract No. 19707.
4. Construct the gutter and pave the dedicated alley from
Second Avenue to the west end of the dedication at the
west line of Lot 5, Tract No. 12670.
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rRACT NO.
25340
No. 25340 - The commission considered the tentative map of Tract No.
25340, containing 18 lots, located on Encino Avenue and Camino Grove
Avenue.
The Secretary read the Subdivision Committee's report which stated this
tract is located on the southerly extension of Encino Avenue to Camino
Grove Avenue'and the westerly extension of Camino Grove Avenue to
Sixth Avenue, and contains 18 lots.
Generally, the lots are well above the minimum re~uired width and area.
Lots 2, 9 and 10 are 70 feet wide, but are well above minimum area,
and no more land is available.
The extension of Camino Grove Avenue is shown as 50 foot wide right of
way to match the existing dedication.
A portion of Lots 10, 11 and 12 are now occupied by Siemer's poultry
ranch. It is very probable that Lots 7 to 15 inclusive will not be
developed until the ranch is discontinued on January I, 1961.
It is proposed that ail of "An street and that portion of Encino Avenue,
between the north line of Lot 16 and the nortl\ line of Lot 15 will be
offered for dedication as a future street until the poultry is discon-
tinued. The portion of Encino Avenue between 'lots 13 and 14 is now ded-
icated.
However, all the streets, except a portion, 30 feet by 92.5 feet adjac-
ent to Lot 12, will be improved and open for traffic. This will provide
circulation and relieve the congestion on Camino Grove Avenue 'at the
school.
It is recommended that the subdivider attempt to secure an additional
9 feet east of Lot 18 and an additional 20 feet east of Lot 14 to pro-
vide a straight rear lot line for installation of pole lines. This will
result in the lot at 1303 Eighth Avenue Which, has 2 houses, and the lot
at 1203 Eighth Avenue with 3 houses, slightly below required area, but
in the opinion of .the committee, will b.e abetter develo,pment.
The tract is recommended for approval, subject to the following condi-
tions:
1. Remove all buildings within the tract and across outer
boundary lines" except the dwelling on Lot 2.
2. Relocate the garage on Lot 2.
3. Dedicate a 5 foot planting and sidewalk easement along
Camino Grove Avenue.
4. Dedicate a corner cut off at the northeast corner of
Encino Avenue and Camino Grove Avenue.
5. Install all street improvements as required by the sub-
division ordinance.
6. Pay the following fees and deposits:
18 lots recreation fee
9 steel street light posts
53 street trees
6 street name signs
@ $ 25.00
@ 135.00
@ 8.50
@ 35.00
$ 450.00
1,215.00
450.50
210.00
$2,325.50
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7. Provide all necessary rear line utility easements.
8. The school district shall dedicate the barrier at the
end of Camino Grove Avenue for street purposes.
9. The city shall dedicate the barrier at the end of
Encino Avenue for street purposes.
10. The city shall pay to the subdivider the appropriate
amounts previously deposited with the city to apply
on the opening of Camino Grove Avenue into Sixth
Avenue.
Mr. Forman commended Mr. Knudsen's tentative plan on this tract,
because it is in keeping with all the Planning Commission's ideas of
what a good tract should consist.
Moved by Mr. Stout, seconded by Mr. Forman and carried to recommend
approval of Tract No. 25340, subject to the following conditions:
1. Remove all buildings, within the tract and across outer
boundary lines, except the dwelling on Lot 2.
2. Relocate the garage on Lot 2.
3. Dedicate a 5 foot planting and sidewalk easement along
Camino Grove Avenue.
4. Dedicate a corner cut off at the northeast corner of
Encino Avenue and Camino Grove Avenue.
5. Install. all street improvements as required by the sub-
division ordinance.
6. Pay the following fees and deposits:
18 lots recreation fee
9 steel street light posts
53 street trees
6 street name signs
@ $ 25.00
@ 135.00
@ 8.50
@ 35.00
$ 450.00
1,215.00
45'0. 50
210.00
$2,325.50
7. Provide all necessary rear line utility ease~nts.
8. The school district shall dedicate the barrier at
the end of Camino Grove Avenue for street purposes.
9. The city shall dedicate the barrier at the end of
Encino Avenue for street purposes,
10. The city shall pay to the subdivider the appropriate
amounts previously deposited with the city to apply
on the opening of Camino Grove Avenue into Sixth
Avenue.
I.EAVE OF
ABSENCE
The commission considered a request from Commissioner Wallin for a
leave of absence from three Planning Commission meetings because of
a planned vacation trip.
Moved by Mr: Stout, seconded by Mr. Norton and carried to grant the
requested 'leave of absence to Commissioner Wallin.
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BUSINESS
CLASSIFICATION
AUDIENCE TO
COMMISSION
MODIFICATION
Allen
MEETING
SCHEDULE
SUBDIVISION
AMENDMENTS
The Secretary stated that he had received two inquiries recently
seeking a proper location for the business of clipping and groom-
ing poodle dogs.
After considerable discussion it was concluded that this classifi-
cation should be included in Zone C-l, along with pet shops.
Mr.' John P. Vidicari, 19 California Street" asked about basement park-
ing, particularly in regard to the wording 2' above the top of the
curb as it applies to lots which elevate rapidly toward the rear.
The Secretary answered that there will be individual problems which will
come up in the future, and those individual proolems will be referred
to the modification committee for consideration.
Mr. Vidican questioned that the public had been sufficiently notified
of the contemplated changes proposed in R-3 zone, especially the 1800
square feet of land per family dwelling.
The Secretary answered that these details were included in the commis-
sion J s public hearing; and had also been included in the hearing
before the City Council.
The Secretary stated that a modification hearing had been held, and this
request was being referred to the Planning Commission for decision.
The applicant was seeking permission to build a guest house at the rear
of the lot located at 2420 El Monte Avenue, within 5 feet of the lot
line. The proposed structure would contain .906 square feet, including
living room, 2 bedrooms, bath, laundry room and storage room.
Mrs. Allen, the applicant, stated her reason for wishing to construct
this dwelling is that a relative visits her frequently and remains for
sustained periods of time. Also, she needs additional ,room for storage
and washing facilities.
The Chairman stated that such a dwelling was not in accordance with the
commission's idea of a guest house, and could encourage similar requests.
If the applicant should sell her present property with such a dwelling .
added,the next resident could install kitchen facilities, and rent
the structure thereby setting a poor precedent in an R-l. neighborhood.
After considerable discussion it was moved by Mr. Norton, seconded by
Mr. Forman and carried to deny this request for approval of a guest
house.
The commission set up a meeting of the Subdivision Committee, for 4:00
P.M., Monday, November 16, i959 and another meeting of the Zoning and
Subdivision Committees for 7:00 P.M., Monday, November 16, 1959 in
order to set up a plan for zoning of the section of Annexation No.. 17-A
lying north of Lemon Avenue.
The Secretary discussed the proposed amendments to the subdivision
o~dinance in relation to lot sizes and areas for R-O and R-l property.
The commission instructed the Secretary to forward a communication to
the City Council advising the council of the recommendations of the
Planning Commission, 'as folloWS: '
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R-O ZONE - NORTH OF HUNTIN.GTON DRIVE
Minimum lot area
Minimum lot width at front building line
. Minimum lot depth
20,000 sq. ft.
100 Feet
150 Feet
R-O ZONE - SOUTH OF HUNTINGTON DRIVE
Minimum lot area
Minimum lot width at front building line
Minimum lot depth
15,000 Sq. Ft.
100 Feet
125 Feet
R-l ZONE
Minimum lot area
Minimum lot width at front building line
Minimum lot depth
9,000 Sq. Ft.
75 Feet
100 Feet
ADJOURN
There being no further business to come before the Planning CODDDission
the meeting was adjourned at 11:00 P.M.
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L. M. TALLEY
Planning Secretary
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