HomeMy WebLinkAboutSEPTEMBER 25, 1962
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PLANNING COMMISSION, ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA
REGULAR MEETING
September 25, 1962
The Planning Commission ,af the City of Arcadia, California, met in regular
session on September 25, 1962, at 8:00 o'c1oc;, P.M., in the Council Chamber
of the City Hall, with Chairman Forman presiding.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
Vice Chairman Ferguson led in the pledge of allegiance to the flag.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Commissioners Ferguson, Forman, Golisch, Kuyper, Norton
and Parker.
ABSENT: Commissioner Michler
OTHERS PRESENT: Cauncilman Jesse Balser
City Attorney James A. Nicklin
Planning Director Williom Phelps
City Planner Ernest Mayer, Jr., and
Assistont City Engineer Frank Forbes
MINUTES
The minutes of the meeting held September II, 1962 were opproved as written
and mailed.
PU8L1C The Chairman opened the public heoring and coiled for the staff report.
HEARING INTRODUCTION:
NURSERY SCHOOLS On August 14, 1962 the Commission determined that the item "Commercial Schools"
listed as 0 permitted use in Zone C-2 did not include nursery schools. This some
determination was olso made by the City Council several weei<s later.
By these actions it wos officially decided that nursery schools are not a listed
permissible use in any zoning district in the City of Arcadia.
At the time the Commission considered this question they also decided to hold
public hearings ta determine if nursery schools should be classified in the Zoning
Ordinance as a "Special Use".
If this action were taken nursery schools VI:) uld be permitted in the City provided
the appl ication for a special use permit was approved by the Commission.
The procedures for filing and processing a special use permit opplication ore
identical to those for a varionce, i.e., fee of $2~.00, public hearing by the
Commission, appeal rights to the Council, etc.
Conditions of approval may be imposed on a special use permit in the same monner
as they are placed on a variance.
This report reviews the general characteristics of the existing nursery schools
presently in the city, and the extent of the control exercised by the State. From
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this data and other still to be received some bosic stondards can be identified which
could be incorporated os a part of the ordinance of approved as a policy which the
Commission would apply in considering future nursery school applications. In either
case the development of minimum standards would not preclude adding further con-
ditions of approval as specific special use applications are considered by the
Commission.
GENERAL CHARACTE RISTICS
There ore four nursery schools now in operotion in the City. They are locoted at
1625 South Second Ave; 530 Las Tunas Drive, 1111 Okobojii and 1511 South Tenth
Avenue.
The nursery sch'ool at 1111 Okoboj ii is in Zone R-3. The others are in Zone R-I.
Two are non-conforming uses and two are permitted by variances.
The lot size of the existing facilities range from 69{)0 sq. ft. to 26,700 sq. ft. with
the average being about 17,000 sq. ft. All have been in operation for ten yeors
or more. The Arcadio Cooperative Nursery is the only non-profit organizotion.
The ages of the children are from two to six years.
STATE CONTROL
Nursery schools are controlled by the State of California Department of Social Wel-,
fare administers a more definitive set of regulations to regulate nursery school
operations. These regulotions ore concerned with the management of the facility,
the heolth and sofety of the children and prescribe minimum space standords for
the indoor and outdoor a4tiv i ties of the ch i Idren.
Minimum Space Stondords
State Regulations
75 sq. ft. of outdoor play area per child
35 sq. ft. of indoor play space per child
The space standards do not spec ify where these areas shou Id be located on the lot
but rather specify standards ta be applied once the areas are selected. For exomple,
it is possible to have front yard spoce qualify for play area provided it is adequately
fenced, etc.
From a review of the general characteristics of nursery schools and the state regu-
lations regulating their activities it seems apparent that some local controls ore
necessary to insure:
I. The proper location of these facilities in rel~tion to the area in which
they may propose to locate
2. The proper location of the activity areas in the site, such as play areas,
parking areas, etc.
3. The proper relationship of the intensity of the land proposed to be used
to the intensity permitted in the same area.
If the Commission agrees with these objectives it may either continue the public
hearing thereby permitting the stoff more time to develop specific standards, or it
may choose to close the publ ic hearing and render a decision. If the latter course
of action is selected the Commission may still desire the staff to continue the study
ond to prepare some standards for nursery schools which could be approved later as
a policy of the Commission.
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In either event the staff proposes to work closely with the present nursery school
operators to become more familiar with the operational characteristics of nursery
schools.
COMMUNICA TI ONS
A communication was received from Mrs. Elizabeth Schmitz, Choirman, Variance
Committee, Arcadia Porent Participation Nursery School, 5639 Garypark, Arcadio,
California:
"The variance committee of this nursery school has been following with interest
the actions of the planning department and commission concerning nursery school
locations.
We hope that when a decision is made about special use permits and variances,
you will choose the course that gives the city the greatest control over the location
of nursery schools.
It is essential, we feel, that the control exercised must not only be over the
ini~jal location of 0 school, but must be a continued looking at and working
with the school throughout the years.
We say this because it is our bel ief that had we had more control over our school
(say several five year variances rather than a fifteen), we would not have been
in the spot we were in last summer.
Financially speoking, it is hard to continue operation with the knowledge thot
in a short time (five years) a nursery school must relocate. This is why we feel
that whatever means of control you adopt, there must be a provision for close
working together at all times between nursery schools ond city. If we schools
are always aware of what specific standards are expected of us by the city,
and always live up to them, there will be small danger of frequent moves.
I hope to communicote with you on this matter further. Either I or another
representotil'e will ottend this Tuesday's meeting, should you desire to question
us ot that time. "
PROPONENTS
Mrs. Elizabeth Schmitz, 5639 Garypark, Arcadia, California, spoke in favor of
the proposed amendment.
OPPONENTS
None
The members of the Commission and the stoff discussed the following items which
appeared to be appropriate standards for nursery schools.
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I. Play areas shauld be delineated an the plot plan.
2. Proof of opproval from the Department of Sociol Welfare,
including the number of children permitted shall be
submitted with the application.
3. Play areas shall be confined to the rear portion of the lot.
4. The site shall be fenced with a solid fence.
5. A buffer area of some sort shall be del ineated on the map, for
planting to :Sicreen the noise from surrounding properties.
6. Adequate loading and off street parking focilities should be
provided.
7. Buildings shall comply with fire zone regulations that apply
to the area.
a. Buildings shall comply with the Arcadia Building Code.
9. Front y,ords to comply with the regulations of the district in
which the school is located.
10. Approval from the Department of Social Welfare verifying the
qualifications of the personnel operating the school shall
be submitted.
11. Length of the special use permits should be limited to 0 stoted
number of years.
12. The installation of sidewalks may be required.
13. The size and type of sign for advertising the school should be
determ ined.
14. The number of children enrolled should be limited.
MOTION
Moved by Commissioner Golisch, seconded by Commissioner Norton, and
unanimously carried, that the publ ic hearing on the nursery schools be continued
until the regular meeting of November 13, and that the Planning Deportment
present specific standards to be worked oUtin conjunction with representatives of
the nursery school people ond the other related departments af the City.
TRACT NO.
27591
This tract is located on the northerly end of Greenfield Ave. about ISO ft. south
of Longden Ave. containing 6 lots.
COMMUNICATIONS
A communication was received from the Greenfield Al(enue property owners
association to the effect that some years ago all but two of the property owners
of Greenfield Avenue, narth of Live Oak Ave to the circle at 2225 and 2226
Greenfield Ave. orgonized to have Greenfield Ave. extend to Longden Ave. At
that time the property owners bought their property because of and hoped to
maintain a quiet, secluded atmosphere on this street. Many property owners had
been contocted by several residents who had been asked to sign 0 petition in
favor of the subdivision using the back part of lots facing on Longden Avenue.
Many people on Greenfield Avenue were in favor of this proposal. The ossociotion
had made a spot canvass of property owners and each c,ase they were opposed to
this proposal. They requested that this letter be made a part of the meeting and if
the matter were continued they would be present at the next meeting and would
present a statement signed by approximately 90% of the property owners of this
street opposing such a development. The purpose of the letter was to offset some
of the statements made by the canvassers in the area.
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STAFF REPORT
The subject ,tract is located at the north end of Greenfield Avenue, 0 street
approximately 1900 feet in length which now terminates in a cul-de-sac. The
subject':tract is in Zone R-l and proposes to develop six single-family lots.
Four of the six lots exceed the 7500 sq. ft. minimum but the remaining two
appear to be below the R-l minimum by approximately 300 sq. ft. each.
The proposed tract would create an awkward double cul-de-soc at the end
of a street which already exceeds the recommended maximum cul-de-sac
length by 1400 feet. Excessively long dead end streets are costly in the sense
that they create problems in providing such services necessory to the area
as water, maintenance, police protection, fire protection and rubbish collection.
The Planning Departmeni, in order to provide for an efficient use of the subject
land, would like to see it developed in a manner which would eliminate a portion
of the rear of the 300 feet deep lots fronting on Longden Avenue. The submit.ted ,
tract, however, does not represent an occeptable solution from a planning
standpoint and the staff recommends that the tract map not be approved.
The following alternate solutions are recommended as more suitable developments.
The first and most appropriate solution would extend Greenfield Avenue through
to Lee Avenue. This solution would allow egress from the excessively long dead
end street now existing and chonnel traffic into 0 similar local residential street.
The second solution recommended, would carry Greenfield Avenue through to
Longden, a solution less desirable but still acceptable.
'If, however, approval of the tract as submitted is considered, the stoff recom-
mends thot the following conditions be made a part of that approvol:
1. All lots shall have a minimum oreo of 7500 sq. ft.
2. Remove all structures and building within or across the tract boundary.
3. Install all standard street improvements required by the subdivision
ordinance. Improvements, grades, grading and drainage
shall be to the satisfaction of the Director of Public Works,
Curbs and paving on Greenfield turn-oround sholl be reol igned
and the parkways regraded and landscaped.
4. All necessary easements shall be provided to provide rear line
utilities.
5. The City shall accept the future street offer on Lots 3 ond 4, Tract
No. 16947 at the time of approval of the final map.
6. Planting and sidwalk easements shall be provided an any portion
of the street having less than 12 feet of parkway.
7. The water line shall be ,extended to, ond connected with, the
water line in Longden Avenue at ,the expense of the
Subdivider, and a 10 foot easement dedicated to the City.
The location and construction shall be to the sotisfaction
of the Water Superintendent.
8. Remove all trees from street right of way.
9. After completion of 011 improvements, portions of existing
cul.-de-sac on Greenfield shall be vacated.
10. A covenont in an appraved form to designate exterior boundary
as rear lot line.
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11. The following fees are required:
Street tree installation
Street sign installotion
Street light installation
Recreatian fee
$-1-36.00
70.00
230.00
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Total
$586.00
The Planning Director stated that this matter had been before the Commission
in some form or another for the post several months. The lot spl it of Pat B.
Brown was the first, the decision of the Commission was appeoled to the Council.
Subsequently, the Porks Realty requested a division of the lots facing on Lee Ave.
This was denied to provide for the opening of Greenfield. This wos also appealed
and subsequently approved by the City Council. The possibility of getting an
outlet for Greenfield Avenue is made practically impossible, or at least more
expensive. The Greenfield Residents Association are protesting the opening
of the street and if there is not other solution' this troct could be opproved as
submitted. Greenfield Avenue has existed for many years ond the few lots
added would not increase the difficulties of services of fire and police
fac iI i ti es.
Commissioner Norton stated some of the lots shown are substandard and the
residents involved hove a legitimate set af circumstances ond if was unfortunate
that the recommendation of the Commission applied to the lot split were not
upheld and as Chairman of the Subdivision Committee this tract is totally
unacceptable in its present layout.
Mr. O. Knutsen, the developer, spoke to the Commission stating that since
the approval of the lot split made it economically unfeasible to go out to Lee
Avenue. If this were the manner of development then the lot split 'should not
have been granted. He could see no other way of developing the rear of the
lots facing on Longden as many attempts had been made and financially unsound
to go out through Longden with but six lots. The lots fronting on Lee Avenue
are now much more expensive than they were before the lot split was granted.
Mr. Knutsen felt that the only other development for the deep lots would be
to permit additional dwellings on the rear. He had talked with the Parks
Investment Co. and the lots were for sole but not for the purpose of extending
the street.
Mr. Dale Castleton, 116 Longden Avenue, stated that developers had appraached
the property owners by,the Park Investment Co. but their offer wos much lower
than the fair, market value of the property. The present subdivider offered the
six property owners a fair market value for the land and each were convinced
that to sell the rear portion of their lots wos to the best interest of Arcadia.
He felt that the tentative map should b~: approved as it is the anly way this
property can be developed and would 'be a desirable asset for the City of
Arcadia.
MOTION
Moved by Commissioner Norton, seconded by Commissioner Golisch, and
unanimously carried that, tentative Tract Map No. 27591 consisting of 6 lots
on the northerly end of Greenfield Avenue be recommended for denial.
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Mr. Joseph Rognstad, builder and real estate broker, 2636 South Baldwin Ave.
requested permission to be heard. There was quite 0 delimena on this matter
he felt, to allow Greenfield Ave. to extend to its present length ond it seems
that the property owners on Greenfield Ave. unanimously I ike dead-end streets.
He sensed 0 contradiction os to the desires of the people on Greenfield and
the ordinance os it is now written ond the Commission's attitude on dead-end
streets. He quoted on instance where 0 graduating closs of University of
Colifornia developed 0 subdivision and the entire tract was cui, -de-sac streets,
with streets os long os Greenfield Ave. He felt that some development should
be mode os in his experience he hod found thot people liked dead-end streets.
He knew these streets could become too long, but he felt the attitude of the
property owners supported th is development.
LOT SPLIT
NO. 62-24
Lot Split No. L-62-24, Rowe B. St. Clair, 1304 South Santo Anita Avenue was
considered by the Planning Commission.
The Stoff report was presented. If approved the following conditions should, be
imposed:
I. FiI e 0 final mop
2. Provide sewer lateral to Porcel 2
3. Pay 0 recreation fee of $25.00
4. Provide woter services to comply with the Uniform Plumbing Code
5. Remove existing drivewoy and replace curb of Santo Anito Ave;
new access to be provided from LeRoy Avenue on the eost
side of new lot; permit 0 10 ft. side yard on Sonta Anita Ave.
The representotive of the appl icant presented 0 revised plot plan showing 0 tentative
location of 0 house to be constructed on the new lot if opproved, which would
allow 0 25 ft. setback on Santo Anita Ave. instead of the 10 ft. os shown on the
original mop.
The Planning Deportment recommended that the application be denied. The split
would create 0 key lot to the north and would make the existing residence non-
conforming.
Wl,i1e the revised plot plan wos on improvement over the original plan, it was
the consensus of opinion that no decision should be mode on any lot splits on the
east side of Santo Anita Avenue until such time os 0 study could be mode of the
area from Christina Street south to Le Roy Avenue os to the proper development
of the area.
MOTION
Moved by Commissioner Norton, seconded by Commissioner Parker, and unanimously
carried that Lot Split No. 62-24 be denied.
REPORTS
The Planning Director presented 0 work schedule for the Planning Department
for the purpose of oscertaining the projects now under study and any additional
matters to be programmed.
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LEAVE OF
ABSENCE
ADJOURNMENT
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The Commission directed a letter of good wishes to Commissioner Michler wha
is to underga surgery.
Commissioner Michler was granted a sixt)-<lay leave of absence by unanimous
consent of the Commission.
No further business to,come before the Commission the meeting adjourned at
9.40 P.M.
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