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PLANNING COMMISSION, ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA
REGULAR MEETING
December II, 1962
The Planning Commission of the City of Arcodia, C"lifornia, met in regular session
on December 1I,.1962,;n the Council Chamber, City Hall, at 8:00 o'clock P.M.,
with Chairman Forman, presiding.
:The Chairmon led in the pledge of allegiance.
PRESENT: Commissioners Ferguson, Golis,ch" Kuyper, Parker and Forman
ABSENT:
Commissioners Michler and Norton
OTHERS PRESENT:
Councilmen Balser, Phillips, Reibold and Turner,
City Manager Harold K. Schone
Administrative Assistont David Brown
City Attorney James A. Nicklin
Director of Public Works Chorles E. Lortz
Assistant City Engineer Frank Forbes
Plonning Director William Phelps
Planning Technician Ernest Moyer, Jr.
Mr. George Gatter, Project Planner
Mr. Patrick Gaffney, Principal Planner, and
Mr. Donald Gutoff, Director of Planning,
Los Angeles office of Wilsey, Hom and Blair.
The minutes of the meeting of November 27, 1962 were approved as written
and mailed.
Messrs Gatter, Gutoff and Gaffney, of Wilsey, Ham and Blair were present to
discuss 0 progress report on the Centrol Downtown orea.
Mr. Gatter, Vice President, in chorge of Planning for the firm of Wilsey, Ham
and Blair, wos introduced by the Chairman.
Mr. Gatter introduced Mr. Donald Gutoff, Director of Planning in the Los Angeles
office, who is directing the program for the firm.
Mr. GutoH stated he would like to bring the Commission up to date on the bosis
of the downtown study. The maps on the wall represent for the most part inventories
of the existing situation. The following is a tronscript of his report.
"I think you will recall the City of Arcodia engoged the firm of Wilsey, Ham and
Blair to prepare a Downtown plan for the City in July of this year. Some specific
objectives stoted in the ogreement relating to the study is quoted os follows:
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'I. Arcadia is nated thraughout the state as a City of distinctive homes. Any plan
for the Downtown orea must supplement and complement this theme.
2. The Downtown plan must, in addition to complementing the residential aspect
of the entire city, supplement and complement the other commerciol oreas
of the city.
3. Problems of the areo ore to be identified ond solutions thereto put on 0 relotive
priority bosis.
4. The desirable effects of the proposed Foothill Freeway ore to be exploited to its
fullest potentiol ond its undesirable effects ore to be minimized by the develop-
ment of this pion. Thesestoted objectives ond obligotions were used os 0 guide
line in the development of 011 recommendotions we hove prepared and will
prepare. '
One of the purposes of this meeting in this preliminary stoge of the creotion of such
a pion is to expose to you, Members of the Planning Commission, our thinking to
date and solicit from you your opinions from your experience and knowledge 'Pf
the City of Arcadia to advise us if you think we ore on the right track that we con
pursue further to further supplement the report we ore obout to give.
We would oppreciate any comments from the Commission to help us in determining
if we ore on the right track and if this is the generol approach that the City of
Arcadio wonts. I would welcome you to interrupt this presentation at any time
to ask questions relative to your comments that may help in the formulation of
the plans.
I think in terms of this presentation it would be helpful to begin at the end ond tell
you our conclusions to date so that we moy then follow through the presentotion
on eoch of the mops with our solutions or prel iminory solutions in mind.
A list of the findings we hove made regording this preliminary plan is os follows:
1. The area is not functioning as a true downtown center, the situotion in Down-
town Arcadia is bod ond the trends ore even worse.
2. It is particularly timely now to examine Downtown in view of the Foothill
Freeway proposal.
3. The aroposed Foothill Freeway does not represent 0 threat to the Downtown
orea but conversely with effort con be turned into a real asset inasmuch as
it con considerably divert through traffic from Huntington and other local
streets and free these streets for shopping troffic. It conceivably could assist
o revitalized and vioble 'Downtown by offering reody access to people outside
the immediate drawing orea to take advantage of the facilities thot could
and we hope will be provided here.
4. It is desirable to group retail uses to foster comporative shopping rather than
ribboning out along the thoroughfores.
5. There ore potential uses in this area other than retail business that con be
accommodated as research development, Ii ght industriol plonts thot ore 0 new
trend in the area, offices, governmental uses, apartments and the like.
6. We feel that it is a worthwhile objective to develop a pion that recognizes
and preserves as many of the substantiol buildings as possible within this orea.
7. Our plan envisions that a major emphasis in merchondising be given to attract
the quolity shops that ore relotively smoll in scope, shops that recognize the
substantial purchosing power thot exists in Arcadia.
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As part of this concept, Mr. Chairman, we have sl ides taken of other areos whereby
older buildings, through cooperotion ond design hove achieved 0 certoin degree of
success in terms of merchordising. These slides happen to be in the San Froncisco
Bay area and I think it would be helpful to view these in view of the context of our
report.
Hoving the findings we have made in mind, the first mop in the presentotion shows
the existing land use within the study area. The study area is outlined in the dark
I ine on the overlay. With in this areo the yellow represents residential; the orange
multiple fomily; the pink being commercia; and is referred to os retoil trode service;
the darker red being wholesale;' brown is offices; groy is parking; the other shade
of brown being community services, institutianol, such as the junior h.igh school;
the green - recreations; the blue represents what is termed as land demonding indus-
trial and the lighter blue is other industrial classificotions. The purple is tronspor-
tation, with the existing railrood; the dorker green is open lond ond is presently
used as ogriculture.
A brief breakdown of the uses of land in the study orea indicates that 38% of it
is used for residential purposes; 22% for commerciol purposes; 9% for industrial
purposes; and 9% for community facilities; 9% of the land is vacant; and 13% is in
street right of way.
A map was exhibited representing the existing zoning map. The zoning of the City
with the same basic color scheme os used in the land use coverage wos shown. The
cross hatched items representing an overlay "0" for an outomobile parking zone.
The green being publ ic open space. As can be seen the zoning pottern and the
zoning area of commercial zoning is that area bounded by Huntington Drive, Santa
Clara ond First Avenues.
The value of the maps are in the patterns they form and not necessarily any specific
spots of information. If a general ideo of pattern could be determined with the
colored keys they would hav.e served their purpose.
This map is geared to floor space and parking which were considered two relative
subject matters and were to be combined on one mop. The colored pottern varies
from the other two maps presented. The yellow in this case represents generol
merchandise; the darker yellow is termed "convenience goods". The orange
"other retail"; the brown "offices"; the green "selected services"; the blue "1'101'1-
retoil"; in the study area and you can get a preponderance of that pattern. The
white, vacant and the groy - parking. A brief summory of the situotion you find
on this map is that in this area about 1/8th of the central business district uses are
devoted to shopping goods; about 7/8ths is devoted to convenience goods and other
retail uses. This represents a strong imbalance in the distribution of retoil spoce.
For example, as 0 relative base, the ratio should be 2j3rds of shopping goods to
1/3rd of convenience goods.
About 6% of the commercial space in this area is vacant or about 75,000 sq. ft.
Looking at the parking ratio we can see that trouble. in. the Downtown area is not
necessarily related to off-street parking. You have a I to I parking ratio in your
Downtown areo.
This map representlJ a tabulation of the conditions of the buildings within the area,
which indicates which direction the planning decisions should take. In this area the
yellow represents buildings that are in excellent condition; the lighter brown
indicates existing buildings that are in good condition; darker brown, with 0 volue
of fair; the oronge is given poor condition; and the dark oronge is considered beyond
l!lconomicol repair.
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A summory of the situotion is defined in this map is that the non-residential buildings
within the planning area, 4% are in excellent condition; 36% are in good shape;
25% in fair shape; 25% paor shope; 9% considered beyond economicol repair.
The next map represents the type and height of non-residential buildings. The blue
represents masonry concrete or steel buildings; the brown, wood-frame structure;
orange, sheet metol structures; and thase with a cross-hotch over them represents
those buildings two stories high or more. Very briefly, the map represents a pre-
panderance of masonry concrete and steel buildings, the majority from 95% of the
buildings within this area are one story with the remainder in two stories or more.
This map indicates a region that is considered the retail trade area, the primory re-
tail area is the dark blue and the secondary area and the lighter blue. The trade
areas ore broken down into segments that our economic reparts analyzed mare
thoroughly. The orange areo represents in the relative size of the competing
commercial oreas far the purchasing power within the area that the Arcadia Downtown
can and should draw its business from. These plans represent the preliminory thinking
ot the present time as ta the recommended opproach to the problems in the Downtawn
area. The study area is represented by all of those areas in color. Our general
appraoch in this recommendation is that the town center talked obout earlier being
0' concentration of comparotive shopping areas, being intimate and still comporative
shopping of high qual ity type locoted within the triongle bounded by Santa Anita
Ave., Huntington and the railroad tracks, This is the key to the core area for
future retail center. We see 0 lorge portion of the Downtown area being devoted
to other than commerciol uses ond particularly in this recommendation to research
and development uses normolly classified as a special industrial or a light industrial
use.
There is a porticulcir advantage that Arcadia hos in terms of competition for the
research and development uses. The very existence of the university around here,
Cal Tech, in particular, with their professions in Math ond Physics, is a real asset
to the capitalized time. The history in the immediate area is that it is only the
question of availability of land that in the most part would assure success in attract-
ing these very high quality uses dealing with science and light industry, dealing
with relotively high skilled, high paid employees and things we generally consider
to be real assets to most communities.
We feel that a large part of this area has 'the potential of attrocting very desirable
pieces of lond in that area bordered between the roil road tracks and the proposed
Foothill Freeway. This would involve 0 greot effort toa large part in redeveloping
o lot af the existing uses; however, the land use map indicates thot there is large
acreage within this area devoted to less productive industrial uses and quite a bit
of publicly-owned property that could be devoted to uses that are more attractive
and rewarding for the community. This is a major element in our recommendation.
We see the town center as bordered on two sides; 1st, on the door of the triongle
between the rciilrood tracks and Santa Anita; at the extension of Santa Clara St.
as being occupied by a convenient center, os well os the areo to the south between
First and Second Avenues, Huntington Drive and the block to the south. Part of
this' concept is to serve the convenience goods to the residents that immediately
abut this area as well os to the residents to the north allowing a place for the grocery
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shopping, the drug shopping, convenience goods that would not require a housewife
to dress up and put on hat and gloves that we would I ike to see the town center
encourage. This is the cancept to separate the canvenience goods from the major
quality retail center that is usually drawn in shopping center designs.
We see a large bulk of the area that is presently zoned for multiple family residences
intensiil,y developed. We see the existing schools existing as they are with a possible
extension of the Junior High School. There is one particular key area bordered by
Bonita, First, Huntington and Santa Anita tha't hos in its relationship to the county
park, the town center, and to circulation, a potential that exceeds its present
uses in terms of single-family uses and some ribbon commercial along Huntington.
We see there may be some special use of high intensity that could take advantage
of this location but hove not thoroughly detailed our recommendotions we think
something like 0 hotel, coceivably a hospitol, governmental buildings, or public
buildings may be best located in this vicinity.
Part of the pion or 0 big part of itis based on the proposal for an extension of
Huntington Drive to the abandoned railroad right of way to end at Sonta Anita Ave.
This would offer, when we get into the town center proposal, good access as well as
o relief to conjestion on the corner of Son to Anita and Huntington which we see os
o key orea in the plan. To further demonstrate, we feel a continuation of the
multiple-family residential areo, the pattern that exists here now being extended
into the U.S. Forest Service land.
The triangle locoted between Huntington, Santa Anita and the rear extension of
Santo Claro we see as a potential area by reason of access in thot location as 0
potential use for hotel ond commercial amus~ment center.
As you can see by deFining the town center the plan proposes the closing off of
First Avenue between Huntington ond the railroad track as 0 through street. This
would be best explained when we discuss the town center alternates as shown on
this plan.
The town center, as we envision it, is the key to the success of the Downtown
area and is presented here in three alternate designs. The third design represents
our recommended priority. We feel that this would be the best approach to the
development of this area. I will attempt to describe it os briefly as possible. What
it proposes is 0 continuation of First Ave. north of Huntington to meet short of the
railroad tracks and extend into the extension of Sonto Claro. This would be full
street right of woy with special landscaping and would serve as vehicular access to
the town center rather than a through street. This would thereby close oFf the inter-
section of First Ave. and the railroad tracks. This proposes that under the uses
suggested here that First Ave. and Santa Clara be extended os an "L" street and
hove its own function and use in terms of research and industrial use. This will be
physically separated trofFic-wise fram the town center.
The plan envisions that mony of the existing shops, particularly those fronting on
Huntington and those on First Ave. continue in existence with, however, a chonge
of entrances with a pedestrian mall ond plaza being located on the interior on the
rear ond emphasis in terms of pedestrian occess and design and rehabi I itotion and
store fronts being emphasized with pedestrian traffic to the rear rather than to the
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traffic an Huntington. Around this nucleous of the existing stores, through the
construction of new buildings the hub of the area indicotes 0 lorge office building
with shopping underneath, a ploza geared to retoi I users, restauronts, publ ic and
semi-public uses. We envision an ort theatre, or any other culturol facilities
that the community may provide in terms of theatres, auditoriums, multi-purpose
facilities which should be located within this town center orea.
The groy indicates porking oreas. This pion ottempts insofar os is possible to
seporate the outomobile pattern and to the parking from the pedestrian pattern
which is shown in yellow. The pedestrialJ pattern crosses the street only once
here ond that is between convenience shops and the town center itself. We might
add, the economic onalysis that hus been provided us, the effort of converting
existing shops with their heavy emphasis on convenience goods to a relotively,high
quol ity shopper goods deal ing with such things os women's apparel, furnishings,
interior decorator, and the like, represents 0 very reol effort and a very tough
job to achieve. However, we do feel it is feasible and possible and represents
a potential for this tawn center that is not met by other competing centers and
recognizes the purchosing power of the income of the populotion in the service orea.
In oddition to the cooperotion on the part of property owners and merchants, City
expenditure would aid in terms of street construction, any publ ic buildings to be
located in the town center ond fostering a true downtown center in every sense
of the word. One that is unique and thot has night time os well os day time uses,
such os theaters, restourants and the like; and one, we repeat, in the area that
offers a distinct, unique affect to the Arcadia situation that it is locoted in. I think
this ends the summory, Mr. Chairman, and I would be happy ta onswer any ques-
tions II .
Answer to questions: The c"",,,enience strips can best be reloted by those acquired
in supermarkets, drug stores, hardware and the like. I might omplify on that.
One of the reasons why I stoted initially that the trends were so bad is that the
dominating convenience goods in the existing downtown is not a healthy situation
in that 011 of the competing shops ond centers that exist in the future tend to pro-
vide more convenience gaods for the neighborhood shopper and so they wi II draw
away thedollor rating that is presently attracted to Downtown Arcodia. It is
reosonoble to assume that even the status quo wi II not exist. That ony new
commercial facility in convenience will by reoson of its locotion and the new
scale in size and design of the shopping center would tend to draw dollors away
from this area. That is one of the reasons we suggest strongly the emphosis be
changed from convenience goods to shopper goods. This would have to be done by
cooperation particulorly the property owners ond the merchants in the area. In
order to achieve the desirable effect of this, the zoning ordinance whi ch is
regulatory is. not effective in itself, there may be certoin zone chonges needed.
For one thing, sign control is imperative. You cannot by zoning distinguish
between quolity retail ond lesser quality retoil which hos to be the effort on the
part of the property owners. For example, one of the most difficult things to
ochieve would be a potential tenant in a vacant shop, a beer bar or samething,
would be true cooperation having a landlord refuse a potential tenant in favor of
waiting for somebody who may come olong six months or later when they complement
the stated desires for the area. It is very difficult to achieve. The City can make
some effort in specific design, street right of way, landscaping, in terms of city
money, so to speak, but the prime effort would be on the port of the property
owners ond merchants.
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You could reosonobly, by zoning, prohibit, for exomple, outomobile oriented
uses os being incompatible with the plan, service stations, or even new cor sales
in view of the intimacy of the pedestrian oriented center. But I doubt very much
if zoning laws could restrict between shopping and convenience goods. There
would have to be some mixture but the ratio would have to be char)ged. Serious
doubts that this could be done. It w9uld be a legal question.
If First Avenue is closed there wOl:ld be traffic projections which were not covered.
This plan is projecting the troffic volumes to the year 1980 just by closing First
Ave. Sonta Anito with the freeway interechclnge as proposed, will not have the
capacity to handle the projected troffic. This' plan suggests one of two olternates
as through streets to handle this anticipated volume, either Second Ave, or Fifth
Avenue. This would supplement the troffic volumes thot will be generoted through-
out this area. We have not ot this time determined which would be preferoble
because both of these routes transcend to area of study and we are not thot familiar
with the uses and the neighborhood patterns in theareo to the south and we are:oQt
prepored to recommend at this time qs we will consult with you on that further. ,.;
There is onother possibil ity thot will help relieve the anticipated traffic generotion
and that is the possibility of an interchange for the proposed Foothill Freeway at
Baldwin Ave. which moy take an ossigned amount of anticipated troffic and relieve
the need for onother north-south street.
The access to the town center would be from First Avenue and from Santo Clara
as well as from Santa Anito ond ond Huntington itself.
We call the shops "major shops" rather than department stores because of trying
to stress 0 quality use, i.e., such things as Grants, or Woolworth's ortsomething
like thot, even though it is new investment for the Downtown, it does not foster
the intent of this plan. In addition there is a network that abuts ond porOllels
the railrood and leaks back to the Huntington area. If Second Ave. is to be
extended there is a possibility of another access from Second Ave. or presently
from Second Ave. and a right turn into the periphery street.
All af the stores in the rear have access to the parking lots and perhaps delivery
times could be scheduled so as to not conflict with the pedestrian activity within.
the orea. Usually, there are early morning del iveries before the stores open.
The whole plan is to have a distinct, and unique oriented scale of small shops
that would appeal to the women. The south side of Huntington Drive, by the year
1980, this areo between First Ave. and Second Ave. on the south side of Hunting-
ton, would change its emphaSis to a conveniient center. There is presently 0
market, with convenient access and this should be changed to a convenience
center. This should be made\ as convenient and as attractive as possible but it
would be comparable to ony supermarket complex for convenience goods. The
area between First and Santa Anita will be pursued further with 0 special high
intensity use. Although we propose recognizing existing substantial buildings
on the area south of Huntington, because of the physicol separotion by Huntington
o mojor through street, we feel thot we connot reasonably be considered part of
the type of center we propose and ore looking for uses that may be oppropriate to
be in the one orea. This would be a convenience center that has already started
and is very well related to a large populatian and large purchasing power in food
and convenience goods. "
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The Commission stoted they felt they were on the'~ight trock"
From 0 pl,onning viewpoint along, .the pion seems right. There moy be a tremendous
amount df chonge that will occur in this area whether there is a plan for it or not.
The space allocation and the distribution of the space in the particular area seems
workable according to the Planning Director.
Mr. Gutoff stated they had 0 fairly thorough justification of the economics
involved in terms af the obil i ty of the orea to absorb the acreoge of research
and development and this justification exists. There is in terms of mony of these
lond use allocatians which have been prepared and will be presented further as
the study progresses.
Some questions were roised as to the Pomona Mall. This moll differs extensively
fram the pattern envisioned here in terms of the merchondising. Pomono is similar
in that it respects the pedestrian as the one who spends the money. You hove to be
a pedestrian to moke purchases ond moke for a heolthy downtown. However, there
ore mony other foctors. Pomono does not hove the competition for the purchosing
dollar that Arcodio downtown does and the emphosis on quality and semi-quolity
goods rather thon on convenience goods is something that Pomona does not have.
a mall with the same type of bosic convenience goods os outl ined for Pomona
would solve the problem for Arcadia,
In Arcodio the one area calls for a seven story high rise building which is
considered "high rise" in the orea. The only limitation would be the relation
between off street porking and the very dense concentration of office, and retoil
uses. High rise would not be out of line with this plan.
Huntington Drive will still be the barrier between the north and the south even
after the freeway is completed. There are many areas thot have not yet been
pursued. The plonners have looked thoroughlyot the locotion of the proposed
interchanges of the stote with an eye toward whether there ore better locations
ond we don't think so, We think the stote has located them in the right ploce.
Unfortunately, we also feel that the railroad cannot practically be relocated,
We surely wish it could. "
The Chairman stated that the study had fairly well been covered. and osked if
any in the audience desired to ask questions.
Mr. Gutoff stated there was a strong feeling that justification could be made for
an auditorium or cultural center in the planned area. A large part of the success
of the improvements, unfortunately, is in the hands of the City. It must be
popularized so that there is a desire to establish the uses as outlined.
There will be 0 joint meeting of the Central area Landowners Association in
January, at which time another presentation of the Downtown pion will be made.
At that particular point and time it will be developed further so that some of
the questions which seem to be, unanswered will be possibly answered at that time.
The Chairman thanked Mr. Gatter and Don Gutoff for their presentation and those
doing some of the leg work so that this could be presented.
The meeting recessed for five minutes.
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PUBLIC HEARING
SAN GABRIEL
VALLEY WATER
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Public hearing wos held on the application of the San Gobriel Valley Woter Co.
for a special use permit and/or a variance ta dri II and use two water wells,
construct and use a storage tank, corrective use pump building and two storage
sheds on the south side of Clork Street about 400 feet east of Peck Road.
The Planning Director presented maps showing the lacation of the praposed! use,
and the surrounding use of the areas.
A communication was received addressed to the Planning Commission From Keith
Dovidson, 2395 Monte Visto, Pasodeno, California, staied that he was the
owner of property between Peck Road and Myrtle Ave. on the north side of Clark
St. He hod received notice of the request for the varionce before the Commission
and desired to call to the attention of the Commission thot when this property
was zoned ofter annexation numerous architecturol restrictions were ploced on
the area in connection with the zoning. As a mojor property he felt that the
granting of the requested variance would be detrimental to the adjacent property
and therefore requested that the request be denied.
STAFF REPORT:
The San Gabriel Valley Water Compony has Filed an application for a vorionce
and/or special use permit to use the property situoted on the south side of Clark
Street about 400 feet eost of Peck Rood for the fallowing purposes:
J. The dr; II ing of two (2) water wells
2. The erection of a ground level, welded steel water storage tank
eighty-eight feet in diameter by forty feet in height with a
capacity of opproximotely 1,819,892 gollons.
3. The erection of one concrete block booster pump building sixteen Feet
by thirty-six feet.
4. The erection of two, ten by ten feet corrugated metal turbine pump
buildings and the installation of pumps and appurtenant equipment
therein.
5. To maintain and aperote said wells, tanks, buildings, booster pumps,
turbine pumps ond equipment in connection with the applicants
business of supplying water for domestic, industrial, Fire
protection and other uses os 0 public util ity water corparation.
6. As a part af this applicotion the opplicont also requests a permit, as
provided by Section 6431 of the Arcadia Municipal Code ta drill
two wells on the property.
Section 6431 referred to above in Item Six is not a part of the Zoning Ordinance
but rather a Section of the Arcodia Municipal Code which states:
"6431: PERMIT RECUIRED: No person, either as a principal or ogent shall
drill, bore or sink, ar cause to be drilled, bored, or sunk, any
well for water, oil or other similar substonce within the City,
without first having obtoined a permit From the Council so to do
pursuant to Port 1 of Chapter 3 of this Article. The Council shall
have the power in its discretion to gront or deny such 0 permit."
Permission to drill or not to drill two wells con only be given by the City Council)
However, the Planning Commission moy desire to make a recommendation to the
Council on the above motter thereby fully replying to the application and making
a complete recommendation to the City Council.
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CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
I. It contains five lots each 25 ft. by 133 ft.
2. It has an area of 16,625 sq. ft.
3. It is in Zone M-1-D
4. It is owned by the opplicants
5. It is vocont
CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AREA
I. All the lots in the area are divided into lots 25 ft. by 133 ft.
2. All are in Zone M-l-D
3. Enough of the lots are owned by the some person to make industrial
sites possible
4. Most of the property in the areo is vocant.
RECENT DEVELOPMENT TREND~
1. Two new modern industriol buildings have been constructed on the
west side of Peck Rood opposite McBean Street
2. One of the two buildings is presently occupied by the Moody Rainmaster
sprinkler Co. and the Nees Turf Supply Co. The other building
is still in the construction stage.
3. A new industriol building has been constructed (and is occupied) on
the muthwest corner of Myrtle and Clark Street.
4. Woter moins and fire hydrants have been in; tolled on Clork Street.
OTHER CONSIDERATION
The Wotef Department of the City of Arcodia has submitted 0 report which
should be considered by the Planning Commission in deciding whether or
not to recommend opproval or disapproval of this application. A copy of
th e report is attached.
RECOMMEN DA TI ONS
The Planning Staff has reviewed the opplication, studied the plot plans, ond
visited the orea and recommends that the applicotion not be opproved for the
following reosons:
1. The development of the subject property with sheds, and a water storage
tank would not be in keeping with the applicable architectural
overloy regulations which were developed to encourage ond protect
industrial development in the area.
2. The proposed improvements are not likely to encourage odditional types
of development in the oreo such os the three recently constructed.
3. The comprehensive generol plan for the area would, from a planning
viewpoint, be adversely affected.
However, if the Commission decides to approve the application, the following
conditions of approval are recommended:
1. Clork Street shall be improved, meeting witli the opprovol of the
Director of Public Works,
2. Dedicate five feet for the widening of Clark Street.
3. The location and construction of the proposed transmission system leoding
away from the pumping plant shall be subject to the approval of
the Director of Public Works,
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4. All motors and equipment sholl be enclosed within mosonry buildings.
5. A landscape plan shall be prepared and approved by the Planning
Department before any construction activity is permitted on
the site.
PROPONENTS:
Mr. John E. Skelton, Vice President, of the San Gabriel V<1l1ey Woter Co.
11142 Garvey Ave., EI Monte, Californio, stated the staff related the factLCI
information. The property under question is in Zone M- ) with 0 0 overlay.
However, the requested use is not prov ided under any use set forth in the Code
and, therefore, requires Commission actian. The type of improvement which is
proposed is compatiBle with the choracter of the neighborhood as it exists and os
it is developing and is a distinct improvement to the neighborhood. The improve-
,ments intended to be erected will have a value in excess of $200,000.00. This
a~ea is suitably adapted to water production. Water production land of Southern
California or that suited for that purpose is not found everywhere and water is
a necessity. The improvements would be fenced and adequote screening planting
provided. Other plants have been constructed, not identical, but with the
general characteristics and appearonce. One is on Tyler and Lower Azusa Road,
across the Rio Hondo Wash, This operation is neat in appearancet!rnd well
maintained. Water production plants are a necessity. This use is compatible
with the existing uses of the are.a ond will be an improvement to the neighborhood.
The well would be approximately 1000 feet from the well owned by the City of
Arcadia. The question was roised if this well were permitted would it harm the
well already drilled. Mr. Skelton stated he hod discussed with the engineer
who had had considerable experience in the oreo and that it was his opinion
this would not be affected inasmuch os it is over 1000 feet away.
The Son Gabriel Volley Water Co. serves mostly the area surrounding the City
of EI Monte, as far as Whittier Narrows, La Puente and the City of Industry and
a portion of West Covino. The woter derived from this well would serve oreas
other thon Arcadia. In this particulor area there is a pipe line thot goes up
Cogswef f Rood and one on Peck ot the intersection of Cogswell and Clark. The
Company then serves on orea south and east of that area. If any area in this
periphery is in Arcadio there would be one or two services. A Mutuol woter
Co. serves north of Lower Azuso Road.
The City Attorney asked if they had a franchise with ony City in the San Gabriel
Valley. Mr. Skeltan stated their County fronchise provides within on oreo that
is incorporated within 0 City the benefits through the County under their
franchise then enures or passes to the City and under this franchise they did make
payments of 2% to the City of on amount which would be proportionate to the
facilities that would be within that City. This franchise was about 1957 and
many annexations hove occurred both before ond since this date.
The storage tonk in the area has 411,000 gallons and the one propased would be
approximotely five times larger.
It was stoted that the Department recommendation was that the equipment should
be located within masonry buildings. The booster station would be so located,
however, the turbine pumps for the wells which do not make much noise and would
not be objectionable in the areo they purposely put in metal buildings because
they can be constructed in such a manner that the building just slides off and it
is no.t necessary to pull a pump out of the well. The buildings just slide back
and the pump is removed ,;,nd replaced. This cannot be done with a masonry
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building. It is the practice to place the booster station within such a building
so that would not be objectionable. The tank is entirely above ground to a height
of about 50 ft. This is done because of the maintenance problem. A steel tonk.
must be painted and kept painted, and a submerged tank wou~d create problems.
As the areo builds up new customers are signed up and there is consideroble
undeveloped land in that area. There ore very limited number of desirable sites
for this purpose. This area is in close proximity to the river and it is known
from other sources thot the water is good, and there is limited land as it is
objectionable within residential districts.
OPPOSITION
No one desired to be heard.
The Chairman stated there were reports from the Woter Department, with a past
history of the orea which should be considered a part of the record. Each
Commissioner had been furnished a copy of the reports. Therefore, the Water
Department report of November 29, 1962, over the signature of John A. Grivich
was introduced ond made a part of the records.
Moved by Commissioner Golisch, seconded by Commissioner Kuyper, ond
unanimous I)' corried, thot the public hearing be closed.
Commissioner Golisch stated nothing had been introduced in the public heoring
to show that this was substantiolly necessary and something that was not provided
by some other source. It does look like there are limited sites for woter supply.
From a planning standpoint, Arcadio has Uttle areo developed for industrial
use ond this oreo has been nurtured. Within the last year or two consideroble
effort has been made to develop this area ond bring it to a point where it would
benefit the City. If this is undermined by 0 use not compatible with tlie intended
use, it would deter the future development. He felt this particular area should
be kept os the industriol area and ony development should be compatible. Arcodia
has adequate water supply, and surrounding areos have adequate water suppl ies,
so it would seem that the PJrpose of this intended use is for on extension.
Commissioner Ferguson stated he concurred with these statements and that the
entire area is M-1 with 0 D overlay. He felt that if the orea were to hove 0
40 ft. high tank in the orea, which is higher than most two story buildings,
it would downgrade the entire area os compared with the undustrial buildings
being encouraged there. If it is found thot this use should be in the areo, then
he would prefer that the storage tank be placed underground. He was not in
favor of th is type of development.
The Chairman stated it was necessary to hold the line with the present develop-
ment. The Commission is to pass on the zoning at this time.
Moved by Commissioner Golisch, seconded by Commissioner Ferguson, that
the application of the San Go briel Volley Woter Co. for 0 variance and/or
special use permit to drill and use two woter wells; construct ond use water
storage tonk; to erect and use the pump bu i1ding .and two storage sheds on the
south side of Clark St. obout 400 ft.' east of Peck Rood be denied,
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ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Golisch, Kuyper Porker ond
Forman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Norton and Michler
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PUBLIC
HEARING
(Clork)
Public hearing on the appeol from the decision af the Modification Committee
by Mr. R<.lph Clark to construct a guest house ond a second dwell ing at
1128 South Sixth Avenue was heard.
STAFF REPORT:
The application seeks a modificotion of the R-I lot regulations for the property
known as 1/28 South Sixth Avenue to permit the construction of a second house
containing approximately 1100 sq. ft. ond in addition to permit the construction
of a guest house containing approximately 800 sq. ft.
The applicotion wos considered by the Modification Committee of the Plonn-
ing Commission on November 13, I?~ ond was dienied by unanimous action.
CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
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I. It is an R-I lot
2. It contains 26,169.30 sq. ft.
3. It is improved with an existing 860 sq. ft. house located on
the front portion of the lot
4. The rear portion of the lot has been subdivided since
June 2, 1949.
CHARACTERISTRICS OF THE AREA
I. None of the twenty-one lots fronting on the eost side of South Sixth
Avenue of which the-subject property is one, are improved with
two or more houses.
2. The recently subdivided properties wh ich were taken from the rear
of the properties fronting on Six th Avenue now front on Encino
Avenue and are improved with high quality homes in the $35,000
class,
3. Similor subdivisions of equally fine homes hove been developed west
of Sixth Avenue along Fifth Avenue and generally throughout the
immediote neighborhood.
MODifiCATION COMMITTEE ACTION
The Modification Committee considering this request to ol/ow the material
modification of the R-I environmental qualities ond characteristics of this
property not in the best interests of the surrounding neighborhood and Arcadio
in general bnd denied the applicotion.
RECOMMENDA TION
The Planning Department recommends that the decisian of the Modification
Committee be upheld.
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Other courses of action thot the Commission may take in this matter are:
I. Postpone action by continuing the public hearing regarding this
applicotion until the Planning Staff hos had 0 full opportunity
to study and evaluate the requirements governing .R-I districts
in Arcadia.
2. Approve the application.
The Chairman stated that when the Modification Committee heard this motter
there was concern relotive to the guest house as this could well become
another house. A change of ownership could well change this into a livable
house. This lot does not have sufficient area for a third dwelling if it did
quolity in the other conditions. This was the main reason the Modification
Committee denied it. Applications for guest houses are being processed and
while 0 covenant is required, it fairly well is recognized that theenforcement
of such covenants is difficult as it would have to be by a complaint of neigh-
bors. Rather than to start a problem in thot CIlfeo it had been decided thot 0
second house would be occeptoble but that the guest house was not.
PROPONENTS
Mr. Ralph Clark, 1128 S. Sixth Ave. proposed the development. There were
$35,000 homes in the areo os well as $30,000 to $60,000 homes. He proposed
to construct a home in the rear with a guest house ond play room. This would
improve the praperty in value, ond in keeping with the motto "City of Pride".
This would make the property compatible with other properties in the oreo.
They had a similar arrangement in EI Monte and desired ta live in Arcadia.
No kitchen was proposed in the guest house.
Gene Dunquist, a brother-in-law of Mr. Clark, and a builder stated that the
house now on the street is a real "eye sore in the areo. It is planned to
remodel the front house and put about $50,000 in the buildings.
Mr. Larry Nichols, 1129 Encino Ave. stated it wos his understanding through
the real estate saleswoman that there was a limit af two houses on the property.
He now finds there is going to be three. He felt 0 guest house todoy would not
be a guest house to the next owner.
The City Attorney sfated there were certain focts in law thot pertained to
this and to similar situations. When any single-fomily residential lot, if it has
the area and can provide the proper clearances, may have is termed a "guest
house". A guest hause cannot be used as a separate rental unit and can be
used only as a use incidental to the main hause, such os the same failities
being added to the same house. In practice, however, it poses practical
problems, i.. e., the solutions of the use of the so-called "guest House". They
are permitted to live in this but are not allowed to hove kitchen facilities.
However, with the availabil ity of portable equipment, a refrigerator, a
portable stove of ony size, toasters, waffle irons, coffe pots, and so forth,
can be secured. In practice it is a very simple matter to convert"a guest
house into 0 dwelling unit. It does toke police work-to eliminate these.
Further complicating the situation is the fact"that even 'in a single-family
dwell ing, five people not related by..blood or marriage' may' live therein. as a
family or any number of people that are'reloted by blood or marriage may
live there, regardless of quantity. So that if the husband ond wife ore living
in the frant dwelling, then in-laws move into the co-called guest house, they
ore not in violation of the R-I zoning by reason of quantity.
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They are still a family and the enly thing thatweuld mcke it a violatien
weuld be whether er net they had a kitchen in the guest heuse and jf the
heuse were permanently eccupied.
The theugh is that i.t may be better to de away with the separote guest heuse
ane! if a persen needs additienal ro.em to care fer dependents, it sheuld be
in the princIpal d<welling. This would eliminate the probability of creoting
a kitchen ot a later date.
The Cemmissien is werking en mere restrictive regulotiens in the R-I zene and
this mayhave a mere definite bearing.
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OPPONENTS
Mrs. NiChels, 1129 Encine Ave. stoted it was her understanding that the
front house was to be tern down and twe were te be constructed, the reor
house weuld be more than 25 feet from their rear yard. The application was
signed en this basis. New, this plan is different.
MOTION
HEARING
CLOSED
Moved by Cemmissioner Gelisch, secended by Cemmissiener Fergusen, and
unanimeusly carried that the public hearing be clesed.
MOTION
Commissioner Ferguson moved that the Plonning Commission upheld the
decision ef the Modification Committee. Soid metion wos secended by
Comm issioner Parker.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Comm issioners' Ferguson, Gel isch, Kuyper, Pqrker
ond Formon
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Michler ond Norten
TRACT NO.
22314
A publ ic heoring was held to determine the amount of trust to be placed on
property within this tract if the benefited property uses the imprevements within
a twenty year peried.
This tract is located on the west side of Andrews Road ond the extension of
Winnie Woy between Camino Reol ond Nerman Ave., east of EI Monte Avenue.
The Asst. City Engineer exploined the omeunt of trust as reviewed threugh the
amounts submitted by the develeper. There were two parcels which were
preposed fer the use ef the trust procedure. One is the parcel across the end
of the street. There is olso 0 parcel for the one on the south side ef the street.
This half of the street was not included in the eriginol tentative map. The
subdivider later finished the entire streetebtaining a full right of way over the
wpst end of the street. Tw.o portions sheuld be considered for this. One is the
cost ef entrance, i.e., imprevement of Andrews Read up to Winnie Way.
These costs ore included in the letter, $2000.00'for land; $2,023.46 for
improvements, wh ich consists ef curb, 'glItter, pavement and grading, or a
tetal of $4,023.46. The other portien ef the cost included Winnie Way itself.
The cost for the land would be $10,935, imprevements $12,553.55, er o total
of $23,488.55. The recommended amount ,to be autherized for a trust on Lot
8 was computed en the basis of ten possible'lets-being serviced through Andrews
Read. Seven lets within the subdivision, two future lets en the cul-de-soc
and a future lot en the south side of the'streeL . The benefit to Lot 8 wou Id be
2/IO's of the cost of the entrance of $4,023.46 with a 10% overhead to cover
expenses etc. incurred by the developer, recommended amount of trust for
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lot is, is $1,885.17. The recommended omount for lot 9 wos computed based
on a shore of Andrews Road being 1/10 of this entrance cost, plus 1/8 of the
cost of Winnie Woy, 0 full width street. This is a totol of $3,338.42, plus
the 10% averheod figure in the calculations or $3,672.26.
No one desired to speak either in favor of, or ogainst, the estobl ishment of
said trust.
PUBLIC
HEARING
CLOSED
Moved by Commissioner Galisch, seconded by Commissioner Ferguson, and
unanimously carried, that the public hearing be closed.
MOTION
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner Golisch, that
the trust amount as proposed for Tract No. 22314, os outl ined in the report
of the City Engineer be approved.
ROLL CALL: AYES: Commissioners Ferguson. Golif,cb, Kuyper, Porker and
Forman.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Norton ond Michler.
STAFF REPORT ON FINAL MAP
The subject tract consists of seven lots located along the westerly extension of
Winnie Way from Andrews Road.
When the Commission opproved the tentative map it took into considerotion the
July 5, 1962 report of the Subdivision Committee which stated that the Committee
had considered the lot sizes as proposed in relation to the R-O zoning requirements
(100 ft. x f25 ft.)
If the Commission will recall all the lots in the tract os submitted did not meet the
Zone R-O standards. Some were slightly below while others exceed the code
requirements. The Committee felt, however, that the variation in lot sizes did not
materially or adversely affect the suitability of these newly created lots as desir-
able building sites in the R-O zone.
The final map as submitted indicates 0 substantial compliance with the tentative
map ond the Plonning Department recommends thot it be approved subject to the
following conditions:
I. Dedicate a 5 foot planting and sidewalk easement along Andrews Road
for its entire length. '
2. Dedicate lots is and 9 in fee to the City, or execute Trust Agreements
in form approved by the City Attorney
3. Provide all necessary reor line utility eosements
4. Relocote the garoge ot 105 Nor,man Ave. to provide side yard clearonce
No driveway opening-will be allawed in the curb return on
Norman Ave.
5. Remove all trees from the Street right of way..
6. Install all standard street improvements required by. the Subdiv ision
Ordinance. Improvements,_grading, grades and drainage shall
be to the satisfaction of the Director of Public Works.
7. Poy the fallowing fees:
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The final map as submitted indicates a substontial compliance with the
tentative map and the Planning. Department recommends that it be
approved subject to the following conditions:
1. Dedicate a S ft. planting and sidewalk easement along
Andrews Road, its entire length.
2. Dedicote lots 8 and 9 in fee to the City, or execute Trust
Agreements in fo~ opproved by the City Attorney
3. Provide all necessary rear line utility easements.
4. Relocate the gorage ot 105 Norman Avenue to provide side
yard cleorance. No driveway opening will be allowed
in, the curb return on Normon Ave.
5. Remove all trees from the Street right of way.
6. Install all standard street improvements required by the
SuJ:;division Ordinance. Improvements, grading,
grades and drainage shall be to the satisfaction
of the Director of Public Works.
7. Pay the following fees:
Street tree installation
Street light instollotion
Street name sign installation
7 lots recreotion fee @ $25.00
$ 170.00
460.00
3SroO
175.00
TOTAL
840.00
8. City shall dedicote lots IS, 16 and 17 in Troct No. 21341
for street purposes (Portion of Andrews Road).
Attached to the report were the amounts of the trust which were computed
for Lots 8 and 9 by the Department of Publ ic Works
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MOTION
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner Golisch, thot
the finol mop of Tract No. 22314, which is in substantial complionce with
the original tentative mop, be recommended for approval, subject to the
conditions 05 set forth in the stoff report, and to the further condition that
<! trust be placed on lot 8 in the amount of $885.17 and on lot 9 in th,e amount
of $3,672.26.
ROll CAll: AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Golisch, Kuyper, Porker
and Forman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Norton and Michler
TRACT NO.
27619
The Planning Commission considered Tentotive Troct Map. No. 27619, which
is the area west of Sonta Anita Avenue between Longden ond Palm Avenues:
STAFF REPORT
The subject tract is located west of Santa Anito Avenue between Longden Avenue
and Palm Drive in an R-I zone.
The tract design proposed to develop eleven single-family lots 011 of which op-
pear to exceed the minimum requirements ond provides access to these lots by
providing 050 ft. street right of way which widens to 60 ft. at 0 point
approximately 150'ft. north of Polm Drive.
The Planning Department recommends that \his mop be approved fully realizing
that the tract os proposed does not utilize the reors of two lots fronting on
Palm Drive and one lot fronting on Sonta Anito Avenue but subject tothe
following conditions:
I. The 40 ft. wide strip of lond west of lot 8 and the 25 ft. wide
strip of land east of lot 9 sholl be identified 05 lots 12
and 13 respectively.
2. Execute a covenant in 0 form approved by the City Attorney declar.ing
that lots 12 and 13 shall not become building lots'until such time
os they are incorporated in an approved lot split or subdivision.
3. The Birchcroft cul-de-sac sholl be moved 10 ft. south to provide more
depth to lot 5.
4. The frontages on the cul-de-sac at the setback line shall be not
I ess than 60 ft.
5. A revised tentative mop incorporating these chonges:sholl be submitted
and approved prior to the submission'oF'o'finolmap.
6. Install 011 standord street i"1'~ovements required by the subdivision
ordinance. Improvements, grades and drainage sholl-be' to
the satisfaction of the Director of Public Works.
7. Provide all easements required for rear line utilities.
8. Remove all trees ond structures from the street right of way.
9. Remove 011 structures and buildings within or across the tract.boundory.
These removals or relocations shall comply to 011 City Ordinances,.
Codes and regulations, and be done to the sotisfaction of the
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of the Deportment of Public Works.
10. Dedication of street (;/) feet wide, or provide planting and
sidewalk eosements from any portion of right of way
less than (;/) feet in width.
lJ. A covenont in the form approved by the City Attorney sholl
be recorded agreeing that for the purposes of Article IX of
the Arcadia Municipal Code the exterior boundary of said
troct shall constitute the' rear lot lines of Lots 3, 5 and
8.
12. Relocate garage.ot 39 W. Woodruff ond relocate drivewoys 10
clear all curb returns.
13. Dedicate I foot lot at end of Birchcroft Street to control extension
of street.
14. Fees and deposits required:
Street light installation
Street sign installation
Street tree instollotion
Recreation fee (II lots @ $25.00)
$ 920.00
140.00
408.00
275.00
TOTAL
$ 1,743.00
Commissioner Kuyper, of the Subdivision Committee, stated thot in generol
discussions of the cul-de-sac standards there were many "futures" shown on the
map. Birchcroft is proposed os 0 future development - a through street - which
is 10 the City's advantoge. The north extension of the cul-de-sac is corried
o little 100 f:ar.
One of the mat.ters discussed for Commission policy isthot 75 ft. width at the
building lines be maintained and a minimum of 45 feet of width ot the property
line be established. The devela.pment of the reor oreas of lots is aifFicult but
odd shape lots should be avoided. He would prefer to see a little more of the
area shawn adjoining Birchcroft Street, or removing the northerly cul-de-sac
in order to get some parallel lots olong the street. Some key lots are being
created with this proposal. The proper location of houses would be difficult.
The Planning Director stated that the prime concern wos the creation af key
lots in a situotion where there is existing develapment. The creation of key
lots in a totolly new development is to be corrp~nsoted for by the proper 10-
cotion of the house much more sO thon where one house is already developed.
The point was roised that there would sti II be four future lots ond it cou Id not
be ascertained ot this time how the.se ore to be developed.
Commissioner Golisch stoted there would be 17 lots ond 6 of them are future,
or unknown foctors, so far as the ultimote development is concerned. If this
tentative. map were approved with 11 lots and with 6 lots spread out throughout
the oreo this would creote planning problems for the future. There are too .
many unknown factors in this tentative map.
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MOTION
Moved by Commissioner Parker, seconded by Commissioner Ferguson, that
tentative tract Mop No. 27619 be recommended for denial.
ROll CAll: AYES: Commissioners Ferguson, Golisch, Kuyper, Parker ond
Forman.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Norton ond Michler.
PUBLIC
PARTICI-
PATION
No one in the audience desired to be heord.
REPORTS
Commissioner Kuyper. presented the report of the Subdivision Committee
meeting held December 6, 1962, os follows:
liThe Subdivision Committee ot its meeting of December 6, 1962, decided
to recommend to the Commission the adoption of the following stondords os
Commission policy:
1. Increase the radi us of the cu I-de-soc from 40 ft. to 45 ft. in the
cose of 50 ft. street, and 50 ft. in the cose of a 60 ft. street.
2. Maintain 75 ft. of lot width at the building line.
3. Maintoin a minimum of 45 ft. of width at the property line.
On corner lots on arterial streets, such 9S Santo Anita and
and Boldwin Avenues. etc. 0 minimum side yard setback of
the street side sholl be required of 20 ft. with a minimum lot;
width of 85 ft. rather than 75 ft.
5. Require the occurate del ineation of the properties between the two
existing streets.
6. Notify by moil the property owners which will be adversely affected
in the terms of future development if approvol were given to a
tentative map improperly located. This should be a matter
of publ ic pol icy in order to appraise the people who are
directly involveel in the subdivision of land.
The general plan is to prevent the development of property that would landlock
other property. rnat parallel lotti,!g should not be allowed."
The next meeting of the Subdivision Committee will be held at Eaton's on
Thursday, January 3, 1963.
ZONING
Two items hod been discussed by the Zoning Committee. One, involves the
request for chonge of zane on Duorte Rood from R-2 to C-2 with 0 D overloy.
The conclusion wos that in connection with the zoning application requested
that the staff should include in the study orea the property bounded by Santa
Anita Ave. Diamond St. Fifth Ave. and Duorte Rood. This action would
then camplete a plan extending from the Freeway on the north to Duarte Road
on the south. It wos felt that the consideration of two lots could not be
considered without the full stody of the area.surrounding them. These facts
moy not be ovailable for the public hearing 'scheduled for the application
for zone change which has been set for Jonuary 8, 1963.
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The second item discussed was the Rl regulationsopplicoble to second
dwellings on 0 lot. There will be more discussion on this subject. The
Commission should review whether or not a second dwelling regulations
should apply in Zone R-1.
The Southern Californio Plonning Congress will meet ot Disneylond on
Thursday, December 13.
There will be no Planning Commission meeting on December 26, 1962.
The Code states that the Planning Commission shall meet once each month.
The Plonning Director requested some though be given by the Commission to
the idea of meeting once each month on generol plonning motters such as,
varionces, zone chonges, lot splits, subdivisions, etc. and then have the
second meeting as presently scheduled for 0 study and discussian meeting.
It is felt the more time spent on the study portion would require less time
on the actuoJ meetings. Poljcies could be firmed up and the objective
of the Cammission would be more precise.
The meeting adjourned ot 11 :45 P. M.
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WILLIAM PHELPS
Planning Secretary
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