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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARCADIA
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 14, 1960
The Planning Commission of the City of Arcadia met in regular session
in the Council Chamber of the City Hall at 8: 00 0 I clock P..M., June
14, 1960, with Chairman Acker presiding.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Commissioners Acker, Forman, Golisch, Michler, Norton and
Stout
ABSENT:
Commissioner Davison
OTHERS
PRESENT:
City Councilman Edward L. Butterworth
City Attorney James A. Nicklin
Director of Public Works C. E. Lortz
Planning Secretary L. M. Talley
MINUTES
The minutes of the meeting of May 24, 1960 were approved as written
and mailed.
ZONING
OItDINANCE
Al>lENDMENT
The commission continued the public hearing on the proposed amendment
of Sections 15 and 16 of the Zoning Ordinance concerning structural
alterations of non-conforming buildings.
The Planning Secretary read the revised report which resulted from
the committee meeting of a week ago; the report stated the committee
and the staff have extensively restudied this problem and reviewed
the suggestions mad~ by property owners and tenants at the conference
held on June 6, 1960.
It appears that the majority of the interested parties are in agree-
ment with the general proposal for upgrading the old business area,
but there are some differences on the proposed details.
In the opinion of the committee and staff, any upgrading will be on
an individual basis and it will take considerable time to accomplish
the ultimate desire of the commission. We feel that any improvement
in the srea is a step in the right direction and should be encouraged.
The type of improvement we have in mind is the alteration and beauti-
fication of the rear of the present buildings to create an attractive
rear entrance for the present tenants, and not just to add an addi-
tional tenant without providing the additional entrance to the exist-
ing building.
We recommend that the following suggestions be given serious consider-
ation:
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Commercial buildings which have been assessed for the creation
of a public vehicle parking district and which ar.e or may become
non-conforming for the sole reason of not having the required
off-street parking spaces may be added to or structurally
altered to provide attractive rear entrances, subject to the
following regulations:
1. Where such property abuts a public alley, such build-
ing and its additions may extend to a line not l.ess than 35
feet from the alley line.
2.. A Portland cement concrete sidewalk, or its equivalent,
not less than 8 feet wide shall be constructed the full width
of the building site adjoining the rear line of the building.
3. A planting area not less than 5 feet wide shall be pro-
vided adjoining the sidewalk; such planting area shall be con-
tained within concrete curbs with suitable passageways for
pedestrians, and shall be landscaped and maintained.
4. The rear 22 feet of the lot adjacent to the alley shall
be paved and maintained as a public parking area. The parking
area shall have painted lines marking the parking stalls in a
manner most conducive to the overall parking plan of the area.
5. The addition or alteration of the building shall
include an 8 foot wide marquee the full width of the builaing
at a minimum height of 8 feet above the sidewalk.
6. No roof s.igns to be permitted on the rear of the build-
ing. Any wall signs shall be mounted parallel with the build-
ing and flush against the wall. Any slgn mounted on the
marquee shall not exceed 18 inches in height. Any sign
mounted under the marquee shall have a minimum of 7 feet
ance above the sidewalk and a maximum of 5 feet length.
flashing signs shall be permitted on the rear portion of
building.
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7. All plans for such additions and alterations shall be
subject to approval by the Planning Commission before the
issuance of a building permit. In granting such approval the
commission shall require harmony and uniformity of design,
planting and colors.
8. In areas where the subject property does not abut a
dedicated alley, the Planning Commmission shall consider the
area and attempt to work out a plan that will substantially
conform with the above suggestions.
9. In the opinion of the committee the contemplated re-
development of the area is of sufficient general interest
that no additional contributions to the parking district
fund should be required.
The Planning Secretary explained that there have been some minor
changes in this report compared to the earlier one presented,spec-
ifically as regards .the parking at right angles to the alley at the
rear of the buildings; the sign requirements have been modified to
allow a sign mounted flat against the building, as well as to allow a
sign under the marquee so that one could locate the different shops from
the walk.
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The Chairman .suggested that this would be the time for cODDllents from
the cODDllissioners on the report which had just been presented.
C01lDllissioner Michler stated that he felt this report came as close to
the solution of these problems as was possible. He added that it was
his impression that this improvement is not going to be realized all
at one time, but that it will probably stretch over a period of years;
particularly in one case in which the merchant was not interested in
making any improvement for at least seven years.
Commissioner Michler continued that he concurred with the recommenda-
tions in the report and the particular control covered by Item No.7,
which stipulated that the commission must pass approval on all planned
:lmprovemen ts.
The Planning. Secretary read a cOlIDDUnication signed by John T. Hastings,
Attorney at Law, Los Angeles, which, briefly stated, that his wife Mrs.
Lois M. Hastings is the owner of the property at 47-49. E. Huntington
Drive, and that their present tenant Mr. Walter E. Gockley is an excel-
lent one, who has contributed a great deal to the City of Arcadia.
The letter went on to state that the writer believed this is a fine co~
mercial area, with a fine future, and they would like to make certain
suggestions for consideration. Mr. Hastings felt that the type of com-
mercial area whe1l!..bis property is located did not require much provision
for loading space, inasmuch as a great deal of their shipping is done
either by mail or express which is often handled right through the front
door.
In reference to parking, the writer felt that Arcadia had sufficient off
Street parking, and he also recommended that the commission seriously
consider the possibility of allowing the owners to improve the building
back to the alley line which would be the full expanse of the property
in order that the tenant may present his full line of merchandise.
Commissioner Norton stated there might still be an avenue of possibility
that these property owners could get together and entertain the possi-
bility of doing this work at the same time and to have the cost pro-
rated on an amortized basis, in order to accomplish the type of continu-
ity which seems so desirable.
Commissioner Forman stated that as long as the commission has adequate
control over any improvements which would be sought, he did not feel
that it would be practical, even though desirable to realize the com-
plete and continuous development described by Commissioner Norton. He
felt that the suggestions as outlined in the report were a step in the
right direction.
Mr. Ed Mullin, 51 E. Huntington Drive stated that he went along with
everything except the recommended 35 foot setback from the alley; he
is located right next door to the Goodyear Building which abuts the
alley. He wondered what use could be made of the setback of 35 feet
as .recommended in the report. The members of the commission informed
Mr. Mullin that it was proposed to use this setback for additional park-
ing. Mr. Mullin concluded that this sounded like a very feasible plan.
Councilman Butterworth asked the Planning SecretarY what the purpose
of a sidewalk with different lengths of setbacks might serve.
The Planning Secretary answered that the committee and the commission
had in mind the hope that eventually the stores would come out to the
35 foot line or to a uniform line of some sort, so that there would be
a sidewalk area on which to walk from one doorway to another. That was
the reason for requiring the marquee in case of inclement weather to
accomodate the shoppers. It is realized that for some years this is
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not going to happen entirely. One of the merchants at the meeting on
June 6 ,stated that he planned no improvement on his building for the
next seven years. Others do not plan anything for the development .of
their property., but it was the hope of the commission that eventually
a continuous walk could be realized. .
Councilman Butterworth stated that he concurred with the view
expressed that unless there is a single plan submitted by the mer-
chants themselves, he felt that inertia would almost terminate the
idea.
Commissioner Michler stated that he felt that this is a matter which
will require the full cooperation of the owners., the staff and the
Planning Commission. He felt that something has to be worked out in
the interest of the merchants who do wish to improve and expand; may
be the plans as outlined will not be the ultimate, but as the plans
come before the commission, something might be worked out which would
be very desirable.
The City Attorney stated that he had two comments to make:
One; if this plan is to result in the amendment of the ordinance the
amendment would apply to any area where the parking district is estab-
lished, and the requirements as outlined in the report have been
tailored to more or less fit the present area under consideration. In
creating abstract criteria the commission must keep in mind that it may
also apply to other areas.
Two; there is no relationship stated in these conditions limiting the
amount of increased floor space that may be added. Floor space will
increase the need for parking; it's important because the parking dis-
tricts were formed and the properties assessed in large measure on the
basis of the improvements on the property. A person who had unimproved
property was assessed appreciably less than those who were fully
developed. If, for example, a property owner had only one third of his
property covered by a one story building; if he is allowed to build up
to within 35 feet of the alley and make a two story building on top of
that, he's going to get the greatest share of the parking and have paid
the least of anyone in the. whole district. These are the possibilities
which the commission should consider; there should be restrictiaB on
the amount of floor area which may be added to existing structures.
The 'Planning Secretary stated that when the hearings were first insti-
tuted it was discussed that if floor space were added some contribution
would be required. However, the merchants didn't seem to favor this
plan; as an example, the leher from Mr. Hastings which was read
earlier stated that he would like to build clear back to the alley,
because they have more parking than is needed in the present public
parking lot. We tried to point out to them that if the improvements
are made they would need more parking, and that was the reason for
keeping the rear 35 feet open to provide a certain amount of possible
overflow parking.
The City Attorney stated that properties were assessed in large measure
by the improvements located on their property, and those improvements
are the expensive item of the assessment. Compare this situation with
a person who had less expensive improvements, and after has has received
all the bill he is ever going to get, because you can never reassess a
property nor ever include it in another district, adds to his floor
area. It won't be a problem until somebody does build a large commer-
cial building on one of the vacant lots which will use the lion's share
of the parking.
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Moved by Commissioner Stout, seconded by Commissioner Forman to close
the public hearing on this matter.
Commissioner Stout stated there seems to be a wide divergence of
opinion on the method of arriving at the amendments to Sections 15
and 16 of the Zoning Ordinance at this time. He was not so sure that
a marquee is the best type of deSign for this area; West Arcadia shop-
ping area does a fine business and they have no marquees; also, the
walks do not line up inasmuch as the setbacks of the buildings are
different. He felt that it is a matter of economics for any merchant
to want to have a right to expand to obtain the maximum amount of use,
out of it; one would have to be sympathetic to the desire of building
right to the alley, which would result in more services to the people
of Arcadia.
Commissioner Stout cOlmnended the committee and staff for the fine work
and study put forth on this matter as outlined in the report presented
tonight. He recommended that the report be referred to the Downtown
Businessmen's Association for their review, and end this matter until
they come back with agreement that the recommendation be adopted or
with whatever modifications they wish.
The Chairman informed the commission that with the closing of the pub-
lic hearing. a time limit on a decision had been established.
Commissioner Mich~r stated that he had no particular feeling about a
marquee; the only reason that it was included in the requirements was
that a proposed plan had been submitted to the committee selected to
study this problem, and this plan showed a marquee.
Commissioner Norton stated that the commission would be defeating
everything it had started out to accomplish if the uniformity of design
was not maintained. Either the properties are improved on the basis of
an overall plan; the commission must make it mandatory that the devel-
opment be uniform or it will not be giving the merchants the. assistance
they sought originally. ..
The Chairman asked if it would be possible to establish some type of
time limit, that if no improvements were realized by a certain date,
the ordinance, as it now is written, will stand.
The City Attorney stated that he did not wish to go on record as being
opposed to assisting this downtown area, however, he has had experience
enough to know sometimes in anxiety to help, you can fall into a trap
and destroy the very thing that you're trying to accomplish by not
making adequate safeguards.
COllllll1ssioner Michler stated that in the interest of saving time, he
would recommend that the matter be referred back to the Downtown
Business Association for review and possible action.
Commissioner Forman stated that he believed that the City Attorney
has opened up new avenues of consideration, such as limiting the
square footage of improvements on existing buildings and placing
a possible time limit on the improvements. . These new thoughts
necessitate the continuing of the public hearing to allow time for
the businessmen affected t\>study and arrive at some definite con-
clusions.
It was pointed out that the motion to close the public hearing had not
been voted on. The motion and the second were withdrawn.
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LOT SPLlT
WEST ARCADIA
ZON ING
Moved by Commissioner Michler, seconded by Commissioner Forman and
carried to continue this public hearing unt~ the meeting of July
26, 1960.
No. 294 - Charlotte L. Sutton, 1030 Portola Drive, referred to Mr.
Forman and Mr.. Golisch.
The Planning Secretary read the .engineer's report Which stated that
this lot contains approximately 12,000 square feet and has a frontage
of 190 feet. The split proposes lots of only 6000 square feet; it
warrants consideration. The development of the lot presents serious
problems because of its excessive frontage.
The Planning Secretary read a letter from Wesley Davies of Rancho
Santa Anita which stated that the letter was a certification that
the corporation has approved the lot split.
Commissioner Forman stated that he had viewed the property, and he
could not see the practicality of allowing this split even though he
could sympathize with the applicant's problem. He felt that 6000
square feet in a lot is entirely too small,.cand that to build two homes
on the property would be very impractical.
Mrs. Charlotte Sutton stated that she purchased this part of lot 6
six years ago; she has had the lot up for sale all this time, and has
been unable to sell it. Because of the location of the lot it is not
a good area for building a home and raising children, due to the traffic
conditions which exist.
After considerable discussion, it was IIlOved by Commissioner Golisch,
seconded by Commissioner Norton and carried to recommend the denial
of Lot Split No. 294.
ROLL CALL
AYES: Commissioners Acker. Forman, Go1isch. Michler, Norton and Stout.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Davison
The Planning Secretary explained to the commission that along with
Annexation l7-A the commission considered Annexation No. 14, and
made certain recommendations to the City Council. The City Council
has adopted the commission'srecommenclations as they apply to the pro-
perty on the south side of Duarte Road.
At the request of the commission the two resolutions pertaining to
Annexation 14 and Annexation No. 17-A from Lemon Avenue north have been
referred back for consideration. Plans have been submitted for the
improvement of the southwest corner of Camino Real and Baldwin Avenue
to a commercial development which would need a C-2 or C-3 zone to
allow what is planned. Today a tentative plan was filed for the develop-
ment of the two lots at the corners of Ca1lita Street by Robinson Brothers
and it appears to be the desire of the commission to hold a new hearing
on this entire matter of Annexation 14.
The Planning Secretary pointed out on the map. the background of hearings
and all steps leading up to the recommendations by the commission. He
concluded that if the resolution pertaining to the balance of Annexation
No. 17-Ai lying north of Lemon Avenue is in accord with the commission's
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views they should refer it back to the council for action so as not
to keep the property owners waiting for any possible improvement they
may wish to realize.
Commissioner Norton stated that he wished to express himself that the
complexion of the entire area.is destined for change. With the advent
of the freeway, the potential turnoff of Baldwin Avenue will be a link-
age from the San Bernardino'Freeway to the Foothill Freeway; rather
than zone the area piecemeal, he wondered if it wouldn't be more real-
istic to zone Baldwin Avenue entirely as it woul.d be affected by these
anticipated changes; he believed that the people of Arcadia should be
brought into this, and that they should take a long look now.
The Director of Public Works in answer to a request for a description
of the status of Baldwin Avenue stated that about 30 years ago a
countywide master highway plan was established and Baldwin Avenue was
one of the streets included in this master plan. Baldwin Avenue from
Huntington Drive to Colorado was widened and improved through use of
county funds; about 50% of Baldwin Avenue through Arcadia is now cap-
able of handling 4 lanes of traffic; about 50% of it through county
territory is available for 4 lanes of traffic.
There are discussions and serious plans to construct an underpass at
the Foothill Freeway at the prolongation of Baldwin Avenue; Rosemead
.Boulevard and Santa Anita Avenue are the only main north-south routes
in this area, and these two streets are carrying more traffic than they
can comfortably handle. The improvement of Baldwin Avenue will lighten
the load on these two thoroughfares. In the past few months funds have
been set up for the widening of Baldwin from Live Oak Avenue to Las
Tunas Drive. It may not be accomplished this or the next calendar
year, because there is a County Flood Control 'District storm drain
planned for Baldwin; it would not be practical to improve this portion
until after the storm drain project is completed.
The City Attorney added that south from Lower Azusa Road all the way
to the Southern Pacific Railroad tracks, the county fairly recently
opened and widened Baldwin Avenue, and they are in the process of
surveying from the Southern Pacific Railroad tracks to Valley Boule-
vard; so far as it becoming a major highway, it has been so determined
for some 30 years, and all steps have beenin that direction.
Commissioner Stout stated that in support of Commissioner Norton's
remarks, it should be observed that 30 years ago the planners could
not possibly have envisaged that Arcadia was to be the city it is today;
this master plan of highways should have no bearing on what the City
of Arcadia wants to have. He believed that whether or not the city
wants a throughway cutting up the city both from north to south and
from east to west is a matter for the entire city to consider.
The Director of Public Works stated that the 1929 master plan of high-
ways has been followed very closely, and is constantly being reviewed,
reevaluated and modified by the Regional Planning Commission and the
County Road Department.
After continued discussion the Planning Commission reaffirmed its decl:-
sion on Resolution No. 364 pertaining to the part of Annexation No. l7-A
lying north of Lemon Avenue, except the south side of Duarte Road.
ROLL CALL
AYES: Acker, Forman, Golisch, Michler and Stout
NOES: Commissioner Norton
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ABSENT: Commissioner Davison
RESOLUTICN
No. 377
The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 377, entitled:
"A RESOLUT"ION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA, INSTITUTING PROCEEDINGS FOR THE
PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS CONCEltN-
ING THE REESTABLISHING IN ZONE R-l AND THE RECLASSIFYING
TO SOME LESS RESTRICTIVE RESIDENTIAL OR COMI-lERCIAL ZONE
THE PROPERTIES INCLUDED IN "WEST ARCADIA ANNEXATION NO.
14" AND FIXING THE DATE, HOUR AND PLACE OF A PUBLIC HEAR-
ING TO BE HELD FOR SUCH PURPOSES."
Moved by Commissioner Forman, seconded by Commissioner Michler and
carried to waive the reading of the full body of Resolution No. 377.
Moved by Commissioner Forman, seconded by Commissbner Michler for the
adoption of Resolution Na. 377.
ROLL CALL
AYES: Commissioners Acker, Forman, Golisch, Michler, Norton and Stout
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Davison
MASTER PLAN
The Planning Secretary read a communicatio~ representing the Rancho
Santa Anita Property Owner's Association, Santa Anita Village Community
Association, West Arcadia Home Owner's Association, Rancho Santa Anita
Resident's Association and South Arcadia Home Owner's Association, which
briefly, supported the adoption of a master plan for the City of Arcadia.
The Planning Secretary read another communication from the Arcadia
I!oard of Realtors. The Board of RealtoIl;.w1shed to tender to the city
their complete services, records for surveys, appraisals, consul tation
or in an advisory capacity at no cost or obligation to the city.
The Chairman announced to the commission that he had received a verbal
request from the Mayor through the City Manager to give consideration
to a joint meeting of the City Council and the Planning Commission for
the purpose of listening to 3 or 4 professional planners, including
some university professors allowing each about 30 minutes to present
their case on master planning.
Commissioner Stout stated that the commission should extend its thanks
to the Realty Board for its offer to assist the commission in its con-
sideration of a master plan. Also, he commented that in the first
letter regarding the master plan the letter stated that more and more
communities have been taking advantage of a master plan; in his inves-
tigations he does not find a single city of the type of Arcadia pre-
sently contemplating a master plan. The letter made reference to gen-
eralities and vaguenesses in the Zoning Ordinance, and after reading
all the ordinances he found nothing vague about the zoning law.
The Chairman stated that when such meetings have been set up by the
City Manager each member will be notified.
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COUNTY
REZONING
MATTERS FROM
TliE AUDIENCE
ADJOURN
The Planning Secretary presented notice of a req'uest for change of
zone from Zone A-l to Zone M-l-l/2 (Restricted Heavy Manufacturing)
at northeast corner of Peck Road and Clark Street from the Regional
Planning Commission.
The Planning Secretary explained that. the Arcadia property across
Peck Road is unzoned.
The Director of Public Works described the present uses on the city
010llled property, Century Rock Products Company is conducting a quarry
operation; there is a transmission exchange; a refueling station for
diesel tank trucks, a wood yard and also a manufacturing plant for
coping around pools, cement block, slump stone, etc.
If the M-l-l/2 would allow an undesirable type of development, it
could result in adversely affecting the city's plans for the redev-
elopment of the Peck Road property. He suggested that the commission
authorize the Director of Public Works and the Planning Secretary to
attend the public hearing to find out as much as possible what the
plans are for the use of this property.
Moved by Commissioner Forman, seconded by Commissioner Norton and
carried to recommend that the Director of Public Works and the Plan-
ning Secretary attend the public hearing on this matter before the
Regional Planning Commission.
Mr. Kelly, 725 Callita Street, asked about the status of Annexation
No. 14.
The Chairman explained that a resolution was adppted to set up a pub-
lic hearing on the matter on July 12, 1960.
James O. Warner, 1225 Lovell Street, addressed the commission on the
subject of the master plan. He stated that before the city spends
$50,000.00 or $60,000.00 of the taxpayers money that there should be
some delineation of what will be included in the establishment of a
master plan. He believed that the commission is very familiar with
every foot of this city; he felt that the letter from the five groups
characterized the city as a fine residential community which it is in
a general sense; but it is not so fine as they would lead one to
believe,' if certain areas are taken into consideration. The homes are
old and run down; it is not realistic that R-l zoning should be
maintained in suc~ areas.
The peopl:e who signed this letter seem to be interested only in zon-
ing aspects of a master plan; he did not believe there is any neces.-
sity of delaying major improvements for the establishment of a master
plan, which he understood includes drainage, sewage, transportation, con-
servation, recreation, etc.
Commissioner Michler expressed appreciation for Mr. Warner's remarks.
There being no further business to come before the Planning Commission
the meeting was adjourned.
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L. M. TALLEY
Planning Secretary
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