HomeMy WebLinkAboutMAY 22, 1962
j~
. "
ROLL CALL
MINUTES
CODE CHANGE
R-3 Parking
Requirements
.
.
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA
REGUlAR MEETING
May 22, 1962
The Planning Commission,of the City of Arcadia, California, met in regu-
lar session on May 22, 1962, at 8:00 o'clock P.M., with Chairman Golisch
presiding.
PRESENT:
Commissioners Ferguson, Forman, Michler, Rutherford
and Golisch
ABSENT:
Commissioners Acker and Norton
OTHERS PRESENT: City Councilman Jesse Balser
City Attorney James A. Nicklin
Assistant City Engineer Frank Forbes
Planning Director William Phelps and
Planning Technician Robert W. Warrilow
The minutes of the meeting of May 8, 1962 were approved as written and
mailed.
This is the continuation of the public hearing initiated by the Planning
Commission and which had been referred to the staff for further study
and report.
Acting Secretary Robert Warrilow presented the summary of the report
as follows: (See complete report filed with files) Nine point
recommendations follow:
1. Rescind the all night parking ban "as provided for in Section
11.8 of the Uniform Traffic Ordinance" for at least one year.
(Refer to City Attorney).
2. Restrict parking of commercial vehicles on any street between
the hours of 1:00 a.m. to 6:00 &.m., except for pick ups and
deliveries. (Refer to City Attorney).
3. Restrict parking of passenger vehicles in same location for more
than 24 hours. (Refer to Ci~y Attorney).
4. Require two ~2) off-street parking spaces for every dwelling
unit. (Refer to Planning Commission).
5. Require five (5) foot sidewalks to be installed in all R-2
and R-3 zones. (Refer to Engineering and Planning Commission).
6. Develop a program for sidewalk installation in front of existing,
developed properties in R~3 zones. (Refer to staff).
7. Provide street lighting according to present standards in all
R-3 zones. (Refer to staff).
8. Develop a program for the elimination of the existing off-street
parking deficiencies in the R-3 areas. (Refer to staff).
9. Instruct the staff to report back to the Council in February
of 1963 on the then status of the problem.
May 22, 1962
Page One
.
.
.
The Planning Director exhibited an area map showing the locations of
the violations of the all night parking as a result of the attempt
of the Police Department to enforce off street parking. The Director
stated that the report was made December 11, 1961, and from the dis-
tribution of the off street parking violations it was evident that
violations occurred throughout the city, but that there were certain
areas where it was heaviest, especially betwep.n Huntington Drive, Duarte
Road, Santa Anita Ave., and Second Ave; also west of Baldwin Ave. to
Sunset, south of Huntington Dr. in the R-3 zone. At this time there
were 1791 violations for one evening. In October 1961 the entire city
was surveyed and there were but 1154 violations, in 1960 a survey was
also made and there were but 700. The increase substantiates the fact
that there is an on street-off street parking problem within the city.
This problem is not static but is growing. The City Manager's office
had attempted to' .keep a record of all calls from the public at the
time the enforcement was considered. In general the 'reasons given were (1)
Arcadia does not have an adequate transportation system, therefore there
are more automobiles within the city; (2) Arcadia seems to have relaxed
parking requirements in apartments building, therefore, a lot of people
will park on the street; (3) there is insufficient public and private
off street parking facilities within the city.
The City Manager through this study suggested to the City Council a
nine point program to resolve the entire problem, This program has been
set forth in the staff' report. The most important item is the institut-
ing of the procedure to change ,the parking requirements in the R-3 zone
which will relieve the parking situation so far as new construction is
concerned. Then perhaps additional study would need be made in areas
not covered under these proceedings. There have been responses through
the Department dealing with the property owners themselves in the exist-
ing land w~ich is yet to be developed to the R-3 standards. Some R-3
property is now developed with but a single-family residence. These peo-
ple seem to feel that by raising the number of spaces required, the
number of units allowed on the lot would be difficult to design, and
this with the fact that they would not be able to sell the lot for the
price necessary. This seems to be a real problem. It is felt that in
the long run these properties would be developed as units and would
increase in value. It was the consensus that the past upgrading of
the parking restrictions and other changes have kept the value of the
property at its high value.
Based on the above reasons the staff has recommended to the Commission
that such changes be made to the Code and that the recommendation be
forwarded to the City Council.
Discussion followed. One point brought up was whether or not a check
had been made at the time of the survey if the cars on the street had
a place to be parked. In some cases there was adequate parking off
street when the check was made. In some areas a deficiency was found
if all of the cars were to be parked off street. In 1954 the ratio of
cars was 1-1/4 per family, but the increase now was over 2 carS per
family.
CommIssioner'Forman stated that the area bounded by Alta St., Santa
Anita and Second Avenues contain only 12% developed with multiple
dwellings. This area is south. of Huntington Drive, the balance being
developed with single-family residences. In this area where there are
many houses with but a single garage and with the developed portion
having I, 1-1/4, or 1-1/2 spaces per dwelling unit there was a deficiency.
May 22, 1962
Page Two
lII"'"
..
.
.
.'
The Chairman requested any persons having any further statements to
make for or against the change of parking spaces to so state.
Mr, Ralph Burston, 515 Fairview Ave., Arcadia, who had previously
expressed his views, stated in his opinion the ordinance should not
be changed until the all night parking ordinance had been enforced.
Be felt that there were still many people who would park on the street
rather than go to the rear of the apartment to park in a garage or
carport. They had a feeling of safety in so doing, as well as eliminat-
ing the walking.
Each Commissioner expressed himself.
The Planning Director stated that some of the areas were just now in
the period of development and the high stan~ard would be superior to
a lower type and that any action to increase the type of development
should be made at this time.
It was mentioned that Los Angeles County was considering changing
the parking requirements in the residential areas as well as in the
apartment zones. They are moving forward in their planning stages at
the'present time.
Hr. Burston stated that since the last meeting he had talked with several
property owners along Baldwin Ave. One owner had nine spaces which was
sufficient for her apartment. Ber neighbors did not have ample parking
and therefore used the street in front of her property, thereby depriv-
ing guests coming to her property from parking. She is also deprived
of the municipal services because of the cars being parked in the street
when the sweeper is in the area. Be felt that the City was reluctant
to enforce the law that would prohibit such parking. If the city were
to require two spaces for every apartment it should also be tied with
an ordinance prohibiting all night parking thereby equalizing the spaces
provided in the street for the use of the property abutting ,it.
_ __ J __ ._. .. ,. ." _ .
HEARING CLOSED Moved by Commissioner 'Rutherford; seconded 'by Commissioner Ferguson, and
unanimously carried that the public hearing be closed.
The chairman stated that in his opinion this was a move forward in the
field of planning. Commissioner Michler was not opposed to the two
parking spaces, but felt that the opinions stated as to the enforcement
of the all night street parking was good. He would be reluctant to go
along with the additional parking space if the off street parking were
not enforced, and they should be tied together. There should be a
prohibition of 24 hour parking. The chairman stated that there was only
a temporary suspension of the ordinance pending the study, and then other
steps would be taken to relieve the situation.
The City Attorney advised there was not an all night parking ban on
record. The ordinance is for continued parking. This was not systemma-
tically enforced while it was in effect, but when attempts were made
a cry was that there was no place to park. This then was studied and
the proceedings now'before the Commission is a result of this survey. He
felt that the City could require six parking spaces and there would still
be cars in the street unless there is an all night parking ban enforced.
Commissioner Rutherford felt this request for study had come from the
City Council and that they had in mind an all night parking ban when the
action by the Commission had been completed.
Commissioner Forman stated that several comments had been made' about the
area of California, Bonita, Santa Anita Avenue, etc. with the small lots.
He felt that with the report as given it presented a somewhat different
picture, that with the small lots it was going to create a problem for
the developer unless several lots were combined. He had been opposed to
a blanket requirement for all R-3 property, but he now felt' there were
ways to solve the small lot problem. With Pasadena and Alhambra having
similar problems and working toward a solution this too could be done
in Arcadia. May 22, 1962
Page Three
~
..
..
M~I~
ZONE CHANGE
Live Oak -
Louise Ave.
.
.
Moved by Commissioner Rutherford, seconded by Commissioner Michler that
the parking requirements 'for' all R-3 (multIple dwelling) properties
be increased to two spaces per dwelling unit instead of the one and
one-half as now existing, and that one of the two spaces should be
covered with a garage or carport.
Said motion was carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Forman, Michler, Rutherford
and Golisch.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Acker and Norton
The Planning Commission held a public hearing on proceedings instituted
under Resolution No. 445. These proceedings were to consider the re-
classification from Zones R-3 and R-2 to some more restrictive zone
(R) or (R-l) or some less restrictive zone - C, C-l, C-2, C-3, CM, or
M-l on properties located at 2637, 2633, 2627, 2734, 2626, 2620 Louise
Ave., and 55, 67, Ill, 115, 131 and 137 Live Oak Avenue.
The Acting Secretary summarized the staff report as follows:
The entire area was reviewed as to the application and the public hearings
held, together with the meetings of the zoning committee and the times
these matters were before the Planning Commission and the City Council.
In order to permit the transition from residential use to commercial use
it is recommended that the following conditions of approval be approved:
1. The change of zone from R-3--to CO-D on the lots on Louise Ave,
subject to deed restrictions shall not become effective until such time as
the deed restrictions have been removed and evidence of this removal
submitted to the Planning Commission. These lots are 8, 9, 19 and 20
of Tract No. 11438.
2. The change of zone from R-3 to R-l shall be' for the entire property
known as 55 and 67 Live Oak Ave. At such time as a subdivision map
is submitted and approved for the division of these lots into single-
family homesites the frontage of these two properties to a depth of
about 150 feet shall be zoned CO-D without further hearings and the
D regulations, set forth in this report shall apply to the subject
properties.
The restrictions to be made applicable to the subject properties under
Zone D shall be as follows:
1. Construct a concrete block wall along the north line of lots 9 and
19 of Tract No. 11438 and along the zoning district line, dividing Zone
CO-D from R-l on the subject property described as the east 240 feet
of lot 65 (55 and 67 Live Oak Avenue),. The same type wall shall be
constructed on the north property line of the lot at the northeast corner
of Greenfield and Live Oak Avenues, and on the north line of Lot 2,
Tract No. 12915 at the northwest corner of Greenfield Ave, and Live
Oak Ave. The height of said walls shall be reduced to 4 feet as they
, extend into the required front yard of the pro~rties on Greenfield,
Louise and the new street to be constructed.
,
2. All commercial buildings shall face Live Oak Avenue and shall be on
building sites oriented from Live Oak Avenue northerly to the concrete
block wall.
May 22, 1962
Page Four
..
.
.
3. No entrances to buildings from side streets sh~ll be permitted more
than ten feet from the front building line.
4. Vehicular access to the subject properties shall be from the side
streets rather than from Live Oak Avenue.
5. All billboards shall be prohibited on the subject properties.
6. All floodlighting shall be directed away from residential properties.
7. The height of all buildings constructed on the subject property
shall be limited to one-story not to exceed 16 feet.
8. The use of all property to be Zone CO shall be limited to office use.
9. A plot plan showing the proposed development of the subject proper-
ties shall be submitted and approved by the Planning Couunission prior
to the issuance of any building permits.
10. The Planning Commission or City Council may modify any of the fore-
going conditions if such modification will not adversely affect property
or improvements in the vicinity and if such modification will equally
accomplish substantially the same results as will adherence to the
foregoing conditions.
The Planning Director exhibited a map of the area showing the present
zoning and the proposed zoning. He explained the existing land use
and the proposed land use. Most of the property to the north of Live
Oak and on the corner of Greenfield Ave. and Live Oak and the area to
the east with the golf course, nursery and service station. The plans
had been presented to the Planning Couunission. City Council and had
been before neighborhood groups of the area. There is a substantial
difference in the type -of commercial now in 'existence on the south
side of ~ive Oak and those which the staff believes should come into
existence on the north side.
The Chairman announced that this was the time and place for hearing on
said change of zone and requested those in favor to present their views.
One couununication had been received from W. H. Rowland, 2634 Louise
Ave. opposing CO zoning. He had previously requested C-2 which was
denied.
Dr. A. J. Andreoli, 2600 Louise Ave. was speaking for himself and on
benalf of'the people who are most concerned who live on Louise Ave. He
stated that these people had expressed confidence and had complimented
the Planning Staff and were willing to give their support to the present
plans. He would like to emphasize the fact that because of the unique
character of the plots of land and the lack of uniformity with the two
rather deep lots which back up to the residential area these lots have
not been considered as thoroughly in any other study. The present plans
would prevent land locking property. It has all the attributes of good
planning, and would solve most of the problems in the area. He felt
that it would require no further deli'beration, because if was the group's
opinion that a better plan could not be devised. They would cooperate
with the staff or whosoever would develop the property to obtain the
additional land needed for the subdivision, and to assist in the lifting
of the deed restrictions. He felt that one of the best factors in the
plan is that there would be a stablization of the area and would represent
a well planned part of the community. He was speaking for approximately
25 families.
May 22, 1962
Page Five
,..
"
.
.
"
Hr. R. H. Hamilton, a relative of F. A. Champagn, owner of the property
at 55 E. Live Oak stated that the residential aspects of the City of
Arcadia must be protected but he felt that with the development of
the subdivision, it would create another street opening on to Live Oak
Ave. He felt that too many streets came into Live Oak now as Live Oak
is a major street. The street would have to cut through CO-D property
to get to the R-l proposed to the rear. He felt that the cul de sac
should be approached from a street part way north on Louise Ave. so that
there will be no more left-hand turns off Live Oak Ave. This street
would serve not more than six or seven lots to the rear of the CO-D
property. In development of any business property there will be parking
required and until such time as the parking needs are determined a wall
at 150 ft. distance back from Live Oak Ave. would be difficult and still
have sufficient parking for the development of the commercial office
buildings. After the street is allowed there would be a lot 80 I x 150 I
and a doctor's office could not front on this property with proper
parking. He was not talking about legal parking, but proper parking.
He brought up the present use of Live Oak Ave. It had been determined
that a buffer was needed between residential and business property. The
already developed R-l along Live Oak Ave. does 'not have the proper buffer
for property that is used for business. He felt that it was unusual that
a gas station on each of the corners of Second Ave, and Santa Anita Ave,
the Pie King and the doughnut shop, nursery, golf course, two medical
buildings should all get some type of variance of zoning against the
R-l and R-2, which did not protect the residential property to the rear
and a few lots selected on Live Oak that could not develop as C-l as the
others had done, without the buffer as above stated. He felt there was
inconsistency. The present zoning was not right,but also the proposed
use was not right. Further study should be made towsrd the proposed
R-l and the street proposed.
Mr. Frank Rush, 67 E. Live Oak Ave. concurred with Mr. Hamilton, and that
a business district should be allowed from one gas station to the other.
Dr: Andreoli requested permission to clarify a matter brought up by Hr.
Hamilton. The two medicalb\!Udings on Live Oak were tJ./o examples of the
parking needs and how well they had been handled. The parking was more
than adequate and this had been accomplished on a very shallow property.
Tne people on the northwest corner of Greenfield Ave. and Live Oak Ave.
have submitted a plan and it was approved to enlarge their offices
and, the parking was adequate. One of the neighbors working in an archi-
tect's office had devised some plot plans to see if the requested zoning
would work to make the land financially worth the type of development
proposed. He felt that the most feasible layout and the combined devel-
opment with the R-I to C-O frontage would ultimately yield dollar value
a great deal more than simply having a CO, C-l, or C-2 frontage with
a plot of landlocked land to the rear with the problem of accessibility.
No one else desired to speak in favor of the proposed zoning.
The Chairman then requested those..opposed to state their findings.
Hr. E. Divon, 2626 Louise Ave. read from the Harch 19th report as to the
land use and with the recommendation of a subdivision with access to
Live Oak Ave. It seemed to him that the 'report had some inconsistencies
in so far as acce~s to lotS_from Live Oak Ave. was concerned.
Mr. Harry Simon, l6l8-N.Las Palmas, Los 'Angeles, representing Dr.
Herrman of 115 E. Live Oak'Ave. stated there was no doubt that the
zoning on Live Oak Ave. should be changed. The only questLon was what
should the nature of the change be, Two points of view could be sustained:
(1) tne present need, and (2) what will the need be in 5 to 10 years.
The staff has objected to-C-2 on the north side of Live Oak Ave. so that
there would not be too much competition, and also that under C-2 it could
being in some uses not compatible to the uses on the south side of the
May 22, 1962
Page Six
,
PUBLIC HEARING
CLOSED
MOTION
ZONE VARiANCE
53(j'W. tas-
Tunas Drive
.
.
street. He felt that the most beneficial use of this property from the
west side of Second Ave. to the east side of Greenfield Ave. would be to
keep the present C-2 zoning with the existing R-3 at the west end of the
area, and then change the balance of the area to C-l with the alley all
the way through to Greenfield Ave. Traffic then would not have to use
Live Oak to make a left turn and would also provide the buffer under dis-
cussion. The required block wall would buffer off the commercial area.
Then proceeding west on Live Oak it would seem that the use there could
be either the C-l or the CoO as proposed, all with the "0" overlay. He
also felt that the requirement for a one-story building should not be
recommended. Even though a developer would bu(ld a single-story at this
time, the foundation and structural work should be such tbat in the future
a second story could be added. The footings would allow the additional
story.
Moved by Commissioner Forman, 'seconded' by Comm(ssioner Rutherford and
unanimously carried that the public hearing be closed.
The Commissioners requested Mr. Forbes, Assistant City Engineer, to brief
them on any improvements to be made to Live Oak in the future. He stated
that restriping was to be made and left-turn bays painted at the various
streets leading off to the north. This should help with the traffic
problem. No additional signals were proposed at this time.
Discussion ensued.. It was the general consensus that the plans as out-
lined would be very compatible and would tie in with the residential
property to the'north. This would also solve the problem'of the land-
locked property. The suggestion was made that the subdivision be con-
sidered before the C-O zoning on Live Oak so that the improvements would
be in before any consideration was made for construction of buildings
on the two lots facing the new street and Live Oak Ave.
The Planning Director'stated that the type of development proposed is one
that would be desired; that if such development did not occur witb~n a
teasonable length of time it may then show that, the plan may have been at
fault, because of some .inadequate plsns. Should this occur a re-evalua-
tion should be made. The new street does not have to come off Live Oak
Ave. if another access can be procured.
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by'Commissioner Forman, that
the zone change from R-3 and R-2 to some more restrictive zone, or to same
less restrictive zone, as outlined in the staff report on properties
located on the north side of Live Oak Ave, from Louise Ave. to about 400
feet west of Second Avenue, be recommended for approval, subject to the
conditions set forth in the staff report hereinabove set forth.
Said motion was carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Forman, Michler, Rutherford
and Golisch.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Acker and Norton.
publlc hearing was held' on the application of Mrs. Dorothy Stevens for
a zone variance to permit 'the continued use of the property at 530 West
LaS Tunas Drive as a children I s day nursery.
the Planning Director presented an area map and designated the property
May 22, 1962
Page Seven
PUBLIC HEARING
CLOSED
MarrON
.
.
under consideration.
The Acting Secretary read the staff report summarized as follows:
The applicant has applied four different times for a variance and each
time has received approval. In all of the previous actions the City
Council sustained the Planning Commission's recommendations.
Due to the locati on of the proposed use, on the periphery of a residential
area and next to a neighborhood shopping center, the Planning Department
recommends that the Planning Commission approve the variance application
as submitted. A time period is not recommended because the facility
appears to be located in the proper place for the present and foresee-
able future. It is also the staff's understanding that the State law
provides a limitation as to the maximum number of children permitted.
However, no limitation is suggested.
The Chairman announced that this was the time and place for hearing of
said application and called for those in favor to present their views.
No one in the audience desired to be heard either in favor of or against
said application.
The Planning Director stated that this was a good location for such
operation as it would act as a buffer from the commercial on the west
to the residential properties on the east and south.
The City Attorney stated to his knowledge there had been no complaints
in the neighborhood and while a time limit has not been imposed it would
be well perhaps to extend the time for an additional five year period
so that if changes occurred in the area further consideration could be
given at that time, also the state controls th'e number of children to
be cared ~or so that the pres~nt regulation could be imposed.
No one else desiring to be heard, it was moved by COmmissioner Michler
seconded by Commissioner Ferguson, and unanimously carried that the
public hearing be closed.
Discussion followed. This is the same property formerly operated by
Mrs. 10 Guidice; that Mrs. Lo Guidice and Mrs, Stevens are one and the
same person. If this operation were to become a nuisance the Commission
could review this if the time limit were imposed rather than making it a
permanent variance.
,~oved by Commissioner Forman, seconded by Commissioner Rutherford
that tne application of Mrs. Dorothy M. Stevens for a zone variance
to permit the continued use of the property at 530 West Las Tunas Drive
as a children's day nursery be recommended for approval with a five
year limitation and a further limitation of twenty children, and subject
to the staff report.
Said motion was carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Forman, Michler, Rutherford
and Golisch
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Acker and Norton
May 22, 1962
Page Eight
ZONE VARIANCE
410-418 West
Huntington Dr.
.
.
The Planning Commission held a public hearing on the application of
Robert Stevens for a zone variance and/or special use permit to
allow the construction and operation of a convalescent home at 410-418
West Huntington Drive.
The Planning Director exhibited a map and outlined the area under
conSideration.
The Acting Secretary presented the staff report setting forth much of
the information contained in the application with the land use of surround-
ing areas. A comparative table showing the characteristics of the
three facilities now approved within the city was given showing thst
it is apparent that this facility proposes to exceed the minimum off
street parking requirements set up in the code but would provide less
than the amount required by the other two.
From the planning viewpoint this location seems to be appropriate for
this type of use. It is near the hospital and church and also in the
same area as the existing convalescent home.
If' the Planning Commission approves this request the following conditions
of approval are suggested:
1. That the use of the building be so restricted that no mental
patients, alcholics or contagious disease cases be admitted and kept.
2. That the applicants record an irrevocable offer of dedication for
30 feet across the rear of the property for an easement for alley
purposes.
3. That final plans be submitted and approved by the Planning Commission
prior to the issuance of a building permit.
4. That grading and drainage plans be submitted and approved by the
Department of Public Works prior to issuance of a building permit.
5. That water services shall meet with the standards set up in the
Uniform Plumbing Code.
6. That all parking lot illumination shall meet with the approval of
the Department of Public Works.
The Chairman announced that this was the time and place for the hearing
on said application and requested those in favor to present their case,
There were no communications received.
The elevations and plans of the building were exhibited and examined.
Mr. Robert Stevens, 539 Cloverly Drive, with offices at 2304 Huntington
Drive, San Marino, advised that he was the applicant and that he had with
him his architect who was familiar with the project and would be in a
position to answer any questions the Commission may have.
Mr. Stevens stated that the sole purpose of the construction was for pa-
tients from hospitals, such as the -Methodist, etc.. who needed post oper-
ative care but could not get the same in a residence. There would be
nursing service, a doctor on call, 'and all facilities necessary for
their care. This license for this type of construction had to come through
the State Department .of Health and Welfare. He also stated that this was
a c-o zone andthis type of use was not permitted in any zone. The
property under consideration has considerable landscaping which they would
try to save if possible, especially the large trees. They had provided
May 22, 1962
Page Nine
.
.
more than required parking and this is in an area near the hospital and
also near the convalescent hotlle established some time ago. In his
opinion, this was a better use for the property than to construct R-3
units. There would be no additional parking problem such as R-3 areas
present and it would hsve a quiet, refined atmosphere. He felt the use was
very compatible to the area. It was brought out that the convalescent home
being constructed on Baldwin Ave. was for elderly people and would be a
hotlle for them. It was the intent of the applicant to maintain this stru-
cture on a post-operative care basis for all ages. He was agreeable to
all the conditions imposed in the staff report.
Mr. Jerry Hansen, Architect and Designer, stated he had worked closely
with the government agencies in meeting their standards. He felt that
in this area there was a need for such services. San Marino had none, and
there were but four or five in the surrounding aress.
Commissioner Forman asked the number of beds recommended for this type of
facility. The State recommended three to every 1000 persons, snd about
4 or 5 months sgo the State took an exact count .or survey and the rstio
was 3 to each 1000.
No one else desired to be heard.
Commissioner Forman ststed that from what he had heard, from an economic
standpoint he questioned the advisibility of permitting more to cotlle into
Arcadia. He had heard that a designer of convalescent homes had gone
east in an effort, to build there as there was an over amount in California.
He felt that people promoting such developments were doing it to make
money and the Commission should take a further study to determine whether
the growth of the City would determine the need for another such develop-
ment. He felt some attempt should be made to d~termine what the ideal is
for this type of community. Mr. Hansen stated that there is a booklet
published by the State setting forth the number of such institutions and
and the number of persons that could be accommodated. There were 34,000
beds in 1961 and there was a need of another 14,000. Of the existing
facUities 21% were over 40 beds, which is needed to operate such a
facility on a paying basis. . He claimed it was impractical today to build
such a building with less than 50 beds. He felt that the majority of
existing facilities were on their way out because of their size and number
of persons that could be accommodated.
There were a number in Los Angeles listed in the State report that were
actually condemned, so that a need'did exist. There will be many people
who have no place to go. So far as the proximity to the local hospital
this would ,be on a 50-50 basis. There would be doctors who would find it
convenient to visit their patients - long term patients - if they were
locate.d near any place they visit daily. So far as disturbance to a
neighborhood, there would be less than with an R-3 development with swimm-
ing pool, etc. One could not find a more desirable buffer than this type
of use. Usually patients desire a little activity around such a home, so
that the activity of the race track would not hinder, but would not be so
deSirable for R-3 use.
The effect of the condemned places in Los Angeles do not affect this area.
The chief concern of this Planning Commission isU there is a need
for such inUthis locality. The figures presented were of a town more the
size of Arcadia and hospital facilities maintained mere would be the basis
for determining the deciSion. It was upon those factors that the first
one was allowed. Many of the builders that went into this type of con-
May 22, 1962
Page Ten
"
.
.
construction are now moving out of this area- this is not a business of
building and selling convalescent homes ,for a profit or building for
someone else. This is a private venture. Soem have ceased to exist in
several cases because the business from their viewpoint is not as
lucrative as it was. The Bureau of Hospitals practically makes it
impossible for some of these people to continue on the basis that they
have been. Regulations now govern convalescent hospitals as well as
general hospitals. It will take some time even after the variance is
granted to get the approval through the state departments. Sometimes it
takes dozens of approvals before it is final.
Mr. Stevens did make a survey of the facilities in this area that were
available. San Marino has none. Monrovia had 1, Duarte has 1; South
Pasadena has 1; In the area through which Huntington Drive passes this
would be justified and Mr. Hansen has the whole area of San Gabriel
spotted so that the facilities can be shown. This area is located within
the least serviced in the valley.
Commissioner Ferguson thought it important to consider the definition
of the convalescent home being post operative rather than for senior
citizens actually living there permanently.
Commissioner Forman felt that there should not be a use allowed in this
vicinity that would create a problem for the two that exist or for
themselves in the future, depending upon what. the circumstances would
be. This should be checked into prior to the next Planning Commission
meeting.
The Cliairman stated that he personally felt that it was up to the
applicant to recognize in their own way the economic factor and that
he would look upon it as a matter of zoning - something that is desir~
able in this particular location or not desirable. He felt the Commi-
ssion should not judge the economic factor.
HEARING CLOSED Moved by Commissioner Michler, seconded by Commissioner Ferguson that
the public hearing be closed.
Said motion was carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Michler, Rutherford and Golisch.
NOES: Commissioner Forman
ABSENT: Commissioners Acker and Norton
The Chairman stated that he felt that a very fine explanation of the
variance had been presented. From the appearance of the plot plan it
would be a fine building. but there is some question as to whether this
is an area ~o be developed ~nto this type of ~se.
The Planning Director stated that one of the developers had made a
study of the area. His economic analysis along this street - Huntington
Drive - showed it was not desirable for offices, and not particularly
desirable for apartments, being so close to the heavy traffic from the
race track., From the size of the lot it could be cut into single-family
lots, or included with the apartments to the rear. This is a very
desirable type of unit for the property.
May 22. 1962
Page Eleven
MOTION
LOT SPLIT
NO. 367
MOTION
RESOLUTION
NO. 446
MOTION
MOTION
.
.
Moved by Commissioner Forman, seconded by Commissioner Rutherford that
the matter be referred to the Zoning Committee and referred back to the
Commission at the regular meeting of June 12.
Said motion was carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Forman, Michler and Rutherford
NOES: Commissioner Golisch
ABSENT: Commissioners Acker and Norton
The Planning Commission considered ~ot Split No. 367 - Jacob Zook, et.al.
1011 South Fourth Ave. The rear part of this lot is proposed to be sold
to the property at 315 Leland Way. This matter had been referred to
Commissioners Ferguson, Michler and Forman. ,.
The Acting Secretary read the staff report that if the split is approved
a final map should be required; a covenant tha~ no structures will be
constructed within the utility easement right of way.
The Planning Department stated that there is no doubt that the newly
created lot on Leland Way could use the additional five feet, but if this
lot split were granted there would be little sense of having future
subdivisions maintain a straight or even rear lot line boundary. The
Department recommended that the lot split be denied.
CommisSioner Ferguson stated that he had viewed
of the property owners along' Fourth Avenue were
to the rear lot lines on Leland Way it would be
present conditions he would recommend denial of
the property and if all
to convey the five feet
desirable but under the
the reques t.
Moved by CommiSSioner Forman, seconded by Commissioner Rutherford, and
unanimously carried that Lot Split No. 367 - Jacob Zook, et.al. 1011
South Fourth Avenue be denied.
The City Attorney requested permission to present his matters at this time
due to the fact he had to leave the meeting because of the death of his
mother-in-law. The Commission extended sympathy' and condolances to Mr.
and Mrs. Nicklin in their bereavement.
The City Attorney presented resolution No. 446 entitled:
"A RESOLUTION OF TIlE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF TIlE
CITY OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THE AMENDMENT
OF SECTION 9255.2.8 OF THE ARCADIA MUNICIPAL CODE; CON-
CERNING REQUIRED PARKING SPACES IN ZONE R-3.
Moved by Commissioner Freguson, seconded by Commissioner Forman and
unanimously csrried that the reading of the full body of the resolution
be waived.
Moved by Commissioner Michler" seconded by Commissioner Rutherford that
resolution No. 446 be adopted.
Said motion was carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Forman, Michler, Rutherford and Golisch.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Acker and Rutherford
May 22, 1962
Page Twelve
.'
RESOLUTION
NO. 447
MOTION
MOTION
RESOLUTION
NO. 448
MOTION
MOTION
RESOLUTION
NO. 449
MOTION
MOTION
.
.
The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 447, entitled:
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE REQUEST FOR
MODIFICATION OF THE REAR YARD SET!lACKREQUIREMENTS FOR
REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1833 EL VISTA CIRCLE IN SAID CITY.
Moved by. Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner Forman, and
unanimously carried that the reading of the full body of Resolution No.
447 be waived.
Moved by Commissioner Forman, seconded by Commissioner Rutherford that
Resolution No. 447 be adopted.
Said motion was carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Forman, Michler, Rutherford and Golisch.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Acker and Norton
The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 448, entitled:
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE GITY OF
ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THE DENIAL OF AN APPLICATION
FOR CHANGE OF ZONE FROM ZONE R-3 TO ZONE C-2 ON PROPERTY ON
THE NORTH SIDE OF DUARTE ROAD WEST OF BALDWIN AVENUE IN SAID CITY.
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner Rutherford, and
unanimously carried that the reading of the full body of Resolution No.
448 be waived,
Moved by Commissioner Forman, seconded by Commissioner Ferguson that
Resolution No. 448 'be adopted.
Said motion was carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Forman, Michler, Norton, Rutherford
and Gol1sch
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Acker and Norton
The City Attorney presented Resolution No. 449, entitled:
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THE GRANTING OF A
ZONE VARIANCE FOR A DAY NURSERY AT 530 WEST LAS TUNAS
DRIVE IN SAID CITY.
- . - ~ ..-
Moved by Commissioner Michler, seconded by Commissioner Ferguson, and
unanimously carried that the reading of the full body of said resolution
be waived.
Moved by Commissioner Forman, seconded by Commissioner Rutherford that
Resolution No. 449 be adopted.
Said motion was carried on the following roll call vote:
May 22, 1962
Page Thirteen
"
LOT SPLIT
NO. 368
MOTION
TRACT NO.
22199
.
.
AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Forman, Michler, Rutherford
and Golisch
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner.s Acker and Norton
The Planning Commission considered Lot Split No. 368 ~ George M. Gilbert
51 Palm Drive, which had been referred to Commissioners Ferguson,
Michler and Forman.
The Acting Secretary presented the staff report. If the lot split
were approved the following requirements should be imposed:
1. File a final map
2. Provide a sewer lateral to parcel 2 or
deposit made to assure connection
3. Recreation fee of $25.00
4. Water services to comply with the Uniform Plumbing Code
5. File a coyenant restricting the use of the land as a
building site until access to a public street is obtained
6. Remove all structures from Parcel 2
7. Dedicate the northerly 1 ft. of parcel 2 to the City in
fee to control access to a possible new street
The Planning Department ,recommended that the lot split be denied.
Commissioner Michler had checked the area and if this split were approved
it would create a landlocked parcel of land. If there was a possibility
of starting a subdivision he might be in favor but until a tentative
tract was filed showing the division of the other lots, he was not in
favor of this split.
Discussion ensued. Two or three attempts have been made to subdivide
the property without too much success. Mr. Gilbert has a buyer for
the front parcel with the residence and he wants to retain the rear
p()rtion.
Moved by Commissioner Forman, seconded by Commissioner Ferguson, and
unanimously carried that lot split No. 368 be denied.
The Planning CommiSSion considered Tentative map of Tract No. 22199,
located approximately 884 feet north of Camino Real on the east side
of First Avenue (1332 and 1406 S. First Avenue) creating 8 lots.
The Acting Secretary presented the staff report to the effect that all of
the lots appear t~ meet the requirements of the subdivision ordinance and
exceed the 7500 sq. ft, area. All proposed lots are 75 ft. wide except
lots 4 and 5 which meet this requirement at the 25 ft. front yard line.
Lots 4 and 5 become key lots, and this type of arrangment usually
causes the back yard with pools. etc. to be located within 3 feet of
the house or living area of the adjoining lot. This is generally not
beneficial to eitner property, The Department feels that this type of
arrangement should be discouraged. It is suggested that the Commission
adopt a-poliCY to guide developers in their lot arrangement, Such a
policy statement could be as follows:
"Any proposed subdivision with a cuI de sac street shall terminate
with' a lot having a common rear line with the existing lot on
the ~eveloped existing street or have sufficient area to permit
open space of at least 25 feet from the location of the structure
to the rear line of the lot adjoining.
May 22, 1962
Page Fourteen
..
.
.
"
If the Commission approves this subdivision, the following conditions
should be imposed:
1. A revised tentative may be submitted showing a lot arrangement
complying with the Commission's policy with regards to key lots.
2. Dedicate the proposed street at 60 ft. instead of the 50 ft.
plus 5 ft. planting easement as shown.
3. Remove all buildings or relocate those meeting the building
code to comply with the yard requirements of the new lots.
4. Remove all trees from the street right of way
5. Provide all necessary utility easements at the rear property lines
6. Install all street improvements as required by the subdivision
ordinance in accordance with plans and to grades satisfactory
to the Department of Public Works
7. Pay the following fees and deposits:
"
2 steel pole street lights @ $115.00 $230.00
12 street trees @ 8.50 102.00
2 street name signs @ 35.00 70.00
8 lots recreation fee @ 25.00 200 . 00
Total $602.00
The Planning Director exhibited the map and outlined the boundaries
showing the proposed location of structures to be erected. It was
felt that some of the lots should be realigned so that the rear yards
of Some of the lots on Greenfield Ave. would back up to the rear
yards on the new street. He felt that a policy statement should be
considered as outlined in the report.
Discussion followed.
It was the consenSuS that the map should be presented to the subdivision
committee and the developer to see if the lot lines on several of the
lots could be realigned to make a better plan.
The developer, Mr. James Cecka, was present and stated that he had
not seen the proposed realignment of the lots and that one of the
problems was that some of the lots on Greenfield were permitted through
lot splits rather than a subdiviSion. This created Some of the jogs
appearing on the map. This prevented a uniform line. He was in favor
of resubmitting it to the subdivision committee, and if this did develop
it might be necessary to have the commission consider allowing a
deviation of the setback line. This would be necessary if the lots were
rearranged as the front would be rather narrow.
MOTION
Moved by Commissioner Forman, seconded by Commissioner Rutherford and
unanimously carried that Tract No. 22199 be referred back to the
subdivision committee and developer to work out a realignment of the
lots and to report back to the Planning Commission at its meeting of
June l~ 1962.
The Planning Commission considered the final map of Tract No. 27027
located at the' southeast corner of Foothill Boulevard and Burnell Oaks
continaing 9 lots, The staff report was presented, together with a
map of the tract. This map substantially conforms with the approved
tentative map and is recommended for approval.
TRACT No.
27037
May 22, 1962
Page Fifteen
."
.'
MOTION
PUBLIC PARTI-
CIPATION
REPORTS
R-3 PARKING
ADJOURNMENT
.
.
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner Forman, and
unanimously carried that final map of Tract No. 27037 be recommended
for final approval, subject to the following conditions:
1. Rear line easements to be granted for overhead utilities
2. All street dediauions shall be improved as required by
the subdivision ordinance according to plans and to
grades satisfactory to the Director of Public Works
3. Pay the following fees and deposits:
3 steel street light poles
2 street name signs
16 street trees
9 lots recreation fee
@
@
@
@
$115.00
35.00
8.50
25.00
$345.00
70.00
136.00
225.00
$ 776.00
4. Dedicate 1 foot lot at the east end of Sierra Oaks Drive to
the City in fee.
No one in the audience desired to be heard.
The Planning Director stated the only report was on the Downtown area.
Invitations had been sent out to eight planning consultant firms with
a request that they submit proposals. The matter had been presented
to the City Council and they were to appoint two members of the Council,
together with the City Manager, Planning Director and two members from
the Planning Commission as a committee to consider the proposals. He
felt it was in order to make the appointments at this meeting so thst
the names could be forwarded to the City Manager.
The Chairman then appointed Commissioners Forman and Norton to be
the representatives of the Planning Commission on the said committee.
The Commission approved the 'recommendation-that when the resolution
increasing the parking spaces in the R-3 areas is forwarded to the
City Council that a request be made to adopt an emergency ordinance
so that any contractors considering building units will know immediately
of the increase in parking space. It was felt that this would be a
beneficial move and remove many uncertainties now existing.
There being no further business to come before the Commission the
meeting adjourned at 11:17 P.M.
~~~~
ACTING SECRETARY
May 22, 1962
Page Sixteen